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struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 06:18 PM Mar 2017

Presidency could be finished by Russia investigations

Chloe Farand
5 hours ago

... John Schindler, a security expert and former counterintelligence officer, said that if the US President was to face an indictment over allegations his campaign team colluded with Russia to disrupt the presidential election, it could put an end to his presidency.

Speaking to CBC radio, Mr Schindler said: “If, not just people around him, but the president himself is facing possible indictment down the road, that could be a game changer. He could be removed from office for that, whether he wants to be or not."

Mr Schindler said that with the FBI investigation, actions by Congress and a possible independent inquiry, Mr Trump and his team’s alleged ties to Russia would "inevitably" be made public.

“The administration isn’t getting away from this story,” he said ...


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-presidency-finished-russia-investigations-fbi-vladimir-putin-nsa-analyst-john-schindler-a7649371.html

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Presidency could be finished by Russia investigations (Original Post) struggle4progress Mar 2017 OP
Now please. mahina Mar 2017 #1
can't happen quick enough...👍🏼 spanone Mar 2017 #2
Now Now..Please.. HipChick Mar 2017 #3
++++++++++++++++++++ iluvtennis Mar 2017 #11
I can't wait to see who all gets caught in the net. trump, pence, sessions, nunes, bannon, tillerson NightWatcher Mar 2017 #4
Be careful what you wish for . . enid602 Mar 2017 #7
If tRump goes first, Pence picks a new VP. If Pence first, tRump picks a new VP. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #16
Gotta snag Bannon zentrum Mar 2017 #19
It would be nice Dem2 Mar 2017 #5
"it starts to be all over. " lindysalsagal Mar 2017 #6
The shortcut to ending all this is to supoeana his tax returns. randome Mar 2017 #8
+++++++ iluvtennis Mar 2017 #12
Pence must go down, also. He must NOT allowed to become POTUS. madinmaryland Mar 2017 #9
Sitting US President cannot be indicted DonaldsRump Mar 2017 #10
You are right. H2O Man Mar 2017 #18
It will. H2O Man Mar 2017 #13
Reminder: Dumpty cheating with Russia means president is... iluvtennis Mar 2017 #14
Please proceed malaise Mar 2017 #15
I could hit the lottery this week but its about as likely as the cstanleytech Mar 2017 #17

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
4. I can't wait to see who all gets caught in the net. trump, pence, sessions, nunes, bannon, tillerson
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 06:33 PM
Mar 2017

Ryan might end up president nad I honestly think he doesn't want the job. It will be curious if trump tells him to resign so they can pick another Speaker ( and in three months, president )

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
16. If tRump goes first, Pence picks a new VP. If Pence first, tRump picks a new VP.
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 09:08 PM
Mar 2017

In any case, Ryan does not automatically climb the ladder. Further, he wouldn't want to be like Ford was to Nixon (two year term).

Ryan would be fine with a Fordian pick losing to a Democrat in 2020 so he could run in 2024 like Reagan ran against Carter.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
19. Gotta snag Bannon
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 09:19 PM
Mar 2017

....and Sessions.

I suspect Pence was kept out of it, even though Repug, he's garden variety. Like Ryan. McConnell. They just want to destroy the New Deal and get tax reform for the 1%.

lindysalsagal

(20,680 posts)
6. "it starts to be all over. "
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 06:56 PM
Mar 2017
one member of his inner circle away from turning state's evidence and spilling some beans and it starts to be all over.


madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
9. Pence must go down, also. He must NOT allowed to become POTUS.
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 07:16 PM
Mar 2017

He will be worse than tRump.

He is part of the tRump campaign. Guilty.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
10. Sitting US President cannot be indicted
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 07:29 PM
Mar 2017

...they went through this very carefully with Nixon when Leon Jaworkski was the Watergate Special Prosecutor. This is why the Watergate grand jury secretly named Nixon as an unindicted co-conspirator with his cronies.

Jaworski concluded that the only way to indict a President was to impeach and convict on the impeachment, ending the presidency. Then the former president could be indicted for a criminal act.

Not an expert, but I think this is clear-cut. The same doesn't apply for a Vice-President. Spiro Agnew tried this in 1973, but no dice. He pled nolo contendere (i.e., no contest) to tax evasion and resigned. He basically cut a deal to avoid prison by resigning.

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
18. You are right.
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 09:13 PM
Mar 2017

However, RICO violations allow for both criminal and civil charges. Add that President Clinton was forced (incorrectly) to answer civil charges. And the civil proceedings -- including being held responsible -- meets the definition of "high crimes and misdemeanors."

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