Better for TrumpCare to pass the House or not?

[Binders Keepers]

Gives Trump a "win" but might result in more Democratic gains in 2018, because House Republicans will be tarred by that vote.

[Loki Liesmith]

1. Plan to optimize results for all contingencies

To use a chess analogy, we have them in a fork.

[elfin]

2. Good question. I can't decide

People will suffer no matter the outcome. I suspect he and Ryan and perhaps even McConnell think if they can squeak it through with some minor adjustments that expire after 2020, they will keep their jobs, due to calling it a 'win" and lying about its effects. Plus blaming Obama and Dems for something, anything, to scrape together enough gerrymandered votes to get thru 2018 and set the stage for 2020.

I hope it fails, but not for our political reasons, just that it is cruel.

[truebluegreen]

3. No--take out Ryan now.

There's plenty of time and opportunity to tar the rest--like Drumpf's so-called budget.

[flamingdem]

4. Yes, yes, yes

Toast the smirking freak

[oasis]

5. Trump needs to lose. BIGLY. Court rulings, Comey revelations

and "no" votes on Repeal of Obamacare, one of his pet projects.

So much winning? I don't think so.

[Ms. Toad]

6. People's lives are not political footballs.

Hmmm....tarring Republicans v. saving lives by defeating repeal & replace.

This should not even be a question on a progressive board.

[Binders Keepers]

9. My question assumed it would fail in the Senate.

[Ms. Toad]

10. Not a safe assumption

People also assumed that Trump would lose. We can't risk people's lives on political games. Every vote has to be treated as if it was the only vote on the matter.

[Binders Keepers]

12. Granted. But

my question was merely a hypothetical. And from what I've heard, it's almost certain not to make it past the Senate. But the more I think about it, I think it would be extremely damaging to Trump to have this fail the House. So I hope it never even makes it to the Senate.

[TeamPooka]

7. Holding a floor vote that doesn't pass would be great.

[jmowreader]

8. Fuck long-range strategy at this point. That bill is pure evil.

That thing needs to be stomped flat at the very earliest opportunity, and sent back to where it came from in teeny-tiny bits with a note reading, "never do this again." I don't think we'll be hurt by the GOP putting the thumbscrews to Trump, because there will still be a lot of Republicans who vote for the damn thing and that Aye immediately turns them into a target.

[womanofthehills]

11. Trump really wants it to pass

- that why we don't want it to pass. It will make him look even less in control.