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Stinky The Clown

(67,792 posts)
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 11:31 PM Mar 2017

Is it worth it to try to find common cause with the "old time" Republicans?

By that I mean against the teabaggers.

They got beat today, not by Democrats so much as by the extremists in their party. To be sure, they deserved to lose on this bill to take health care away from millions.

The teabaggers cost Boehner his speakership. Today they hobbled Ryan and 45/140.

In my dream world, Democrats could find common cause with more reasonable Republicans to improve the ACA. The better it gets, the more permanent it becomes.

If we can find that common cause, it might be possible to work with them to get rid of the teabaggers - who hurt them even more than they hurt the country.

I know. I'm probably dreaming.

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Is it worth it to try to find common cause with the "old time" Republicans? (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Mar 2017 OP
They are now all so extreme, I no longer know who is extreeme.. pangaia Mar 2017 #1
It seems there should be some Republicans who would see the value in a health care system that RedWedge Mar 2017 #2
If we were smart we would sell the hell out of their own Republican message. Volaris Mar 2017 #6
No. 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2017 #3
Are there any "old time" Republicans left? The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #4
Are there any "old time" Republicans left? LenaBaby61 Mar 2017 #11
Always worth trying to find a few, but won't count on it. Hoyt Mar 2017 #5
Maybe they can agree on re-naming an L.A. post office after Marvin Gaye pinboy3niner Mar 2017 #7
If you mean pre-Reagan GOPers, they're dying off leftstreet Mar 2017 #8
It's essential. A few of them still exist in the Senate... Hekate Mar 2017 #9
Can't hurt to try Freddie Mar 2017 #10

RedWedge

(618 posts)
2. It seems there should be some Republicans who would see the value in a health care system that
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 11:36 PM
Mar 2017

is completely disconnected from employment, supports entrepreneurial efforts and takes the cost of varying health insurance packages out of goods and services...but I'm not sure how may of them are actually in Congress anymore.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
6. If we were smart we would sell the hell out of their own Republican message.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 11:51 PM
Mar 2017

Co-opt the fuck out of it and use it to get single-payer.

FREEDOM to move jobs.

More and SMALLER BUSINESSES (because to hell with wall st)

The rich in health, help the poor in health--just like Jebus would have wanted it (and we're not gonna sell it unless we get liberal evangelical pastors on board...no more church bake sales for local cancer kid, Rich Uncle Sam has got that covered for you cause he's a stand up guy, that Uncle of yours).

If the Republicans had half a useful brain between the House caucus, it's exactly what they would have done...repealed Obamacare and replaced it with the only thing better..Public OPTION Medicare, and they would have stayed in power for the rest of their unthinking lives, President Fuck-up be dammned.

They dropped the ball on this. If we don't pick it up and run it, we deserve to lose the game.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
11. Are there any "old time" Republicans left?
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 12:58 AM
Mar 2017

Like a needle in a haystack, it's PAST difficult to find a moderate Republican. MOST only care about themselves, don't give a damn about people, and want to make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
7. Maybe they can agree on re-naming an L.A. post office after Marvin Gaye
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 11:52 PM
Mar 2017
A Post Office Named After Marvin Gaye? Congresswoman Says Let’s Get It On

LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — Looking for a little “Mercy, Mercy Me” at the post office?

A new bill introduced on Capitol Hill is calling for a U.S. Postal Service office located at 4040 West Washington Boulevard in Los Angeles to officially be designated the “Marvin Gaye Post Office”.

Introduced by California Congresswoman Karen Bass, HR 1496 would require the South LA facility to be referred to by that specific designation in any “law, map, regulation, document, paper, or other record of the United States”.

...

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/03/23/a-post-office-named-after-marvin-gaye-congresswoman-says-lets-get-it-on/


leftstreet

(36,106 posts)
8. If you mean pre-Reagan GOPers, they're dying off
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 11:56 PM
Mar 2017

The most culturally liberal and fiscally conservative 'Rockefeller Republicans' are pretty old, or gone

Some people think Reagan GOPers were/are 'moderate,' but I don't

Hekate

(90,662 posts)
9. It's essential. A few of them still exist in the Senate...
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 11:57 PM
Mar 2017

...and I believe an appeal to their patriotism and honor (such old fashioned words, I know) with reference to the cyber war by the Russians would have an effect.

Freddie

(9,265 posts)
10. Can't hurt to try
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 12:09 AM
Mar 2017

Reach out to the "Tuesday Group." Some of them really were concerned about how the travesty of a bill would affect their constituents. My congressperson, Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA06) said he was voting no because of the opiate addiction problem in our district. Whether he actually would have done so, who knows. But I was shocked to hear of an R actually putting his constituents before his party. Not that I'd ever vote for him, but still.
The parties working together for the good of the country *actually happened* years ago before the destructive Hastert Rule. It would really look good (if nothing else) for our side to make the first move. Let them say no.

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