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cheyanne

(733 posts)
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:58 PM Mar 2017

I can't believe that Manafort and Stone are about to testify to their crimes. . .

They must have a reason for testifying to the intel committee, and it can't be good.

I think that they and their cohorts were put in place in the administration to assure Putin that the sanctions would get lifted and they are running out of time since Trump is blowing up his presidency.

Maybe they are going to throw someone else under the bus. Flynn?

This can't be good.

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I can't believe that Manafort and Stone are about to testify to their crimes. . . (Original Post) cheyanne Mar 2017 OP
They've been given all the questions, Nunes is a true hack uponit7771 Mar 2017 #1
Yeah, Sculpin Beauregard Mar 2017 #2
Maybe those 9-10 ded Russians have impressed them dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #15
Oh, you mean rock Mar 2017 #31
They'll screw it up, and incriminate themselves, or just go "no comment" the whole way. sunonmars Mar 2017 #3
Oh they are gonna lie about everything. Why not, there are no consequences. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #4
"it can't be good." Oh, it can be VERY good. They are Prime Snitches! Now on whom, hmm? Let's think. WinkyDink Mar 2017 #5
The bets are on Carter Page to roll over first. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #16
Page did come across as fidgety and flaky. WinkyDink Mar 2017 #17
Page is flat goofy Cosmocat Mar 2017 #20
I can't imagine them telling the truth. Solly Mack Mar 2017 #6
They've had plenty of time to get their stories straight. snort Mar 2017 #7
No. They are going to bullshit. They are professional bullshitters. CanonRay Mar 2017 #8
On the advice of counsel matt819 Mar 2017 #9
Maybe Stone will make Exhibit A his Nixon Tattoo nt delisen Mar 2017 #10
First man gibraltar72 Mar 2017 #11
Testify before Congress beats being thrown out a window 100% of the time. n/t DefenseLawyer Mar 2017 #12
Carter Page too Peachhead22 Mar 2017 #13
here's why: Oliver North got the golden ring: immunity from Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #14
100% correct UCmeNdc Mar 2017 #22
Their lawyers and WH lawyers (probably with George Conway's advice) know about immunization wishstar Mar 2017 #25
What amazes me is that Stone and Page in OnDoutside Mar 2017 #18
they're just going to bullshit Skittles Mar 2017 #19
They hope Nunes will give them cover. UCmeNdc Mar 2017 #21
If Putin thought they were a threat to his operation they'd be dead already. briv1016 Mar 2017 #23
BAHAHA. They most definitely are NOT going to do that LibraLiz1973 Mar 2017 #24
They can be be charged with perjury. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #30
They have their scripts complex now. FarPoint Mar 2017 #26
They won't JustAnotherGen Mar 2017 #27
I smell Bannon C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #28
I am not sure I buy it. No lawyer in their right mind would Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #29
Republican Dog and Pony Show, narrative control exercise at work. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #32
They have such hubris.... Adrahil Mar 2017 #33

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
15. Maybe those 9-10 ded Russians have impressed them
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 08:25 PM
Mar 2017

and they don't want to fall out of a building and smash their head in and have a heart attack all while being shot.

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
3. They'll screw it up, and incriminate themselves, or just go "no comment" the whole way.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 06:01 PM
Mar 2017

They are that cocky.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
5. "it can't be good." Oh, it can be VERY good. They are Prime Snitches! Now on whom, hmm? Let's think.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 06:04 PM
Mar 2017

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
16. The bets are on Carter Page to roll over first.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 08:45 PM
Mar 2017

I saw that tv interview he did.....his tongue outraces his brain very easily, and he lets loose with contradictory statements on a matter of fact basis.

Stone has an equally loose mouth, but he tends to think.

Manafort has been playing with the Russians and the Ukrainians for years, he will never talk about that, too many of his pals have ended up dead.
He might turn on just Trump stuff, tho, if it is true that Treasury has been after him for all the
Russian/Ukraine money laundering he did.
that will be interesting.

trump, of course, lies about everything, all the time, both sides of the story.
He even denies saying things that are in film!
Halfway decent lawyer would plead diminished capacity.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
20. Page is flat goofy
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 04:52 AM
Mar 2017

He is like that in all of his interviews.

If the Russians cross the line to take out a us conspirator, he's the odds on favorite to be the first to go.

snort

(2,334 posts)
7. They've had plenty of time to get their stories straight.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 06:09 PM
Mar 2017

I think they're going to lie their asses off.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
9. On the advice of counsel
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 06:28 PM
Mar 2017

the odds are good that the fifth amendment will come into the conversation. Like 45 has done dozens of times.

Peachhead22

(1,078 posts)
13. Carter Page too
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 06:45 PM
Mar 2017

That's gonna be some must see TV!

Does anyone else find it curious that Manafort, Stone and Page are all suddenly "eager" to talk just after Nunes rushed over to Trump to talk about incidental collection during legal FISA SIGINT intercepts?

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
14. here's why: Oliver North got the golden ring: immunity from
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 06:48 PM
Mar 2017

prosecution for lying to congress.

that's why they're talking. they want the same deal North got.

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:I7Vh12KCUYUJ:https://fas.org/irp/offdocs/walsh/chap_02.htm+&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

they may be crooked, lying, treasonous assferrets, but they have the best legal advice millions of rubles can buy:

North was indicted in March 1988 on 16 Iran/contra charges, along with Poindexter, retired U.S. Air Force Maj. Gen. Richard V. Secord and Albert Hakim in a 23-count indictment. After the cases were severed and the central conspiracy charges were dropped due to classified-information problems, North stood trial beginning in February 1989 on 12 counts. On May 4, 1989, he was found guilty of three counts, including aiding and abetting obstruction of Congress, shredding and altering official documents, and accepting an illegal gratuity from Secord.

North's convictions were vacated on July 20, 1990, after the appeals court found that witnesses in his trial might have been impermissibly affected by his immunized congressional testimony.


can't believe this is getting zero coverage on TV (well, considering what's out there today, maybe not), if Manstonepage spill the beans, instead of continuing to lie their asses off, this has got to become the foundation of the unraveling of this bunch of america hating traitors.

how can it not? dems better put their stompin' boots on, and fight like benghazi KGOPers on this one

wishstar

(5,269 posts)
25. Their lawyers and WH lawyers (probably with George Conway's advice) know about immunization
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 05:46 AM
Mar 2017

Man/Page/Stone all have high powered Repub lawyers who have consulted this past week and concocted this scheme to try to save them by this stunt of coming in front of Congress publicly in hopes of mucking up any prosecutions they could face and hoping for same kind of outcome that overturned North's convictions.

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
18. What amazes me is that Stone and Page in
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 03:32 AM
Mar 2017

Particular have been so willing to engage in media communication, either they are very stupid or super confident they are within the law/law has no evidence.

As someone else said, maybe it is the cover-up that will actually bring them down.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
19. they're just going to bullshit
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 03:33 AM
Mar 2017

Stone added, “I am more than anxious to testify before the house committee that I have had no contact with the Russian state and that my limited contacts with Guccifer 2.0 were innocuous in content and came only after hacking of the DNC documents which is the crime we are accused of colluding on. Impossible.”

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
21. They hope Nunes will give them cover.
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 05:10 AM
Mar 2017

The chairman of the House intelligence Nunes will run interference for them. That is why they are all suddenly running to the house investigation. Nunes will probably give them written questions the committee will be allowed to ask.

LibraLiz1973

(8,197 posts)
24. BAHAHA. They most definitely are NOT going to do that
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 05:43 AM
Mar 2017

They're liars who are going to lie like their lives depend on it.
It's a fucking joke and the only reason I think it's okay to go through with the travesty at all is that there will be a record of their lies-- making it easier to charge them.

Lets never forget that Manafort took millions of dollars (that we KNOW OF) to push the Russian agenda. I'd bet he's about to earn some more money w/ his testimony.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
30. They can be be charged with perjury.
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 07:50 AM
Mar 2017

Go for it boys...there is information obtained by the FBI so lie like a rug.

FarPoint

(12,366 posts)
26. They have their scripts complex now.
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 05:50 AM
Mar 2017

Putin and Trump have already established the directives...They will lie with every breath.....Denial is their motto..Mafia rules of testifying.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
29. I am not sure I buy it. No lawyer in their right mind would
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 07:49 AM
Mar 2017

allow them to testify to Congress without a deal...sounds like bullshit like the Nunes thing...be wary. It won't work of course...everyday more and more damaging information comes out. The 'president' is not only illegitimate but it is become clearer that he is a traitor that sold out this country.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
32. Republican Dog and Pony Show, narrative control exercise at work.
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 10:11 AM
Mar 2017

Watch them blame Obama for illegal political spying on a Republican campaign.

These guys are old hats at espionage and dirty tricks. They know all about the law and how to avoid jurisdiction over their actions, using buffers (mob term for intermediaries so no one can link them to crimes), and they are bald-faced liars who have done whatever it takes to achieve political ends, including allegedly murder. Manafort's daughter's phone was hacked and even his kids talk about the blood on his hands, but you can bet there is no evidence trail to connect him to those deaths.

And the compliant media will be a pre-scripted part of the conspiracy to make this all about Obama's political crimes.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
33. They have such hubris....
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 10:19 AM
Mar 2017

I'm thinking they will purger the hell outta themselves.

Flynn is in deeper and deeper doo-doo. Don;t know if anything will come of kidnapping accusations, but man, these muthafuckas are dirty as all get out.

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