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pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:33 PM Mar 2017

Fox news, CPAC speaker, Dennis Kucinich has officially crossed to the dark side.

Last edited Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:06 PM - Edit history (3)

He's calling for Comey to recuse himself on the grounds that he won't be fair to Trump.

I'm including the links to Fox because that's where Kucinich has most recently shown his true colors.

Kucinich said this after the inauguration:

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Dennis Kucinich, the liberal former congressman and mayor of Cleveland, enjoyed President Donald Trump's inaugural address Friday.

"GREAT #inauguration speech @RealDonaldTrump!" Kucinich tapped out on Twitter soon after the speech. "Congratulations & best wishes from Dennis & Elizabeth Kucinich watching from Beirut, Lebanon," he added in the tweet, which included American flag emojis.


http://www.cleveland.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/01/dennis_kucinich_cheers_preside.html


Kucinich said this in February:

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/02/14/kucinich-intelligence-community-games-trying-upend-trump

"What's going on in the intelligence community with this president is unprecedented," he said. "They're making every effort to upend him. Who knows what the truth is anymore?"

Kucinich said Trump must get a hold of the intelligence community because he believes there is "definitely something going on" to undermine the president.


AND this is what Kucinich is saying now:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/03/24/dennis-kucinich-fbi-director-comey-must-recuse-himself-from-trump-russia-probe.html

Someone on the House or Senate Judiciary Committee should ask for the FBI agents’ time sheets over the past eight months to see if the Bureau was actually investigating, or whether this is another case of abuse of process — using an alleged investigation to smear a candidate.

A torrent of leaks and partisan charges has been passed off as fact. But was the Russia investigation, excuse the expression, a red herring?

SNIP

Director Comey has put himself in an untenable position. He has a vested interest in focusing on Trump and Russia, because that narrative diverts our attention from his personal effect on the outcome of the 2016 election.

At best, this is the textbook definition of a conflict of interest. At worst, it’s bait-and-switch.
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Fox news, CPAC speaker, Dennis Kucinich has officially crossed to the dark side. (Original Post) pnwmom Mar 2017 OP
Dafuq?!? TDale313 Mar 2017 #1
Election tampering is a big deal to Kucinich and many of us. NCTraveler Mar 2017 #2
DK's lined himself up with conservatives more and more, and he's giving them cover with this piece. pnwmom Mar 2017 #4
Doesn't look to me like he is giving them cover. NCTraveler Mar 2017 #7
Kucinich USED to be well situated on the left. No more. People on the left aren't invited pnwmom Mar 2017 #10
Why you bring up Bernie is beyone me. Nevermind. I know. NCTraveler Mar 2017 #14
Because he is an example of someone very progressive, as Kucinich USED to be, pnwmom Mar 2017 #17
My point stands. NCTraveler Mar 2017 #21
I don't think it's about trusting Comey.... fun n serious Mar 2017 #31
Kompromat. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2017 #3
Nope he does it for the paycheck. He needed the income after he lost his seat grantcart Mar 2017 #6
I read the whole piece and thought it was very reasonable. spooky3 Mar 2017 #5
I didn't see it either. I doubt many will read it all. NCTraveler Mar 2017 #9
Agreed--and points out an untrustworthy person cannot be spooky3 Mar 2017 #11
DT wants Comey off the case so he can appoint someone else. Kucinich is giving him cover. pnwmom Mar 2017 #13
he's been way more Trump-friendly than I would have expected Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #22
Someone needs a little attention apparently. JTFrog Mar 2017 #8
Maybe Putin will hire him to be a living garden gnome, nt geek tragedy Mar 2017 #12
Man bites dog is always a story DefenseLawyer Mar 2017 #15
I have little , but I couldn't be a conservative for all the money in the world. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #18
Neither could Kucinich. Nt NCTraveler Mar 2017 #24
Guy sounds like a right wing extremist. NCTraveler Mar 2017 #16
A solid left progressive wouldn't have been congratulating DT on his great inauguration speech pnwmom Mar 2017 #19
Keep trying. NCTraveler Mar 2017 #23
Jill Stein also poses as a progressive and is a DT/Putin enabler. nt pnwmom Mar 2017 #25
She does a bad job posing. You have now brought Sanders and Stein into this. NCTraveler Mar 2017 #29
He has said a couple of problematic things as of late. Sorceress Mar 2017 #20
Disappointing mcar Mar 2017 #26
as long as a microphone exist...Kucinich is going to yap...so you find him where microphones are beachbum bob Mar 2017 #27
It's very sad to see what he has become. Is this what selling out to the almighty $$$ looks like? Tatiana Mar 2017 #28
Hope that paycheck from Mother Russia was worth it! Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #30
Seriously Kucinich? GaiasResistance Mar 2017 #32
Welcome to DU, GaiasResistance! n/t pnwmom Mar 2017 #34
I know people who have met Kucinich in person and have said he is a real asshole. phleshdef Mar 2017 #33
Dennis the Suck up now joins Dead (Big Eddy) Schultz... Rustyeye77 Mar 2017 #35
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
2. Election tampering is a big deal to Kucinich and many of us.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:37 PM
Mar 2017

His point is well made. Comey has a vested interest in moving on in a grand way. How deep his cover goes we might never know. The other day he said he cleared it with the JD before stating some members of Trumps team were caught up in surveillance. With Clinton he went rogue. That is a BFD. If he can keep democrats happy that he is looking into Trump then they might not remember to look back.


If it was appropriate to withhold information about an investigation into the Trump campaign in July, he should have applied that same logic to the Clinton campaign in October. Hillary Clinton, charged not with a crime but by innuendo, paid the price at the polls. She was convicted in the court of public opinion.

Comey’s announcement this week that the FBI was investigating possible collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government made national and world headlines and rocked the White House.

But why now? Why not eight months ago? Has new, substantive information been brought forward? Was there even a real investigation in July? Or did an insider leak a story to the FBI back then for political purposes?

Someone on the House or Senate Judiciary Committee should ask for the FBI agents’ time sheets over the past eight months to see if the Bureau was actually investigating, or whether this is another case of abuse of process — using an alleged investigation to smear a candidate.


http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/03/24/dennis-kucinich-fbi-director-comey-must-recuse-himself-from-trump-russia-probe.html


pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
4. DK's lined himself up with conservatives more and more, and he's giving them cover with this piece.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:40 PM
Mar 2017

They want to appoint one of their stooges to this position, and he's trying to help them.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
7. Doesn't look to me like he is giving them cover.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:50 PM
Mar 2017

Like me, he hasn't forgotten how rotten Comey is. He shouldn't be in the position he is. He upended a Presidential election. I get that you think he should still be Director after doing so. I think he should be let go and fully investigated. Then again, I don't think it is currently possible to get rid of him unless congressional Republicans want him gone. He helped them to win an election so I doubt it.

Never forget that he upended an election in favor of Trump. As close as the election was, his single move might have been enough. It's unacceptable for the Director to do so. Many of us won't forget so easily.

Kucinich is well situated on the left. Nothing more than attacking the left here.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
10. Kucinich USED to be well situated on the left. No more. People on the left aren't invited
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:55 PM
Mar 2017

to be speakers at CPAC. You won't ever hear that Bernie was invited there.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
14. Why you bring up Bernie is beyone me. Nevermind. I know.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:10 PM
Mar 2017

Liberty University?

Your trust in Comey is misplaced as is your characterization of Kucinich.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
17. Because he is an example of someone very progressive, as Kucinich USED to be,
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:22 PM
Mar 2017

who would never appear at a CPAC conference. And many Kucinich supporters went on to support Bernie.

Your first post here was well taken. I did add other statements of Kucinich's to the OP, so people can see his recent statement in context -- such as when he lauded DT for his "great" inauguration speech.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
21. My point stands.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:26 PM
Mar 2017

I have no interest in arguing Sanders. You can have at that. Kucinich is well on the left and your trust in Comey is misplaced.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
31. I don't think it's about trusting Comey....
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 06:37 PM
Mar 2017

It's more about knowing a Trump replacement would be much much worse.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
3. Kompromat.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:39 PM
Mar 2017

I wonder if the Russians found anything on Dennis.

That's disappointing but not isolated. Several other media persona have gone down a similar path.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
6. Nope he does it for the paycheck. He needed the income after he lost his seat
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:44 PM
Mar 2017

been doing it for quite sometime.

spooky3

(34,444 posts)
5. I read the whole piece and thought it was very reasonable.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:43 PM
Mar 2017

I don't see any evidence of DK's "crossing over."

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
9. I didn't see it either. I doubt many will read it all.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:51 PM
Mar 2017

It's a very reasonable piece and he doesn't want to simply forget what he did to upend an election.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
13. DT wants Comey off the case so he can appoint someone else. Kucinich is giving him cover.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:59 PM
Mar 2017

And Kucinich has been a DT apologist starting during the campaign.

Here was a Feb. 2017 statement:

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/02/14/kucinich-intelligence-community-games-trying-upend-trump

"What's going on in the intelligence community with this president is unprecedented," he said. "They're making every effort to upend him. Who knows what the truth is anymore?"

Kucinich said Trump must get a hold of the intelligence community because he believes there is "definitely something going on" to undermine the president.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
8. Someone needs a little attention apparently.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:51 PM
Mar 2017

Not sure he's gonna be happy with the kind of attention this gets him.

Pretty stupid reasoning.

We do, however, need a special prosecutor like yesterday.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
16. Guy sounds like a right wing extremist.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:19 PM
Mar 2017

"It's clear from polling data that Comey's announcement of discovery of new Clinton emails affected 2016 election." Kuckinch 3/22

"No more bogus healthcare reform! We need #MedicareForAll!!" Kucinich 3/22

"FBI's Comey only has to look in mirror to see who tilted the 2016 election" Kucinich 3/21

"US Administration has no legal, legitimate cause to attack #Syria. Totally immoral & undermines our security" Kucinich 3/18

"The more people we send, the more dead Americans there'll be. Need to pass the #StopArmingTerrorists Act" -http://observer.com/2017/03/dennis-kucinich-donald-trump-adds-troops-war-syria/ … #Syria Kucinich 3/16

Dennis Kucinich‏Verified account @Dennis_Kucinich · Feb 23

"I'll be on @foxandfriends this morning around 7.15am talking about legal basis for #SanctuaryCities, #HomeRule and the #Constitution." Kucinich 2/23


The trend of attacking solid left leaning Democrats has been noticeable.












pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
19. A solid left progressive wouldn't have been congratulating DT on his great inauguration speech
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:25 PM
Mar 2017

or taking money to speak at CPAC.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
23. Keep trying.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:29 PM
Mar 2017

I get he isn't meeting your standards. Healthcare for all and not getting into stupid wars is the dark side.



The trend of attacking left leaning Democrats is clear.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
29. She does a bad job posing. You have now brought Sanders and Stein into this.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 06:28 PM
Mar 2017

There are similarities.

Again, I get that healthcare for all is the dark side to you. Above, when looking for the name of someone solidly on the left, you couldn't pull out one Democrats name. Transparent. Clear trend of attacking the left.

Another edit or two and it will be great. I promise.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
27. as long as a microphone exist...Kucinich is going to yap...so you find him where microphones are
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 06:26 PM
Mar 2017

and he has no core principles so its easy for him

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
28. It's very sad to see what he has become. Is this what selling out to the almighty $$$ looks like?
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 06:26 PM
Mar 2017

Clearly he doesn't have principles. Trying to protect Trump? That's a new low.

GaiasResistance

(5 posts)
32. Seriously Kucinich?
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 06:53 PM
Mar 2017

The fact he is on Fox News in bad enough, but wtf! Has he come down with dementia? I worked on his short lived campaign for president way back in the day with a group of some amazing older people( I was too young to appreciate how cool they actually were) Totally a long shot at the time, but he was the coolest dude- driving his hippie van, this down to earth vegan guy- he spoke so casually about changing the system. Obviously that was a bummer year. His wife Elizabeth also does some incredible work. I saw her speak at Bioneers on sustainable agriculture/ biodynamics and the importance of soil. Of course this was before Bernie and I was thinking " he should run again, Elizabeth would be a kick ass FLOTUS.
It seems there is a particular sort of itis that develops in people who seek to change the system and get within the political apparatus, or are offered ridiculous money( as goes the case in MSM spots or speaking fees to random think tanks etc) to do shit they should be doing for little to nothing. They either burn out and drop out, become way too vanilla or apologetic for their beliefs, or they sell out completely. I think there is a very small exception to the rule. You have to be willing to be unpopular to be legit, you have to be able to raise money without taking any from big money,or at the very least taking it from unethical industry or companies, and you have to be chronically cynical of your coworkers and the system. Not too many of those.
I think that most people know at some level the system won't be changed politely,if it can be changed at all. Reform is simply not good enough. Capitalism, hierarchy, and the dangerous and unrealistic model of endless growth is what turns the gears of power in this country, and unless one can put enough wrenches in those gears to break it, nothing will change. If it does, it will be temporary. We have seen it ever 70-80 years in this struggle to balance the scales.The fatigue suffered when a passionate hopeful person experiences when they not just mentally know but see first hand from the inside, just how deeply corrupt and complicated the government and history of this country is, has to be mind numbing.
You never know though, maybe people could trick Trump into doing progressive things by kissing his ass and making him feel like a working class hero and champion of planet earth. Right. Lol. Someone needs to be dropping some mind expansion substances in his McDonalds lunches everyday. Maybe Trump just needs to reconcile the hurt he must have experienced psychologically. If Wallace could have a change of heart, anyone could, right? It's just about who makes him feel the most heroic. Perhaps the left is going about this wrong. ( there is no way I could play long game manipulation personally. I am allergic to kissing ass) but some people are good at it. Look at his GOP minions. You know they hate him for reelz

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
33. I know people who have met Kucinich in person and have said he is a real asshole.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 06:55 PM
Mar 2017

My wife actually supported him in 2008. I kept telling her there was something off about him. He pretends to be what Bernie Sanders actually is.

Of course, she switched to John Edwards after that and I said the same thing... the constant blinking was always a big tell for me.

I got on the Obama train the night of the "Yes We Can" speech and never looked back. She joined me after Edwards dropped out and endorsed him.

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