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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 11:57 AM Mar 2017

Ted Koppel Tells Sean Hannity He Thinks He's Bad for America

by Josh Feldman | 11:41 am, March 26th, 2017

CBS Sunday Morning today featured a piece from Ted Koppel on America’s serious divisions and a back-and-forth between Koppel and Fox News’ Sean Hannity on the subject.

Koppel opened by talking about the “alternate universes” Americans are living in these days, running clips of people like Hannity, John Oliver, and Tomi Lahren in talking about the people who are “driving the country further and further apart.”

Part of Koppel’s report focused on the rise of conservative media and the influence it’s played on the current state of American politics, citing Rush Limbaugh in particular.

In the snippet of the interview that aired during the segment, Hannity told Koppel that he needs to give the American people a little more credit––that they can distinguish between news and opinion programming.

He sensed Koppel’s cynicism and asked, “You think we’re bad for America? You think I’m bad for America?”

Koppel said, “Yeah.”

Hannity told him “that’s sad” and reiterated his belief that he’s “selling the American people short.”

Koppel offered Hannity a partial compliment by saying he’s very good at what he does, but added that he’s also “attracted people who are determined that ideology is more important than facts.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ted-koppel-tells-sean-hannity-he-thinks-hes-bad-for-america/

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Ted Koppel Tells Sean Hannity He Thinks He's Bad for America (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2017 OP
I watched the segment and came away thinking SticksnStones Mar 2017 #1
yup, I couldn't watch it all, because that was the same bullshit that I was hearing with the false still_one Mar 2017 #3
I almost turned it off once seeing Hannity's big old head SticksnStones Mar 2017 #4
Maybe I will give it a go later on an empty stomach still_one Mar 2017 #5
Or wait until after the midterms... SticksnStones Mar 2017 #8
thanks for the advice still_one Mar 2017 #10
Good one! JEFF9K Mar 2017 #9
Hannity and Koppel - two of the biggest heads on television. klook Mar 2017 #22
Truth. SticksnStones Mar 2017 #25
Thank You for posting....k and r.. Stuart G Mar 2017 #2
One of these things is not like the others! John Oliver does not fit in that crowd. nt tblue37 Mar 2017 #6
Comedians are not political pundits Generic Brad Mar 2017 #16
Besides, Oliver does not lie, and he actually does long-form journalism about tblue37 Mar 2017 #17
Maybe that was his point. Xolodno Mar 2017 #29
"Bad for America" certainly pays well! nt JEFF9K Mar 2017 #7
Someone needs to get Jon Stewart back to troll Hannity Jonny Appleseed Mar 2017 #11
Geez, I really miss the Fairness Doctrine benld74 Mar 2017 #12
Killed by the FCC in 1987 (appeal denied in '89) - klook Mar 2017 #23
Agreed c-rational Mar 2017 #30
It Was. Repubs, jrthin Mar 2017 #31
welcome to DU gopiscrap Mar 2017 #32
Conservatives: (barking at the moon) JHB Mar 2017 #13
well, republican propagandists ARE good for RUSSIA Achilleaze Mar 2017 #14
Koppel's been a both-siderist for years--unwatchable imo-- truebluegreen Mar 2017 #15
thanks Ted! mdbl Mar 2017 #18
+1000 smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #20
John Oilver was zentrum Mar 2017 #19
along these lines MTP is having Hugh Hewitt on again Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #21
here's all you need to know about that slimy, craven faux journalist: Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #24
Hannity is a "for hire" propagandist for the right. democratisphere Mar 2017 #26
"liberalism has to be defeated... socialism has to be defeated". lambchopp59 Mar 2017 #27
"He Thinks"... Snackshack Mar 2017 #28

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
1. I watched the segment and came away thinking
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 12:02 PM
Mar 2017

There's still this "both sides do it" narrative. Yes he pushed back hard on Hannity (hallelujah!) but as long as facts are still seen as having a liberal slant there will never be a coming together or any kind of healing the divide.

And Koppel certainly showed there's a career to be had in stirring the pot.



still_one

(92,492 posts)
3. yup, I couldn't watch it all, because that was the same bullshit that I was hearing with the false
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 12:04 PM
Mar 2017

equivalency narrative.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
4. I almost turned it off once seeing Hannity's big old head
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 12:12 PM
Mar 2017

But my hands were full so it ran.

And Koppel's push back was one for the ages. But it gets surrounded by that "both sides" narrative ~

Nothing will be healed until FACTS are valued once again. It's not enough to claim well there's a difference between reporting and punditry.

Facts are Facts are Facts regardless of the delivery system!

klook

(12,173 posts)
22. Hannity and Koppel - two of the biggest heads on television.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 02:21 PM
Mar 2017

Big difference is that inside Hannity's there's a lot of empty space with a squirrel-sized brain rattling around.

benld74

(9,911 posts)
12. Geez, I really miss the Fairness Doctrine
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 12:21 PM
Mar 2017

Wonder where the push came from to have
The FCC to remove it
Any takers???

klook

(12,173 posts)
23. Killed by the FCC in 1987 (appeal denied in '89) -
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 02:29 PM
Mar 2017

4-0 vote by a commission composed of 3 Reagan appointees and 1 Nixon appointee. See Syracuse Peace Council decision.

c-rational

(2,600 posts)
30. Agreed
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 04:54 PM
Mar 2017

Missing the Fairness Doctrine.... Wasn't it Reagan that got rid of it? Time to bring it back.

JHB

(37,163 posts)
13. Conservatives: (barking at the moon)
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 12:30 PM
Mar 2017

Liberals: "Oh my God, they're literally barking at the moon!"

Koppel: "Both sides have turned the volume way up."

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
14. well, republican propagandists ARE good for RUSSIA
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 12:33 PM
Mar 2017

and, of course, as all honest and decent people know, republican propagandists like Hannity are toxic for America. They really suck. And America is paying the price.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
15. Koppel's been a both-siderist for years--unwatchable imo--
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 12:42 PM
Mar 2017

as has much of the media. I credit/blame the insidious "fair and balanced" BS and even worse, "we report, you decide"--as if "you deciding" has anything to do with reality.

And yeah, lumping John Oliver in with Hannity?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
20. +1000
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 01:57 PM
Mar 2017

Thank you Ted! I wish Sean would take your words to heart, but the miserable ratfu**er will never see the error of his ways.

zentrum

(9,866 posts)
19. John Oilver was
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 01:54 PM
Mar 2017

....equated to Hannity? What tripe.

Have lost all respect for Koppel's powers of critical thinking and ability to distinguish true harm from satire and what is and is not false equivalency.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
24. here's all you need to know about that slimy, craven faux journalist:
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 02:36 PM
Mar 2017
https://www.democracynow.org/2004/7/29/abcs_ted_koppel_refuses_to_apologize

AMY GOODMAN: Do you think that the ABC and the other networks should apologize for providing an uncritical forum for the administration to lay out their unsubstantiated claims of weapons of mass destruction?

TED KOPPEL: I am glad you phrased your question so nicely. No, I don’t think an apology is due if what you are saying is could we all have been more critical? I think the answer is yes. I must tell you, I am going to be responsive in behalf of Nightline over which I do have some control. We did do a 90-minute town hall meeting, the title of which was Why Now? and the essence of which was: Where is the evidence that there’s an immediate danger to the United States? Did we do enough programs like that? I concede we did not. But that’s a function of perhaps incompetence on my part, but certainly not ill will and I will try and do better the next time, but I don’t think I need to apologize for it.


plenty more after that
why anyone thinks this guy deserves any sort of respect has always been way beyond me, starting with that ''america held hostage'' BS.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
27. "liberalism has to be defeated... socialism has to be defeated".
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 03:26 PM
Mar 2017

So much for "fair and balanced" Hannity! Couldn't help but notice later in the interview, Sean also started to pull one of Faux Noise's tricks: interrupt the guest when he/she starts proposing something factual or down to earth and turn the narrative back to the narrow "talking points" slant. Sean graciously (cough) stopped, being the guest there, and perhaps a glimmer of politeness he's unaccustomed to shone through in deference to the elder interviewer.
Sean's admission here, albeit nauseatingly obvious anyway, is disturbing at least. In a Sean Hannity world, the poor would starve, the working class would be enslaved and eventually there would be very few left with the means to even hear his bloviating. "Higher education" would consist of reinforcing corporate based lies, and we'd be on even a faster track to global warming annihilation than we already are.
The truly, nauseatingly "SAD" part about the RW's sucking up to the corporatists?:
Is how truly insane they'll appear when nature gives us all the smack down.

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