I agree with Michael Moore.

[fun n serious]

We need single payer and it needs to be our party's message. Now is a good time!

[putitinD]

1. the only real solution is single payer!

[democrank]

2. Agree, and we should begin immediately.

Democrats and other like minded people have to muster up the courage, ignore the naysayers, and begin to plan for single payer.

[fun n serious]

4. We have the momentum. No time to snooze. nt

[yallerdawg]

3. Did he say which Republicans will come along?

Or did he say what he always says - decade after decade?

[fun n serious]

5. Well for now we at least campaign with that message....

[Nevermypresident]

11. Agree! In context with both trump and ryan saying today that they'll sit by and let

Obamacare explode instead of fixing parts that need it (and then have leverage to push thru their inhumane "healthcare&quot , we must organize, thoroughly research, and develop a single payor plan and develop ads, etc. to explain the details to Americans.

[MoonRiver]

50. Yes!

Welcome to DU Nevermypresident!

[Demsrule86]

55. I want to campaign with a message that will get us votes.

I am not sure outside of Democrats that single payer will do that...there are still more people with work insurance than not...timing is everything...what we can do is show how market based insurance can never work...and get people to realize the GOP are liars.

[HopeAgain]

6. Not one Republican would vote for a single payor. Nt

[rufus dog]

25. And not one Democrat was going to vote for ACA appeal.

Yet the repukes tried 60 times, campaigned on it, and then failed to do it. So it seems that Joe Six Pack wanted something done. And believed the repukes would make something better. They lied and couldn't and didn't. Here is the thing, single payer wouldn't be a lie.

[ekelly]

34. Even Republican voters are fired up about their healthcare

and are pissed that they could lose what they've got NOW.

We have to fight like hell starting right now...get that message out there, talk with people, convince them that it's the better way to make sure they don't end up with another Repub crappy plan shoved at them.

If we can take back the house and senate, we won't need Repub votes. We have to fight to regain seats.

[truebluegreen]

38. Not one Republican voted for the AC.

[MyOwnPeace]

7. I don't disagree........

but I think you're ignoring the political reality at this point: We won today, but that doesn't mean we have the power to lead.
Trying to drive that would only encourage the fuster-clucks to unite to defeat what is right.

[Kimchijeon]

8. Yes! We were watching him just now, NOW is a great time!

[KewlKat]

9. Moore made sense. Agree, we need to move quickly. Price will do what he can to destroy ACA

Not sure how many rethugs would go along but we have to try.

[fun n serious]

12. They never will go along with it.

We have to blast the message out at least for now..

[NCTraveler]

15. We can't get it on the house or senate agenda.

I think the current tactic is solid. Many people like Kucinich and Sanders are out there talking about it, among other. The message is getting thru. Not one Republican would vote for it and that no vote would help most in reelection. Additionally, the longer ideas written into legislation hang out there the less popular it becomes. Yet the more we talk about it the more popular it becomes.

[Talk Is Cheap]

10. The citizen republican has 'good healthcare' in their minds...

Yes, now is the time for Dems to message the hell out of single payer and get the American public
to force the repubs to implement single payer.

MM is correct - we need to step up our messaging...

[JI7]

13. did he do anything to support it in colorado last year ?

[fun n serious]

14. No, but at least now he is helping with sending the message..

[KewlKat]

16. So we get the states to start this, like Moore suggested.

[fun n serious]

17. I am in a strong blue state and writing my GOV now. nt

[KewlKat]

18. great. i'm in a very red state sadly. maybe i can help you blue state folks do something?

[Paka]

19. Absolutely...Amen!

[YOHABLO]

20. Hello DNC ! Get busy.

[ancianita]

21. Medicare For All could get everyone re-elected in 2018. Everyone.

[Equinox Moon]

22. Yes!

[BadgerMom]

23. 2018 message

"We will work toward single payer." That should be our message. AND we should have the legislation ready to go, though realistically we probably can't get it signed until we have the White House.

That shouldn't be all we have planned. Campaign finance reform, voting rights, reproductive rights all need to be tackled. But healthcare for all is our issue.

[fun n serious]

24. Yes. For now we have momentum and should not sleep

[ekelly]

35. Yes, to having the legislation ready.

Put it out there...actually show people what we've got. They won't all like what they see, but they don't ALL have to like it...just ENOUGH voters need to like it.

[TexasBushwhacker]

37. And moving toward single payer wouldn't be that hard

Just allow anyone to buy into Medicare if they want. Let Medicare negotiate drug prices.

[elmac]

26. We need to get money out of politics before anything else

or we will continue to have fascists in control.

[BadgerMom]

30. +1000

Come for the health care. Stay for the fair, free, non-corporate/billionaire voting experience. The Republicans have overplayed their hand. We're onto them. We must fix the problem.

[Demsrule86]

59. Elect Democrats and end United...the only way.

[Sunlei]

27. tweak ACA towards that goal. It takes many years of tweaks for big programs like Social Security.

ACA is just starting into its 3rd year of serving Americans.

[fun n serious]

28. Good idea!

[Demsrule86]

60. I agree with that...ACA is the vehicle that will eventually give us single payer.

We need to add states to the Medicaid expansion so more people experience what having health care means...and Medicaid is very affordable in general and then a public option and also encourage states who want to try...but consider what happened in Vermont carefully. I do not think if we enact huge tax increases, we will be able to sell single payer. Lower the Medicaid age for those over 50. It would be a start.

[Doreen]

29. We need women's day crowds to go in fast and furious

and grip on like a cowboy on a bucking bronco. I know it sounds corny but hey.

[Hamlette]

31. I thought 1934 was the time. So was 1992. Why in the world would you think NOW was the time?

its not like we haven't been trying for nearly 100 years. They have the house, the senate and the WH. Good luck with that.

[truebluegreen]

39. Um, maybe because we want to take back

the House, the Senate and the WH. The utter collapse today, and the lead-up to the fiasco, has the issue on our citizens' minds. It's a great time to sow the seed.

Got a better idea?

[Hamlette]

43. no better idea but I hope some people understand why we couldn't do it before.

there are a lot of people in power who think like the Koch brothers. Personification of evil.

[SHRED]

32. California is trying

SB 562.

http://www.healthycaliforniaact.org

[lies]

33. 100%

And though no one hear is interested Bernie said tonight he'd be introducing such a plan in coming days. And he is the most popular pol in America.

[truebluegreen]

40. Some of us are interested

and supportive of the great senator from VT.

We know the pukes won't pass it, or even discuss it, but their debacle of a healthcare bill has even their own voters thinking about it (some of them).

[Bayard]

42. I always listen to Bernie

NOW is absolutely the time to make huge amounts of noise about REAL, affordable insurance for everyone, that doesn't include billionaire tax cuts. Turns out, the ACA is well-supported. Who knew? Dems need to shout from the rooftops about just what TrumpCare would have meant, and to not let Rethugs get away with stabbing the ACA in the back.

Bernie is always on message. And whether he is an Independent, Democrat, or Klingon just does not matter. He is the face of PROGRESSIVE, and he is out there constantly. He has guts.

[Demsrule86]

45. And it will go exactly nowhere...and that is the reality...we are going to have to work really hard

to get single payer...and that means electing Democrats to Congress and to the White House.

[lies]

46. Not just Democrats

Democrats that want single payer.

[Demsrule86]

47. There you go again with the idea that some Democrats don't want single payer...I have yet

to meet one who didn't...I do. However, we tried once...Bill Clinton attempted to put in single payer and we lost big...it has to be done correctly when we have the power to do so. It won't happen with a GOP president and Congress. You do understand that the GOP wants to get rid of Medicare and Paul Ryan has a budget that would do so. It will be a fight to keep what we have. Electing Trump was devastating for progressives. Now is the time to start selling a single payer plan...get the public really behind it...because it will be a tough slog. I would add that this attitude towards other Democrats that your post indicates is unfortunate and divisive. Unity is needed before we can win anything. And you better consider that the only way we win is to have a big tent which means Democrats may have different views on things...although, I think single payer is pretty universal. But don't kid yourself... The fox guy says ten years for single payer...and I think he may be right. We have turned a corner though...people now believe that health care is a right and not a privilege...that is huge. So take a moment to thank President Obama who did the hard work of health care and Nancy and all the other Dems who voted for it ...walked the plank as it were. The Democrats sacrificed their majority so other Americans could live and not die without health coverage-You and others may not like the ACA but it changed the country...I am pretty damn proud to be in a party with folks like that and a proud to be a Democrat. So let's save the ACA so we have something to build on...have some patience with health care you damn well need it.

[lies]

49. Look at history

Democrats passed a Republican written plan, which was not single payer. Didn't they.

Hillary has said America will never have Single Payer, and that Sanders was lying that it was an option. Didn't she.

DNC Committee Votes Against Single Payer
https://www.healthcare-now.org/blog/dnc-drafting-committee-votes-against-single-payer/

Democratic consultants fight single payer in CO
https://theintercept.com/2016/05/03/single-payer-dems-colo/

Congressional Democrats Aren’t Feeling the Single-Payer Bern
https://morningconsult.com/2016/02/15/congressional-democrats-arent-feeling-the-single-payer-bern/

And on and on.

Sanders is currently advocating for it, and he and his attempts are routinely attacked on here.

I hope they've all come around, but there's still a huge number of center right Democrats that want everything to have some market solution.

[Demsrule86]

61. People say these things...but he is not popular on the right...and his bill will go exactly

nowhere...it would be better if he introduced a bill that helped with the ACA.

[IronLionZion]

36. Medicare for all

and we already have a bill for it that is ready for debate and voting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_National_Health_Care_Act

[dalton99a]

41. Yes.

Fun Fact: Trump advocated for single-payer healthcare in 2000

[Demsrule86]

44. It can not happen and is a waste of time until we regain power...we can obstruct and be successful

but that's it...and just because we like it doesn't mean the rest of America is sold on it...it will take work. We fix Obamacare, we get a public option...let some big states try first...like California.

[sunonmars]

48. It works, the Uk system is fantastic and you don't miss it from your paypacket

You can walk into an emergency room and not have to worry about if it is going to bankrupt me.

You can go see a local general practice doctor and you dont get a bill before you leave.

Sure if you want to have private healthcare on top to boost, thats fine.

How amazing would that be if people did'nt have to worry about going to see a doctor.

The only thing you do pay a little bit for is dental work. You pay a small charge for nhs dental work but even going private wont break your bank.

This is what you pay in the uk for full coverage, of course it doesnt include non essential shit like elective cosmetic surgery but if its the result of an accident, fire, burns, then they do. You even get free pharmaceutical prescriptions in some areas.

https://www.gov.uk/national-insurance-rates-letters/contribution-rates

[Sgent]

51. To be fair

the ACA for the first time ALLOWED for a single payer system at the state level -- prior to that ERISA, VA and CMS (Medicare and Medicaid) would have destroyed any attempt at forming one within a state.

You couldn't have gotten 50 votes when we passed the ACA for single payer -- hell, we couldn't even get 60 votes to buy into Medicare or lower its age or for a public option.

[Raster]

52. Medicare For ALL!

[still_one]

53. That opportunity was provided to us on November 8

First, Hillary will work with governors to expand Medicaid in every state, so that access to care no longer depends on where you live. It is a disgrace that 19 states have left 3 million Americans without health insurance because their states have refused to expand Medicaid. It is wrong that Republican governors and legislatures are leaving too many Americans without health insurance even though they qualify for coverage. Hillary will launch a national campaign to enroll people who are eligible but not already enrolled. She will expand access to affordable health care to families regardless of immigration status by allowing families to buy health insurance on the health Exchanges regardless of their immigration status.

Second, Hillary will get health care costs under control so that those who have health insurance can afford the health care they need. She will not stand for unjustified health premium increases – she will make sure the Secretary of Health and Human Services has the authority to block or modify unreasonable health insurance premium rate increases so that coverage is more affordable. Hillary has comprehensive plans to address increasing out-of-pocket and prescription drug costs. She will cap prescription drug costs that people have to pay out of pocket, and limit excessive out-of-pocket costs for families. And Hillary will work on long-term solutions to reduce consumer costs of prescription drugs so that these drugs are affordable for all, while not stifling innovation that produces life-saving and life-extending scientific breakthroughs.

Third, consistent with her previous proposals on public options, Hillary will pursue efforts to give Americans in every state in the country the choice of a public-option insurance plan, and to expand Medicare by allowing people 55 years or older to opt in while protecting the traditional Medicare program.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2016/07/09/hillary-clintons-commitment-universal-quality-affordable-health-care-for-everyone-in-america/r-everyone-in-america/

[Demsrule86]

54. We blew it in 16 and one of the consequence is no single payer in the foreeable future...

Those who call for it now are not considering our situation...we have no power... there will be no single payer until Democrats are elected in Congress and to the White House. That should be our priority.

[still_one]

57. We probably would not have gotten it even if we won the WH, but at least we would have been going in

the right direction I believe

[Demsrule86]

58. I think we might have gotten a public option if we took the house and the senate...but

the house was a big up hill climb due to gerrymandering.

[Tom Rinaldo]

56. The sooner we end up there the better, And the more we talk about it...

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...the sooner that will be.