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TexasTowelie

(112,145 posts)
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 12:07 AM Mar 2017

Biden says if he'd run for president he could have won

HAMILTON, N.Y. — Former Vice President Joe Biden says that if he had run for president in 2016 he could have won.

Biden told students at Colgate University in central New York on Friday that he could have won the election but the Democratic primary would have been "very difficult."

Biden said his son Beau's battle with brain cancer kept him out of the race.

The Observer-Dispatch of Utica reports (http://bit.ly/2nS1bWc ) that Biden said anyone who runs for president should be able to "look the public in the eye and promise you they can give you 100 percent."

Biden says he doesn't regret not running but added, "Do I regret not being president? Yes."

Read more: http://www.startribune.com/biden-says-if-he-d-run-for-president-he-could-have-won/417105763/

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Biden says if he'd run for president he could have won (Original Post) TexasTowelie Mar 2017 OP
I still want Uncle Joe to take Lil' Donnie out behind the gym! LOL Lib Mar 2017 #1
I think that would be a terrific fundraiser. TexasTowelie Mar 2017 #4
Me either! LOL Lib Mar 2017 #8
If the election is nullified, would Biden become President until an election is held? L. Coyote Mar 2017 #2
There is no way to nullify the election flyingfysh Mar 2017 #5
Until there is. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #7
Lol. No. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2017 #16
No nycbos Mar 2017 #11
Lol. cwydro Mar 2017 #35
He definitely would have won! Pisces Mar 2017 #3
I like Joe luvMIdog Mar 2017 #6
I love Joe dearly....and always will Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #9
I love Joe, too.. but Cha Mar 2017 #10
People tried to twist this back during the primaries.... Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #12
He was referring to the election, not the primary n/t moonscape Mar 2017 #14
I love Joe, but it's time for us to expand our bench. Age wise, geography wise, etc. Warren DeMontague Mar 2017 #13
He would have done far better in the Midwest RoadhogRidesAgain Mar 2017 #15
no, he would not have won Skittles Mar 2017 #17
Agreed. I love Joe Biden but SticksnStones Mar 2017 #23
even without having to put up with misogyny Skittles Mar 2017 #26
I agree. Biden is really not showing very much class with this. This isn't the first time he has still_one Mar 2017 #29
Does he think Russia would have backed him instead of Trump ? delisen Mar 2017 #18
plagiarism would have been number one Skittles Mar 2017 #24
Joe is correct canetoad Mar 2017 #19
I absolutely disagree Skittles Mar 2017 #25
SO easy to say you would have kicked the champ's ass - if you never got in the ring EffieBlack Mar 2017 #36
The primary would have been brutal to him. He has too many skeletons in his closet that most nikibatts Mar 2017 #20
You are darn right he does. The Anita Hill fiasco was a disgrace. In the end, whether he would still_one Mar 2017 #30
You are SO right EffieBlack Mar 2017 #37
Wait, didn't he vote the same way as Hillary Clinton and John Kerry about the Iraq war thing? betsuni Mar 2017 #21
While true there's one very huge difference FDRsGhost Mar 2017 #22
America gave Clinton high approval rating when Secy of State- delisen Mar 2017 #40
Easily. egduj Mar 2017 #27
He could have beaten trump. He would have taken a practical approach The_Casual_Observer Mar 2017 #28
I think he could have won as well. jalan48 Mar 2017 #31
Then why bring it up Biden? What bullshit still_one Mar 2017 #32
Thank you. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #33
Yep. No doubt Biden would have won. ALBliberal Mar 2017 #34
And if Biden had run and lost because of who knows what the Republicans would have done to him EffieBlack Mar 2017 #38
Joe Biden charisma . This is a joke? delisen Mar 2017 #41
Weird so many voted for her, isn't it. Majority of voters must not understand delisen Mar 2017 #42
He would have won the general against Trump HoneyBadger Mar 2017 #39
He keeps coming out and saying that every couple of months Bucky Mar 2017 #43

LOL Lib

(1,462 posts)
1. I still want Uncle Joe to take Lil' Donnie out behind the gym!
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 12:11 AM
Mar 2017

This would literally make me life complete to see Joe punch that orange buffoon.

Edit: Off topic....sorry op!

TexasTowelie

(112,145 posts)
4. I think that would be a terrific fundraiser.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 12:15 AM
Mar 2017

I don't have a lot of money so I'd probably have to take a back row seat, but I wouldn't miss it.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
16. Lol. No.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 03:38 AM
Mar 2017

Everyone on down the line of succession would be a repig.

And mark my words, they will govern like nothing happened and they have a mandate from god to keep gutting this country.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
9. I love Joe dearly....and always will
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 12:28 AM
Mar 2017

But I don't think he would have won the primary, just my opinion. That being said, we still need his voice, and I welcome it whenever it's offered!

Cha

(297,180 posts)
10. I love Joe, too.. but
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 12:54 AM
Mar 2017

this isn't helping.

The only reason he might have won is "misogyny" are the part of too many.. in my opinion.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
12. People tried to twist this back during the primaries....
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 01:05 AM
Mar 2017

But there was a great article that talked about Barack and Joes relationship and there was a discussion in the piece about Joe running and Barack met him man to man and asked him not to do it. Now, like I said, this was twisted by some to suggest that Obama had an ultimate loyalty to the Clinton's, but I think that perspective is extremely short sided and, frankly, wrong. Barack knew the pain that Joe was experiencing, and he knew the toll a campaign would have on him. These two men love/loved each other like brothers and I think Barack was looking out for Joe's best interests. In retrospect, Joe is being Joe by suggesting that he could have one...knowing his career, that doesn't offend me in the least. But, there's no way, given the fact that during that time he was so far behind in fundraising and organizing that he could have organized a winning campaign. Barack knew that..and went to him as a friend to convince him of that. Sadly, I think Joe knows that as well. Like I said, I love Joe, but in this instance I think he's wrong.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
13. I love Joe, but it's time for us to expand our bench. Age wise, geography wise, etc.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 01:08 AM
Mar 2017

We need someone young and from the West coast, like Gavin Newsom or Kamala Harris.

And no more drug warriors. Sorry, Joe.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
23. Agreed. I love Joe Biden but
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 07:03 AM
Mar 2017

Monday Morning Quarterbacking is pointless and frankly, I find it a bit disrespectful toward HRC.

It's funny how candidates and politicians who didn't have to run the republican gauntlet that was this last election process all think they could have done it better and won.

still_one

(92,183 posts)
29. I agree. Biden is really not showing very much class with this. This isn't the first time he has
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 11:36 PM
Mar 2017

brought this up. If Biden wants to run let him do it in 2020. What coulda or shoulda, is just bullshit

delisen

(6,042 posts)
18. Does he think Russia would have backed him instead of Trump ?
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 04:56 AM
Mar 2017

I can see the endless ad now of Joseph Biden making fun of that unfortunte working class plumber. in 2008

I am weary of the "I could have been a contender" comments from Democrats who do not address what opposition research would reveal that the opposition would manipulate to use against them and how they would counter it; how they would deal with foreign influence.

For Joe Biden, there would be his stance on bank credit card industry-major employer in Delaware.

I am very sympathetic toward Joseph Biden. He has endured immense personal tragedy works hard and ia reliable. He is a good person.

I would like to hear his opinion on why Al Gore and John Kerry were not winners.









 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
36. SO easy to say you would have kicked the champ's ass - if you never got in the ring
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 02:26 AM
Mar 2017

Joe looks pretty now because no one campaigned against him. But he'd look a lot different now after the Republicans, Trump and the Russians got finished with him.

 

nikibatts

(2,198 posts)
20. The primary would have been brutal to him. He has too many skeletons in his closet that most
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 05:50 AM
Mar 2017

people tend to forget. The attacks would have been almost as bad as they were for Hillary. (Plagiarism, Anita Hill for starters.) He may have garnered s huge sympathy vote to counter but the GOP are very nasty people.

That said, I think it is beneath him to say the "I could have won" mantra now. It isn't helpful when the Democrats need to be a unified as possible going forward.

still_one

(92,183 posts)
30. You are darn right he does. The Anita Hill fiasco was a disgrace. In the end, whether he would
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 11:41 PM
Mar 2017

have won or not is meaningless because that is not what happened. He made a choice, in my view the right choice, to spend time with his son. Now he has brought this up several times as though he regrets that choice. That really doesn't make him look very good.

If he wants to give it a try in 2020, all the power to him, but it really is tiresome for him to keep bringing up, "if only"

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
37. You are SO right
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 02:27 AM
Mar 2017

The Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas debacle alone would have been a huge anchor around him.

And while his off-beat, sometimes bizarre comments are endearing to many, his penchant for saying weird things could likely have gotten him to all kinds of trouble in a campaign when he's on top of the ticket. Wacky Joe is kind of cute when Obama is his adult supervision. But as the leader of the pack, not so much.

betsuni

(25,475 posts)
21. Wait, didn't he vote the same way as Hillary Clinton and John Kerry about the Iraq war thing?
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 06:38 AM
Mar 2017

Wouldn't that make him a horrible warmonger? Hasn't he been in government since, like, the '70s? Hello, "establishment." What about his so-called gaffe problem? Trade agreements? I don't know, I think the media would've done a number on him. Unless there's some sort of double standard.



 

FDRsGhost

(470 posts)
22. While true there's one very huge difference
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 06:47 AM
Mar 2017

America trusts him & he's liked by many people far and wide sans the ones with Obama derangement syndrome.

delisen

(6,042 posts)
40. America gave Clinton high approval rating when Secy of State-
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 04:54 AM
Mar 2017

This "If I had run, I would have won" syndrome is ego braggadocio talk and is demeaning to the politicians who engage in it. Sounds like sports channels analysis.

He did not run, therefore he could not win.

I am embarrassed for him that he would make this empty boast.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
28. He could have beaten trump. He would have taken a practical approach
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 11:29 PM
Mar 2017

To the lies and bullshit unlike Hillary.

ALBliberal

(2,339 posts)
34. Yep. No doubt Biden would have won.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 01:42 AM
Mar 2017

I voted for Hillary... but she isnt a great campaigner. Smart as a whip and so very experienced.... but doesn't have the charisma factor. Charisma is needed in this political age. Joe Biden has it.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
38. And if Biden had run and lost because of who knows what the Republicans would have done to him
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 02:33 AM
Mar 2017

folks arouund here would be saying, "we should have nominated Hillary instead of Joe."

Woulda coulda shoulda ...

delisen

(6,042 posts)
42. Weird so many voted for her, isn't it. Majority of voters must not understand
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 05:07 AM
Mar 2017

your premise that they need to vote "charisma" factor.

Too many, I guess, have been voting competence.

....and who can explain Angela Merckel???






 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
39. He would have won the general against Trump
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 03:37 AM
Mar 2017

And he would have won the primary if Hillary did not run. The primary has nothing to do with the general.

Bucky

(53,998 posts)
43. He keeps coming out and saying that every couple of months
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 06:47 AM
Mar 2017

I kind of agree with him, but it's a silly thing to keep on repeating. Mostly because it doesn't matter now. I think him thinking about it that much is a measurement of his frustration at watching the country he loves get bamboozled and trashed by a classless idiot

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