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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm 60 years old
I'm not sure younger people understand Russia.
Maybe I'm stereotyping but I think younger folks think us baby boomers are too "reactionary" about Russia considering what we went through...duck and cover drills in elementary school come to mind.
The Russian people are suffering under a brutally repressive governmental system that most Republicans envy and confuse with "strength". And based on the Trump Administration they apparently want a similar system for us right here in the USA.
Get active. Support those standing up inside Russia (insane bravery).
And everywhere around this world.
Trump cannot stand!
We want our country back.
samnsara
(17,622 posts)DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)watch Rachel and get a history lesson. Seems like that is actually happening given her ratings, people want to understand the enemy.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Yes she's beating others but for knowledge about Russia about 300 million need to watch.
Kingofalldems
(38,454 posts)You posted the exact same meme last week.
RandiFan1290
(6,232 posts)Thanks Admins!
TexasBushwhacker
(20,185 posts)than previous leaders. Maybe it's just my memory.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)Stalin, who was before my time, was even scarier. Russia has never had a true democracy or a leader who wasn't an autocrat of some sort. Hundreds of years of czars were followed by Lenin, Molotov, Stalin, Malenkov, Bulganin, Kosygin, Brezhnev, Podgorny, Andropov, Chernenko, Gorbachev, Putin - just varying degrees of scary. Putin is probably the scariest since Kosygin but I wouldn't trust any of them not to sprinkle polonium in my Lipton.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,185 posts)in high school, and that was a loooong time ago. Of course, my awareness of foreign figures is exponentially higher since the birth of the interweb.
murielm99
(30,736 posts)He blinked first. We came very close to nuclear war during that time. I was fourteen, and thought I would not see fifteen.
We were stronger than them at the time. We still are, in every way. Putin knows it, and wants to destabilize us. He is succeeding in destabilizing the West and this country. We are losing our credibility. That is the only way he can strengthen himself and he knows it. We need someone with some moral fiber to contain him.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)...but the difference is that they didn't have a stooge in the White House.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,185 posts)kacekwl
(7,016 posts)and his stooges.
renegade000
(2,301 posts)It's because I find Putin's brand of autocracy way more plausible in the US than a totalitarian regime like the USSR or Nazi Germany.
Fox News is already raring to go as our RT counterpart...
I remember dreams of missiles launching all around me.
KT2000
(20,577 posts)with younger people. It was a huge issue for all of our formative years. It is a new issue for the young.
What I cannot figure out is how the people our age who are tRump voters, consider this a non-issue. It just does not make sense. Whatever happened to "commies?" I guess it is just the Democrats who are considered such.
roscoeroscoe
(1,370 posts)butdiduvote
(284 posts)I find it hard to really know just how seriously to take this threat because the messages I'm getting from everywhere are so contradicting. It's like you look over here, and everyone's freaking out about how we're going to go to literal war with Russia and hundreds of people have already been killed, and then you look over there and everyone is calm and collected and thinks this threat is nothing we can't handle. I just don't know what to think. I wish there was more transparency in our agencies right now so I could better understand what is going on.
KT2000
(20,577 posts)Russia is co-opting America.
jmbar2
(4,874 posts)We have our pink hats, they have their ducks. We have a lot in common. How do we show them our support?
IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)like cyber warfare and targeted assassinations and human rights violations. I don't expect nuclear missiles launched at the US anytime soon but we have all seen them wade into neighboring countries like Ukraine, Georgia, and Syria to show off their military might.
For most of my life people have been warning about China's military but they have mostly done cyber attacks not conventional warfare. Their military is still very inexperienced compared to the US. Russia's been using their military influence all over the place. It's like they have something to prove.
I was born near the end of Reagan's first term.
Omaha Steve
(99,618 posts)I remember the duck and cover drills during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
As close as we were to ground zero (Offut Air Base-SAC) it would not have made any difference.
My mom worked on the Enola Gay when it was built there. The Martin Bomber plant is still in use on the base.
http://www.offutt.af.mil/
tech3149
(4,452 posts)or at least open your exposure to a broader base of history than what is generally accepted. Are the Russian people suffering? Yes, just as much as we are and for very similar reasons.
Until we dropped the first atomic bombs on Japan the Soviet Union was part of the Allied forces fighting against Nazi Germany. The last election of FDR was a putsch to install a political hack to replace a progressive vice presidential candidate. Had that not happened we would have most likely had the Soviet Union as a continuing ally in defeating Japan.
In all of the most serious confrontations since that time, the factor saving us has always been a back channel communication that allowed our leaders to agree that we all wanted a saner world that would not be a threat to our existence. These were always in opposition to major policy makers on both sides. Those policy makers were all about "us or them" without considering that there were other possibilities.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)vice presidential candidate."
What are you saying?
ProfessorGAC
(65,010 posts)What the heck does that even mean? Truman was a political hack? In which parallel universe?
Duppers
(28,120 posts)I've a problem cutting these naive kids any slack, since there is so much info in the current media and press.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)I am young yeah but.. I know what you are talking about. So, yeah. But I once had a Russian girl friend, she was so competitive and the stuff she said about the USA made me laugh. They have no clue what we are about. Totally no clue. She loves Putin. She thinks he is the epic picture of sexiness. She hated Obama.. we're no longer together but I am sure she thinks Trump is a fool, because why not? The Entire planet knows we picked the wrong person to run this country. Unfortunately, a few here in America never got that memo.
Now even Trump supporters are having doubts, except for the Stupid ones that want to live under a dictatorship, Putin style.
Yeah I have read history books. I have talked to older people around where I live. I know Grandmothers who had been held in the Internment Camps. He has to go, or it will be just like that all over again, and I for one have no desire to give up my meager life style to live a wooden shack holding cell.
duncang
(1,907 posts)When seeing Ted Koppel the other day and some of the even older news people talking about this WH. I also wonder what some of the even older and deceased news media would have said about it. They were the people a lot of us turned to for clarity through the years. They always kept so calm and projected a sense of right and wrong about what was happening in days past. I think even they would be horrified and not able to keep that calm look on their faces.