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Leaked 11 Hours ago WHERE THE COLLUSION HAPPENED (Original Post) retrowire Mar 2017 OP
That hotel... FarPoint Mar 2017 #1
Snexy (R). Repubes be like so classy and shit. Not. Achilleaze Mar 2017 #3
I think those who believe the Mayflower Hotel is a hotbed for prostitution PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2017 #28
Nope, the madame had roots back to the boat... bettyellen Mar 2017 #25
Too good to be true Thomas Hurt Mar 2017 #2
He said his sources were retrowire Mar 2017 #4
Abramson is on the record in favor of making up the news Fiendish Thingy Mar 2017 #7
UGH. I'm so fed up with pathetic attention whores like that rivegauche Mar 2017 #22
Who is Grant Stern? That radio guy? zentrum Mar 2017 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author zentrum Mar 2017 #6
Your concern is noted. NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #9
With all due respect. NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #12
+1 FailureToCommunicate Mar 2017 #14
+2. MaeScott Mar 2017 #27
I've no doubt you'll provide us with objective evidence illustrating these particulars as false LanternWaste Mar 2017 #31
collusion happened at thousands of lovely dinners, parties, resorts, gatherings, Sunlei Mar 2017 #5
More sources added.... MedusaX Mar 2017 #8
And there you go - Trump announcing a go ahead for the pipeline today flamingdem Mar 2017 #11
It's more likely the brokerage fee on the 19% according to most sources bettyellen Mar 2017 #26
Not exactly "leaked"...but a Stern story from a few days ago... jmg257 Mar 2017 #13
For starters, if there was yet another meeting and coverup by Sessions he needs to resign. bullimiami Mar 2017 #15
Don't really know that much about this @SethAbramson guy but, Ligyron Mar 2017 #16
one can only hope that someone there neohippie Mar 2017 #17
Tread carefully... turbo_satan Mar 2017 #18
A more readable version, with more info appended... thesquanderer Mar 2017 #19
+1 dchill Mar 2017 #21
Also spelled out on this site, which links to the original story. ffr Mar 2017 #30
MAN - there's just too much that's starting to leak out. calimary Mar 2017 #20
The Mayflower was a nice hotel. SCVDem Mar 2017 #23
Trump: "Mr Putin tear down the nation". Reagan: "Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall".... iluvtennis Mar 2017 #24
Connect the dots to Nunes canceling Tuesday's hearing. ffr Mar 2017 #29

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
28. I think those who believe the Mayflower Hotel is a hotbed for prostitution
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 12:07 PM
Mar 2017

are completely confused about who the Mayflower Madam was. She had zero to do with that hotel, and ran her escort service in NYC, rather a distance from DC.

The Mayflower Hotel, on the other hand, is a quite respectable hotel in Washington, DC. I'm sure that more than one hooker has been there, but it's also a place that's quite comfortable for average people. I've stayed there, although that was some years back.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
2. Too good to be true
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 09:26 AM
Mar 2017

Unless this dude has some actual evidence to back it up, this is worse than saying nothing.

Not holding my breath on him coughing up evidence for this anymore than I am that Nunes is going to actually produce the intercepts he had his dog and pony show about.

Believe it when I see it.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
4. He said his sources were
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:03 AM
Mar 2017

Politico and Grant Stern.

Just in case you thought this was a random guy tweeting stuff.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,601 posts)
7. Abramson is on the record in favor of making up the news
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:18 AM
Mar 2017

As performance art, and to fit ones narrative. Proceed with caution

rivegauche

(601 posts)
22. UGH. I'm so fed up with pathetic attention whores like that
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 11:32 AM
Mar 2017

we have enough fake news coming from Chump himself, we don't need any help.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
10. Who is Grant Stern? That radio guy?
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:20 AM
Mar 2017

So his source is another media outlet and a political journalist site?

This is the same thing Rump and Conway do. They say their "source" for their accusations is FOX etc.

Response to Thomas Hurt (Reply #2)

 

NewRedDawn

(790 posts)
12. With all due respect.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:25 AM
Mar 2017

Adam Schiff is on the Intelligence commitee and says there is evidence of collusion with Trumpskis & Russkies. And anyone who can see with their own eyes of all the connections between the two. Policy: Republican platform changed to help Russkies & hurt Ukraine. Trying to shake down NATO & our allies or we will walk, Support of Brexit. Meetings: between Russkies & Trumpskis that first they said was fake news, then later when caught try to down play it. Even Fucking Comey acknowledges a active investigation.If it was so innocent why did they first deny any one had meetings with the russkies? Campaign & cabinet members :like Flynn, Sessions, Stone, Page, Boris Epstyen, Manafort, Tillerson, Gorka, Ross, All have direct ties to Russia. Russia Oligarchs & criminals: constantly seen in Trump towers or Mara Lago, even having offices or residency in these buildings. Don jr. & him saying previously that most of their money comes from Russia. His failure to show taxes that would likely reveal these ties. And the final tale & most telling ; Putin sacking, killing his own intelligence officers, or other people with ties to this mess. Over reacting? All just Coincidence? I think not!

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
31. I've no doubt you'll provide us with objective evidence illustrating these particulars as false
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 12:27 PM
Mar 2017

I've no doubt you'll provide us with objective evidence illustrating these particulars as false rather than simply making an allegation lacking anything to support it.

Or is that too, something I should only believe when I see it...?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
5. collusion happened at thousands of lovely dinners, parties, resorts, gatherings,
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:06 AM
Mar 2017

young model viewing parties for old rich men, fun jet flights "get aways" with girls, thousands of other fabulous venues of the upper class- for decades & decades.

MedusaX

(1,129 posts)
8. More sources added....
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:20 AM
Mar 2017

It appears he has updated his thread with additional sources added in...

I do know that I have read elsewhere about everything cited in his thread
with the exception of knowing exactly what was discussed behind the closed doors at the event ...

Plus
If the 19.5% of Rosneft is in fact the proposed reward to be shared by the Trump Team, then it is important to note that the bank that has financed the sale, and holds the 19.5% as collateral, is the Italian Bank Intesa SanPaolo which is partnered with Blackstone GSO Capital.

The founder/CEO of Blackstone is Steve Schwarzman - who is also the head of Trump's Strategic & Policy Advisory Board.

Schwarzman was also one of the board members for RDIF when it was established in 2011, according to a press release at the time.
David Bonderman of TPG, and Leon Black of Apollo Global Management also served as board members for RDIF along with former Chicago Mayor Daly.

Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF)

Former President Dmitri A. Medvedev established the fund in 2011 with the explicit goal of restoring confidence in Russia’s investment climate. Vnesheconombank, a major Russian state-owned bank was the RDIF primary bank.

RFID CEO -- Mr. K. Dmitriev
Harvard-trained
former Goldman Sachs banker
And McKinsey & Company consultant

http://bebeez.it/en/2015/03/31/us-giant-gso-capital-signs-partnership-italys-intesasanpaolo-smes-financing/

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1582OH


INTESSA SanPaolo is also one of the financing sources behind the Dakota Pipeline project

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
11. And there you go - Trump announcing a go ahead for the pipeline today
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:23 AM
Mar 2017

Fingers crossed for taking down these greedy mafioso controlling our government.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
13. Not exactly "leaked"...but a Stern story from a few days ago...
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:30 AM
Mar 2017
https://medium.com/@grantstern/trump-russia-dossier-decoded-yes-there-really-was-a-massive-oil-deal-e33370349b67#.nfm8ho4s1

Trump Russia Dossier Decoded: Yes, There Really Was A Massive Oil Deal (UPDATED)

Circumstantial evidence strongly indicates that President Donald J. Trump and his campaign associates brokered a massive oil privatization deal, where his Organization facilitated a global financial transaction to sell Russian Oil stock to its Syrian War adversary, the Emirate of Qatar.
...
Donald Trump and Russia conducted the transaction in three phases; Phase 1 began in early 2016 with a meeting of the minds at The Mayflower Hotel to start the deal and a due diligence period, Phase 2 began just before the Republican National Convention and continued through Election Day, and Phase 3 happened after Trump’s shocking win and concluding just days before Buzzfeed published the bombshell dossier describing the deal.

The end result allowed Russia to trade stolen emails to help to Donald Trump’s election campaign (as well as that of many Republican Congressmen), in exchange for help circumventing American sanctions to transact the sale of Rosneft, which Putin desperately needed to finance his budget deficit.

The Rosneft transaction also purportedly sent a $500 million dollar brokerage fee to Carter Page, or perhaps the Trump Organization.

bullimiami

(13,086 posts)
15. For starters, if there was yet another meeting and coverup by Sessions he needs to resign.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:34 AM
Mar 2017

They can figure out what to charge him with later.

Ligyron

(7,632 posts)
16. Don't really know that much about this @SethAbramson guy but,
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:34 AM
Mar 2017

there's a reason Rex Tillerson is Sec of State and I think we all know why that is.

Big question for me is: Can the GOP and Dump get away with lifting sanctions on Russia now that all this info is out there?

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
17. one can only hope that someone there
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:36 AM
Mar 2017

was already under surveillance, being that there are some many foreign players and members of the Trump team and son on

calimary

(81,227 posts)
20. MAN - there's just too much that's starting to leak out.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:59 AM
Mar 2017

Hey donald, you sure got yerself a leaky boat there. You're the one who insisted on sailing it out into deep water without bothering to check the weather. Because the "strength" of your "personality" and your "salesmanship" would see you through as it always seems to have done when you were king of your own little private family-owned companies. And when your "brand" still meant something.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
23. The Mayflower was a nice hotel.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 11:47 AM
Mar 2017

It was at 62nd and Central Park West.

I think dump tore it down to build his hotel.

(Hi to Bobby the bellhop if you're here.)

ffr

(22,669 posts)
29. Connect the dots to Nunes canceling Tuesday's hearing.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 12:21 PM
Mar 2017

The 'no longer circumstantial evidence' manure is coming out of the horse and Nunes, like a good little Scooter Libby did before him, is falling on the administration's sword in a last ditch effort to cover the evidence up or delay the inevitable as long as possible.

Weird! This is what uninformed votes have given us.

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