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Squinch

(50,949 posts)
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 08:16 PM Mar 2017

Obamacare is still in a very, very precarious position. Perhaps more now than ever.

The Republicans are in a position where they can kill Obamacare with a thousand cuts, dropping funding here, adding restrictions there. They want it to fail, and they are in the position to make it happen. They actually can make it implode.

We have to assume that the Republicans and Trump are in agreement that sabotaging Obamacare is their way forward.

We aren't out of the woods yet by any stretch of the imagination.

We need to watch these crooks like a bunch of angry hawks.

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Obamacare is still in a very, very precarious position. Perhaps more now than ever. (Original Post) Squinch Mar 2017 OP
You never know what gotchas can be hidden in a "must pass" bill. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2017 #1
Time to push single payer Phoenix61 Mar 2017 #2
If our Dem reps were smart, every one of them would be standing together somewhere with Squinch Mar 2017 #5
Damn straight! You are so right, and now is the best time to PUSH HARD Kimchijeon Mar 2017 #16
And this is where Obama iamateacher Mar 2017 #3
This Is Important To Do.... global1 Mar 2017 #23
They already loosened up the mandate flamingdem Mar 2017 #4
And they're going to be pissed now and need to break something like the infantile bullies they are. Squinch Mar 2017 #6
Ryan must be breaking down on some level, his own use of entitlements to get through college flamingdem Mar 2017 #7
I so hope you're right. This election floored me with the resilience of the ignorance of the Squinch Mar 2017 #8
HHS Inspector General's Office underthematrix Mar 2017 #9
Absolutely correct - republicans are nothing but greedy killers... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #10
A frickin' TRILLION dollars of tax cuts for the rich. A TRILLION!!! Squinch Mar 2017 #11
I believe the figure was more like $800 BILLION - but still... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #13
we'll have to be vigilant, keep the public informed and keep Indivisible and others in their faces. KewlKat Mar 2017 #12
Similar views expressed here: spooky3 Mar 2017 #14
I kicked and recced. I fear that the "drip" method might be much more of a threat than Squinch Mar 2017 #25
I agree, and we need to keep beating the drum mountain grammy Mar 2017 #15
You are so right. Mandate will not be enforced, funding will dry up, ACA will die quickly. Hoyt Mar 2017 #17
I agree GulfCoast66 Mar 2017 #18
Yes. And in the meantime keep the pressure on legislators to keep Obamacare fully funded Squinch Mar 2017 #26
Just as the ACA got more popular after the Deplorables tried to take it away DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #19
I really hope so but this message won't happen on its own. We need to push it hard everywhere. Squinch Mar 2017 #20
I believe the Dems are prepared to make some fixes on their own and to protect what they can, nikibatts Mar 2017 #21
The GOP has been at it for years now, already. rgbecker Mar 2017 #22
This is NOT over. Not even close to being over Gman Mar 2017 #24

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
2. Time to push single payer
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 08:19 PM
Mar 2017

Hard! The repubs have just shown they don't have a plan and they don't know how to come up with a plan. Let's give them one.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
5. If our Dem reps were smart, every one of them would be standing together somewhere with
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 08:26 PM
Mar 2017

a giant banner that says, "Single payer for all" and every one of them would be getting onto a tv or radio show to explain what that means.

The country is more ripe to hear this today than they have ever been before.

iamateacher

(1,089 posts)
3. And this is where Obama
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 08:20 PM
Mar 2017

Can explain the changes the Repubs made,that caused it to fail. (Insurance Risk pool) Explanations go a long way, Democrats. Romney care in Mass. is working. Explain the facts.

global1

(25,241 posts)
23. This Is Important To Do....
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:00 PM
Mar 2017

all through the run up to today's failed vote attempt and even after - all the Repugs have been saying ACA is a disaster; it is failing; it will implode. Not once have I heard a Dem stick up for it by explaining how the Repugs sabatoged it to assure its failure. Now the Dems need to - with details - tell the American People how the Repugs sandbagged it.

We have the attention of the American People now. It is time to out the Repugs and their destructive actions to ACA. It is also time to take it to the next step and promote a single payer - Medicare Part E - health insurance for every American modeled after the very successful Medicare Act that has supported elderly and disabled Americans for decades.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
6. And they're going to be pissed now and need to break something like the infantile bullies they are.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 08:26 PM
Mar 2017

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
7. Ryan must be breaking down on some level, his own use of entitlements to get through college
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 08:30 PM
Mar 2017

His use of govt healthcare for his family. Can someone die of hypocrisy? But we know that he'll deal with this "shame" by planning his next sick attack via tax reform.

So glad the citizens are getting a real clear picture of who they are, this has turned around millions of deplorables I bet

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
8. I so hope you're right. This election floored me with the resilience of the ignorance of the
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 08:32 PM
Mar 2017

American electorate.

 

Talk Is Cheap

(389 posts)
10. Absolutely correct - republicans are nothing but greedy killers...
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 08:36 PM
Mar 2017

Republicans will do everything possible to sabotage the ACA.

And a side note: the AHCA was actually a huge 'tax cut for the rich' bill. Look for these same tax cuts to be implemented in another tax bill. That's why Ryan says the next thing they will work on is taxes...

 

Talk Is Cheap

(389 posts)
13. I believe the figure was more like $800 BILLION - but still...
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 08:41 PM
Mar 2017

The excess that added up to a trillion was purposeful in that the bill
could then be passed with reconciliation...

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
12. we'll have to be vigilant, keep the public informed and keep Indivisible and others in their faces.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 08:40 PM
Mar 2017

we the people have to fight with all we've got to get our message out.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
25. I kicked and recced. I fear that the "drip" method might be much more of a threat than
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 05:36 AM
Mar 2017

"repeal and replace."

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
15. I agree, and we need to keep beating the drum
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 08:51 PM
Mar 2017

for single payer or public option.. people are finally paying attention to this.

We have to call out everything they do to weaken the ACA, like they've been doing. This is war!

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
17. You are so right. Mandate will not be enforced, funding will dry up, ACA will die quickly.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 09:23 PM
Mar 2017

In fact, this may be exactly what a lot of GOPers planned.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
18. I agree
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 09:42 PM
Mar 2017

But the republicans now own it. In it's entirety.

If we start pushing single payer we may find our way out of the wilderness.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
26. Yes. And in the meantime keep the pressure on legislators to keep Obamacare fully funded
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 05:38 AM
Mar 2017

and tell them not mess with it because we'll come after them if they do.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
19. Just as the ACA got more popular after the Deplorables tried to take it away
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 09:46 PM
Mar 2017

Just as the ACA became more popular after the Deplorables tried to take it away folks will begin to believe it was working pretty good until Trump and the Deplorables messed it up.


We win !!!

 

nikibatts

(2,198 posts)
21. I believe the Dems are prepared to make some fixes on their own and to protect what they can,
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 09:48 PM
Mar 2017

As soon as the GOP tries to make a cut the Dems should spread the word, call more town halls to explain what they are doing and get the voters to jam the communication lines to their Representatives. Now that we have their attention, this entire episode might be the best avenue to educate some voters about the ACA and other laws like Estate Taxes, etc.

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