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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:09 PM Mar 2017

Nunes just revealed IC collected info about Trump & Americans associated w/ the Trump transition

Last edited Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:59 PM - Edit history (2)

Whoa. At presser, Nunes just revealed IC collected info about Americans associated w/ the Trump transition team—separate from Russia probe. In addition, he later revealed there are "multiple FISA warrants".







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Nunes just revealed IC collected info about Trump & Americans associated w/ the Trump transition (Original Post) MelissaB Mar 2017 OP
He must be bricking it now. sunonmars Mar 2017 #1
Whitehouse was NOT aware of this MelissaB Mar 2017 #2
Why is he meeting with people under investigation? randome Mar 2017 #4
Because he should be also... 2naSalit Mar 2017 #6
I'm thinking that Nunes isn't thinking this through at all. Which means he's nervous. Which means... randome Mar 2017 #23
Agreed... 2naSalit Mar 2017 #27
Same reason Tillerson is going to Russia rather then meeting with NATO leaders. nt HopeAgain Mar 2017 #57
BS. White House has known since they were subpoenaed and ordered document retention. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #54
I completely agree with the picture you posted. mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2017 #72
What the hell is his point...are we supposed to get all wiggy - eom asiliveandbreathe Mar 2017 #3
who is the IC? us or foreign? commie said FBI KewlKat Mar 2017 #5
Intelligence Community MelissaB Mar 2017 #7
I think the poster meant was it part of the "five eyes" or was it domestic. NWCorona Mar 2017 #52
From Reuters MelissaB Mar 2017 #8
Why is Nunes revealing this? OliverQ Mar 2017 #9
surely this is illegal on an ongoing investigation, he just gave a nod and wink to them all. sunonmars Mar 2017 #17
The Steele dossier said actually Trump wasn't that worried about Russia meadowlander Mar 2017 #21
I've been wondering about China lately too GliderGuider Mar 2017 #50
Yep! Bottom of page 8 - that info has been stuck in my craw since I first read it - all those times Leghorn21 Mar 2017 #70
Is this the "Obama had me wiretapped" bullshit? Nunes better admit that Trump is a TRAITOR anneboleyn Mar 2017 #22
I think Nunes is a traitor too, and is covering his butt OliverQ Mar 2017 #26
Your questions are the same as my questions. LonePirate Mar 2017 #25
No idea why leftynyc Mar 2017 #43
I know, but sadly that's how Trumpers are now spinning it OliverQ Mar 2017 #46
Trump's comm. were picked up b/c he was talking to a foreign agent under surveillance. MelissaB Mar 2017 #49
What do you care what leftynyc Mar 2017 #63
If P(E)OTUS called top Russians -- like members of his inner circle did - he was picked up by MelissaB Mar 2017 #10
Nunes says he is going to the White House in a few minutes to brief the President on the details MelissaB Mar 2017 #11
...and dropping off some empty boxes and bubble wrap for packing I hope... SticksnStones Mar 2017 #12
How is this not obstruction? triron Mar 2017 #16
Yeah, I'm wondering that too. Why the hell would you make public announcements like this? randome Mar 2017 #20
He ABSOLUTELY should not be. Nunes should have his clearances pulled & be thrown off HPSCI now. It's MelissaB Mar 2017 #28
Lock him up! (eom) Ezior Mar 2017 #24
Nunes and Trump. MelissaB Mar 2017 #47
Cannot fathom! Pacifist Patriot Mar 2017 #64
Nunes says Trump communications were caught in "normal incidental collection...normal foreign survei MelissaB Mar 2017 #13
So... mzteaze Mar 2017 #14
From David Corn MelissaB Mar 2017 #15
Time to get their stories straight and talking points Freethinker65 Mar 2017 #18
Nunes is getting classified briefings on FBI investigation of Trump/associates. *NUNES IS TRUMP ASS MelissaB Mar 2017 #19
Asshole Nunes needs to be removed from this committee. He ONLY did this to help Trump folks anneboleyn Mar 2017 #29
Spicer can't even explain this at press conference anneboleyn Mar 2017 #30
He's floundering, like usual. The appearance of Executive interference is clear. randome Mar 2017 #31
Yes. It is outrageous. Spicer is such a moron. His stumbling and then "I don't know" whine made it anneboleyn Mar 2017 #45
I agree! MelissaB Mar 2017 #33
He succeeded lillypaddle Mar 2017 #74
Wait, is this a leak? herding cats Mar 2017 #32
Why is he revealing this before he knows the details? Kablooie Mar 2017 #34
This whole thing smells - need to get stories straight..fire up the shredder.... asiliveandbreathe Mar 2017 #35
Sputnik News has picked up on Devin Nunes' claims. And they're spinning them wildly out of context t MelissaB Mar 2017 #36
They certainly got that ready fast, didn't they? n/t MelissaB Mar 2017 #37
breaking: nunes announces that trump folks were under investigation for more than russian probe spanone Mar 2017 #38
THAT should be the headline! MelissaB Mar 2017 #39
so amazing that trump dismisses anonymous sources except when used by republicans spanone Mar 2017 #40
+1, if not this than what he's doing is illegal it seems uponit7771 Mar 2017 #56
Evidently this presser surprised committee members on both sides of the aisle. MelissaB Mar 2017 #41
Rache Maddow confirms this. MelissaB Mar 2017 #42
Nunes is in deep shit...this is highly illegal and he may be charged with OOJ. sunonmars Mar 2017 #44
I hope they catch him on his walk over and charge him and pull all clearances. MelissaB Mar 2017 #48
Nunes wanted to completely control the info he released without Schiff to contradict him. Amazing. Lanius Mar 2017 #67
David Corn: Nunes didn't make this clear, but if Trump/aides caught on FISA-OKed "incidental collect MelissaB Mar 2017 #51
Dolt45 specifically said Trump Tower was tapped. randome Mar 2017 #53
So Trump and company associate with criminals DeminPennswoods Mar 2017 #55
If true, I'm gonna go out on a limb and put my two cents in and say that this NWCorona Mar 2017 #58
David Corn: Nunes told Ryan, went public, went to WH. Clear signs using political ammo MelissaB Mar 2017 #59
He didn't even consult with members of his own committee! randome Mar 2017 #61
Nunes was on the transition team. Cracklin Charlie Mar 2017 #60
i'd like to be a fly on the wall in Adam Schiff's office spanone Mar 2017 #62
Nunes will NOT say who brought him the info and it looks like legal collection and nothing criminal. MelissaB Mar 2017 #65
Aww, HELL NO!!!!! Sorceress Mar 2017 #66
A chairman of an oversight committee briefing the target of an investigation! Nunes needs to go. Lanius Mar 2017 #68
Don't be so happy about this. I'm sure it's being released to validate Trump's tweets. Kablooie Mar 2017 #69
Isn't giving the TARGET of an investigation... Peachhead22 Mar 2017 #71
David Corn: Hard not to wonder if Nunes is trying to smother Manafort news. MelissaB Mar 2017 #73
We absolutely have to have the house in 2018. Nunes needs to be subpoenaed bronxiteforever Mar 2017 #75
Nunes colbertforpresident Mar 2017 #76
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. Why is he meeting with people under investigation?
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:16 PM
Mar 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

2naSalit

(86,577 posts)
6. Because he should be also...
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:30 PM
Mar 2017

if he isn't already because he's as dirty as they are. And, to tell them that he may want "out" of whatever devil's bargain he agreed to earlier. He knows they are busted and is trying to warn them that they better fire up the cyber-erasers and shredding machines.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
23. I'm thinking that Nunes isn't thinking this through at all. Which means he's nervous. Which means...
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:44 PM
Mar 2017

...what you said.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

2naSalit

(86,577 posts)
27. Agreed...
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:49 PM
Mar 2017

He's not experienced enough to know how to remain calm. He also knows that those prison bars are looking a bit more life-like today. He's young and is now scared.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
54. BS. White House has known since they were subpoenaed and ordered document retention.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 02:46 PM
Mar 2017

Trump's Obama accusation tweets were after the WH got served by the FISA judge or Supreme Court. Unless you want to believe either Trump ordered the document preservation on his own or Comey would reveal an investigation into the WH that the WH didn't already know about.

?1490190000

Nunes is lying or he doesn't know what the WH knows. Since he doesn't know who Roger Stone is ..............

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
52. I think the poster meant was it part of the "five eyes" or was it domestic.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 02:41 PM
Mar 2017

I'd like to know as well. Nunes said it was brought "legally" to him.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
9. Why is Nunes revealing this?
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:33 PM
Mar 2017

And is this bad for us or for Trump? What would they be probing that wasn't related to Russia and did they have a warrant?

meadowlander

(4,395 posts)
21. The Steele dossier said actually Trump wasn't that worried about Russia
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:44 PM
Mar 2017

because it was a distraction from whatever he was up to in China.

Still waiting for the other shoe to drop on that one.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
50. I've been wondering about China lately too
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 02:39 PM
Mar 2017

All those millions and billions of dollars bought something beyond some condos...

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
70. Yep! Bottom of page 8 - that info has been stuck in my craw since I first read it - all those times
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:39 PM
Mar 2017

DFT dissed Chy-na? Whaaa?...seeing more and more blurbs about Kushner's massive deals over there - I don't know nuthin, of course, except wtf is going ON here??

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
26. I think Nunes is a traitor too, and is covering his butt
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:48 PM
Mar 2017

Why would he be rushing over to warn the WH about surveillance legally picked up during the transition, of which Nunes was a part of?

LonePirate

(13,417 posts)
25. Your questions are the same as my questions.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:48 PM
Mar 2017

Nunes has been a complete toady for 45 so my initial thought would be that he is releasing this info in order to prop up 45's wiretapping claims. My next thought is who was being surveiled and why. Then I wonder what significant intel/info was acquired and does it help or hurt 45? Lastly, why is Nunes taking this info to the White House? Nunes is just a committee chairman Congressman. If the IC is unattainable of 45, they certainly won't be cowed by a simple Congressman.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
43. No idea why
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 02:23 PM
Mar 2017

but as to your second question, nothing Nunes says makes degenerate donnie NOT a liar. He accused PRes Obama of a felony and nunes is saying this was incidental and perfectly legal.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
46. I know, but sadly that's how Trumpers are now spinning it
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 02:30 PM
Mar 2017

"Trump was right, he was wiretapped by Obama! "

Ugh.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
49. Trump's comm. were picked up b/c he was talking to a foreign agent under surveillance.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 02:36 PM
Mar 2017

Fuck the Repubs saying that.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
10. If P(E)OTUS called top Russians -- like members of his inner circle did - he was picked up by
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:33 PM
Mar 2017

If P(E)OTUS called top Russians -- like members of his inner circle did -- he was picked up by Western SIGINT.


 

randome

(34,845 posts)
20. Yeah, I'm wondering that too. Why the hell would you make public announcements like this?
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:43 PM
Mar 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
28. He ABSOLUTELY should not be. Nunes should have his clearances pulled & be thrown off HPSCI now. It's
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:50 PM
Mar 2017

John Schindler: He ABSOLUTELY should not be. Nunes should have his clearances pulled & be thrown off HPSCI now. It's outrageous.




MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
13. Nunes says Trump communications were caught in "normal incidental collection...normal foreign survei
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:38 PM
Mar 2017

Nunes says Trump communications were caught in "normal incidental collection...normal foreign surveillance"




Note: Almost all of the threads on the posts in this thread are an interesting read.

mzteaze

(448 posts)
14. So...
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:39 PM
Mar 2017

Nunes, a player in the Dump transition, sets up an investigation into Russia to learn about the secret investigations, FINDS out and releases the info in a PUBLIC press release before he tells the White House???

What in the world?. These jokers aren't even worried about breaking the laws out in the open.

Freethinker65

(10,016 posts)
18. Time to get their stories straight and talking points
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:43 PM
Mar 2017

Guessing something like- nothing to see here. All conversations were completely innocent. It is not unusual for campaign staff to talk to lots of people. We (Trump administration) are positive that Hillary's campaign did it too, and Obama was the worst. Sad. Glad the truth came out now so that we can get back to the business of building that wall, repealing Obamacare, gutting needless regulations, and making America Great Again. Because matters are so urgent with the threat of terrorism close to our soil, the president will spend one less day at Mar a Lago and cut a few rounds of golf and one pep rally. At times like these we all must sacrifice. God Bless America.


Or something like that.


MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
19. Nunes is getting classified briefings on FBI investigation of Trump/associates. *NUNES IS TRUMP ASS
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:43 PM
Mar 2017

Nunes is getting classified briefings on the FBI investigation of Trump/associates. *NUNES IS A TRUMP ASSOCIATE*


anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
29. Asshole Nunes needs to be removed from this committee. He ONLY did this to help Trump folks
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:51 PM
Mar 2017

This is an attempt to confuse the public and buoy Trump supporters -- oh he WAS BEING SPIED ON BY OBAMA! It is fucking ridiculous, and the fact that he pulled a public stunt like this just proves that he is unfit to lead this investigation. Seriously what an ass.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
31. He's floundering, like usual. The appearance of Executive interference is clear.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:56 PM
Mar 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
45. Yes. It is outrageous. Spicer is such a moron. His stumbling and then "I don't know" whine made it
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 02:25 PM
Mar 2017

even worse.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
74. He succeeded
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:56 PM
Mar 2017

in confusing me. With all due respect, I wish CNN & MSNB would get back to the regular news, i.e. Trump, Gorsuch, etc. God, I've become such a junky.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
35. This whole thing smells - need to get stories straight..fire up the shredder....
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 02:00 PM
Mar 2017

if this were a Democratic affair - OMG..I still don't understand what the hell Nunes is doing..and who the hell he thinks he is...is he trying to subvert the ongoing investigation...I suppose any leaks are now good leaks..as long as they are Nunes sources leaks....

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
36. Sputnik News has picked up on Devin Nunes' claims. And they're spinning them wildly out of context t
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 02:03 PM
Mar 2017

Sputnik News has picked up on Devin Nunes' claims. And they're spinning them wildly out of context to discredit the FBI.


spanone

(135,830 posts)
38. breaking: nunes announces that trump folks were under investigation for more than russian probe
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 02:06 PM
Mar 2017

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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
41. Evidently this presser surprised committee members on both sides of the aisle.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 02:18 PM
Mar 2017

According to Eric Geller.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
42. Rache Maddow confirms this.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 02:20 PM
Mar 2017

Confirming this: Schiff spox tells us Chairman Nunes did not discuss this with Schiff before addressing reporters about it today.


Lanius

(599 posts)
67. Nunes wanted to completely control the info he released without Schiff to contradict him. Amazing.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:18 PM
Mar 2017

Republicans really are an organized crime unit, not a political party.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
51. David Corn: Nunes didn't make this clear, but if Trump/aides caught on FISA-OKed "incidental collect
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 02:40 PM
Mar 2017

Nunes didn't make this clear, but if Trump/aides caught on FISA-OKed "incidental collection," this isn't what Trump claimed (illegal spying)

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
53. Dolt45 specifically said Trump Tower was tapped.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 02:41 PM
Mar 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
58. If true, I'm gonna go out on a limb and put my two cents in and say that this
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 02:55 PM
Mar 2017

Is National Security logs that were queried and shared. You can just enter a name and everything comes up. That would cover the "incidental" and there would be no warrant needed. It would also explain the IC head's testimony on Monday.

We need to see some receipts.

Edit: Nunes just said that this info was taken from multiple unrelated fisa warrants anD then put into intelligence reports.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
59. David Corn: Nunes told Ryan, went public, went to WH. Clear signs using political ammo
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 02:57 PM
Mar 2017

But Nunes told Ryan, went public, and trotted off to the White House? These are clear signs he is using this as political ammo.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
61. He didn't even consult with members of his own committee!
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 02:59 PM
Mar 2017

Sounds like Lil' Nunes is scared and not thinking clearly.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
65. Nunes will NOT say who brought him the info and it looks like legal collection and nothing criminal.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:12 PM
Mar 2017

Sorceress

(309 posts)
66. Aww, HELL NO!!!!!
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:13 PM
Mar 2017

They made the Trump allegations of Obama wiretapping a part of the Russia investigation. In an effort to legitimize Trump's lies, they tried to extend the wiretapping allegation to surveillance. Now Nunes is bringing information about the supposed discovery of evidence of alleged surveillance of Trump and/or his campaign staff to the White House. He claims this is acceptable because it is not about Russia. But he AND TRUMP were the ones who insisted we add the surveillance/wiretapping allegations to the Russia investigation. So, HOW is it appropriate for Nunes to bring this information to the White House when he is in charge of investigating the alleged surveillance????? How Sway?

Furthermore, for people who showed their hindparts over leaks. He sure is happy to accept leaked information and protect leakers when it benefits him.


Sorry, but I am over here seething right now.

Lanius

(599 posts)
68. A chairman of an oversight committee briefing the target of an investigation! Nunes needs to go.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:20 PM
Mar 2017

The GOP is not a political party but organized crime.

Kablooie

(18,631 posts)
69. Don't be so happy about this. I'm sure it's being released to validate Trump's tweets.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:23 PM
Mar 2017

I seriously doubt result will be something that favors justice because it's coming from Nunes all by himself.

Peachhead22

(1,078 posts)
71. Isn't giving the TARGET of an investigation...
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:51 PM
Mar 2017

...a heads up about the evidence the DoJ has or who the target should avoid talking frankly to kind of a no-no? Like Obstruction of Justice-type no-no? At the very least, Nunes just made the case for the need of an Independent Prosecutor much much stronger. Or Nunes could have added another count to his own indictment.

On Edit: also, did I read/hear that correctly, that all this stuff involves contact between Team Trump and a FISA target from ANOTHER country (not Russia)?

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
75. We absolutely have to have the house in 2018. Nunes needs to be subpoenaed
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:00 PM
Mar 2017

About these conversations and Ryan and their staff. Cover up is going on to save 45. But covers ups never last in Washington-even the walls talk.

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