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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 07:00 AM Mar 2017

Trump sabotaging Obamacare? Yeah... That would be unconstitutional and violate his oath of office.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/25/1647327/-Dem-Rep-Calls-Out-Trump-s-Tweet-Hoping-Obamacare-Will-Explode-As-Unconstitutional-And-Evil

Trump's petulant response to the colossal and dismal failure of the first significant test of his Presidency was to callously express his hope that the Affordable Care Act (“Obamacare”) would “explode,” thus paving the way for whatever imaginary legislation he claims could replace it.

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However, Trump is obligated by his oath of office (whether or not he bothered to pay attention to that oath) to faithfully execute the laws of the United States. That is explicit in Article II of this country’s Constitution, and is known as the “Take Care” Clause:

The President must "take care that the laws be faithfully executed."[24] This clause in the Constitution imposes a duty on the President to enforce the laws of the United States and is called the Take Care Clause,[25] also known as the Faithful Execution Clause[26] or Faithfully Executed Clause.[27] This clause is meant to ensure that a law is faithfully executed by the President [25] even if he disagrees with the purpose of that law.[28]


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The Constitution obligates this President to ensure that the Affordable Care Act is faithfully executed. Failure to do so is a violation of any President’s oath of office, and a violation of the Constitution.
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Trump sabotaging Obamacare? Yeah... That would be unconstitutional and violate his oath of office. (Original Post) DetlefK Mar 2017 OP
If the House didn't fund parts or all of the ACA, wouldn't this also be a violation of their Oath of no_hypocrisy Mar 2017 #1
IOKIYAR raging moderate Mar 2017 #2
No. onenote Mar 2017 #5
Not if they pass bills to destroy it yeoman6987 Mar 2017 #8
He can veto the bills FYI, yeoman6987. Kingofalldems Mar 2017 #10
It's the law of OUR land C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #3
You say that as if it would stop him. Squinch Mar 2017 #4
The President must "take care that the laws be faithfully executed." sheshe2 Mar 2017 #7
Of course the faithfully execute provision has never been read that literally onenote Mar 2017 #6
The GOP doesn't give a damn about any "Take Care" Clause. They should have doc03 Mar 2017 #9
Presidents for awhile now have not enforced the Sherman anti-trust act... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #11

no_hypocrisy

(46,088 posts)
1. If the House didn't fund parts or all of the ACA, wouldn't this also be a violation of their Oath of
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 07:05 AM
Mar 2017

Office?

C_U_L8R

(45,000 posts)
3. It's the law of OUR land
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 07:59 AM
Mar 2017

And Little Lord TrumpLeRoi doesn't get to pick and choose which laws he's going to uphold.

sheshe2

(83,748 posts)
7. The President must "take care that the laws be faithfully executed."
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 08:58 AM
Mar 2017

He must think "faithfully executed" means 'faithfully Kill' the law.

Just saying.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
6. Of course the faithfully execute provision has never been read that literally
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 08:27 AM
Mar 2017


President's have leeway in how they "execute" the laws of the land, which is how, for example, President Obama could make judgment calls about how to execute the nation's immigration laws.

Even more on point - you're making essentially the same argument the Republicans made when they sued Obama for delaying the ACA's employer mandate provision's effective date. The Republicans lost that claim, with the court stating U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia dismissed this part of the lawsuit. "if [the Republicans arguments] were accepted, every instance of an extra-statutory action by an executive officer might constitute a cognizable constitutional violation, redressable by Congress through a lawsuit. Such a conclusion would contradict decades of administrative law and precedent."

Trump should be condemned for undermining the ACA not because its unconstitutional for him to do so, but because it's heartless.

doc03

(35,328 posts)
9. The GOP doesn't give a damn about any "Take Care" Clause. They should have
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 10:15 AM
Mar 2017

had hearings on the seat in SCOTUS but didn't and got away with it.

 

Talk Is Cheap

(389 posts)
11. Presidents for awhile now have not enforced the Sherman anti-trust act...
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 01:15 PM
Mar 2017

Since Reagan....

Unfortunately, a president can simply not enforce laws on the books...

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