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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPalmer: FBI arrests ten people in New York City with alleged ties to Donald Trump and Russian mafia
http://www.palmerreport.com/news/fbi-arrests-ten-people-in-new-york-city-with-alleged-ties-to-donald-trump-and-russian-mafia/2090/The FBI and NYPD Joint Organized Crime Task Force have arrested ten men in New York City today on charges of running a racketeering conspiracy as part of an organized crime effort. Whats notable is that these men and their crime family have alleged ties to the Russian mafia and to Donald Trump raising the question of whether this move was made as part of the FBIs ongoing investigation into Trump and Russia.
The ten men arrested today are associates of the Bonanno organized crime family (source: NBC New York). But a bit of digging by the Democratic Coalition Against Trump has revealed that a lawsuit alleges that same crime family is partnered with Russian businessman Felix Sater (link). Sater has a long history of financial ties to both Donald Trump and the Russian mafia, and in fact has done prison time for his Russian mafia ties (source: Esquire). So its not difficult to draw a straight line from todays arrests to Trump and Russia. But what is the FBI suddenly up to?
If todays ten FBI-NYPD arrests are indeed related to the FBIs Trump-Russia investigation, as the connections suggest, it may be an instance of rounding up the lower level mafia associates in order to see which of them is willing to cut a deal by selling out their bosses. This could also be a sign that the FBI is further along in its Trump-Russia investigation than had been believed, having completed its phase of gathering information externally, in favor of a phase of actively prompting little fish to flip on bigger fish, presumably leading all the way up to Trump and his direct associates.
moondust
(20,016 posts)Tess49
(1,580 posts)flamingdem
(39,332 posts)Here's lingo from Russian gangsters:
Blatnoi/blatnye: a catch-all term used by hoodlums to refer to themselves and their ('blatnoi' way of life (via)
Bratki: brothers
Brodyagi: a criminal caste below vor, vagabonds
Derbanit: to racket, to destroy property (via)
Grokhnut: to shoot; literally to bang (sound); one of several slang words for killing; others below.
Mafyia: mafia
Mussor: cop (literally garbage)
Nayekhat: raid/apply gang pressure, extort
Obut: to deceive, to cheat
Pakhan: crime boss
Ponitka: unwritten law, code of thieves
Posadit na pika: to stab to death, to cut with with a knife (literally, "to put on a pike" (via)
Prishli mne kaputsu: literally, "send me a cabbage," this term means you are owed a favor
Razboiniki: gang warriors
Razborka: to use force to settle a conflict
Roskrychivat': to scheme, commit fraud, etc.
Shalit: make mischief
Strelka: a sitdown between two or more mob groups
Suka (sing.) / suki (plural): Literally bitch, it refers to a member of the mafiya who snitches to the government.
Torpedo: contract killer (via)
Vor v zakonye: Thief in law, like a "wiseguy"
Vorovskoi mir: Thieves' world
vzyat: to harass/rob; literally take, as in vzyat lariok (hit up a kiosk). Also means in slang, to take bribes.
Zakazat: to order a hit
moondust
(20,016 posts)Hekate
(90,865 posts)Orrex
(63,233 posts)We should all brush up!
Lucky Luciano
(11,264 posts)Volaris
(10,275 posts)Go slow, FBI and IC community, and get this one right for us. I want EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ONE of these racist traitors behind bars or barred from Public Service for the rest of their lives (and don't kid yourself, this happened because they're pissed that a black man beat them at their own game for 8 years. They SOLD OUT THEIR OWN COUNTRY, just to Make America White Again.).
Fuck em. We DESERVE heads on spikes for this.
flamingdem
(39,332 posts)but it sure looks promising
sheshe2
(83,953 posts)The dark side comes to light.
flamingdem
(39,332 posts)This is going to be movie fodder for decades!
Take them down!
democrank
(11,112 posts)let's hope at least one of these birds start singing.
flamingdem
(39,332 posts)Warpy
(111,383 posts)but I doubt if they'll get a peep out of that buzzard. The only way they'll get the small fish to talk is to convince at least one of them that one of the big fish gave them up. Even then, it's unlikely, the Russian mob is a scary bunch.
I'm afraid they'll have to build their case without dramatic confessions.
pecosbob
(7,545 posts)Wow!
Jonny Appleseed
(960 posts)They're the ones that conspired with Giuliani and Flynn to prompt Comey to send that letter to congress. The investigation is still ongoing into certain agents and the illegal back and forth of information between them and Giuliani last November.
So not to rain on anyone's parade, but yeah...
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,156 posts)I agree. And if this turns out to be nothing, can we please stop taking Palmerreport seriously?
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,347 posts)but this seems more like organized crime agents.
And it seems hyped.
So we shall see.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Jonny Appleseed
(960 posts)uponit7771
(90,367 posts)ecstatic
(32,747 posts)Incredibly, Trump still has access to (and control of?) the FBI via his lap dog/boy, Sessions.
flamingdem
(39,332 posts)Can't find anything else on this story, should be something tomorrow.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Man he does like to stretch stuff from others opinions of reports...so annoying!
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)Since Putin is killing everyone connected with Trump over there, maybe these are the guys that Trump would use over here.
flamingdem
(39,332 posts)in Russia. It's crazy and would happen to these guys if they're involved and likely to sing.
Blue_Roses
(12,894 posts)Haven't heard this news yet...good grief...
bdamomma
(63,931 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)(Radio Free Europe website)
flamingdem
(39,332 posts)bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)Is this Palmer guy ever right?
Why should I believe some guy who asks me to donate to his website at the end of his news articles? lol
Sounds more like clickbait to me-- Let's write up a snazzy headline so all the anti-Trump people will share my story.
flamingdem
(39,332 posts)We'll see tomorrow if there are other reports, in this case he can be faster than news sources but always read him w plenty of salt
ButSeeYa
(273 posts)Trying to figure out how to correctly add link. Hopefully, the below works.
[link:https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/NYC-Feds-FBI-Arrest-10-Bonanno-Crime-Family-Ronald-Giallanzo-417367823.html%3Famp%3Dy|
drm604
(16,230 posts)The crimes mentioned are typical Mafia fare; loansharking, illegal gambling, robbery, and extortion.
It does not mention Trump, Russia, or Russians.
The Palmer Report may be adding unsubstantiated spin to the story.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)I'm tired of fake news sites.
DFW
(54,448 posts)Well, not quite, but definitely on the way!
murielm99
(30,777 posts)Are there other sources reporting this?
mythology
(9,527 posts)Palmer is the one connecting it to Trump and Palmer has absolutely no credibility.
ATL Ebony
(1,097 posts)Palmer Report seems desperate for relevancy -- maybe they should contact MSM about this as well.
ATL Ebony
(1,097 posts)This is the referenced FBI mob snag, Palmer just seems to connect the dots to Trump.
"Feds Arrest 10 Bonanno Organized Crime Family Members and Associates"
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)For instance, the iron workers are generally the construction guys that build skyscrapers. There is a someone with the right last name on their payroll. Trump builds skyscrapers.
https://www.unionfacts.com/employee/Iron_Workers/JAMES/BONANNO
mopinko
(70,268 posts)i was a union carpenter in my youth, and it was apparent to all that the union dues were way to high. to allow for some skimming, we all assumed.
especially in construction, they were built w thuggery. it wasnt just the teamsters. we were regaled by stories from our instructors in the classroom half of the program about how they policed strikes. some thought they were funny. some of us wondered just who were hitched to.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)You can support your premise with objective rather than anecdotal evidence, yes?
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)Specifically a RICO case
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)and the Russian mob.
http://usat.ly/2nJOUCJ
Geez, I wish this were out there 5 months ago.
At least Comey probably knew it, but he was so busy with those damned duplicate emails.
As far as rhe Russian interference in our elections even Dick Cheney called it , as "act of war."
Comey didn't tell us about that either...just tbose pesky emails.
Comey for jail.
Johni Imtiaz
(2 posts)This is very nice and decent post you rocked posting it thanks a lot for posting it....!!
uppityperson
(115,681 posts)I'm confused about what you mean.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]
flamingdem
(39,332 posts)The only truth you'll get from Trump is in the returns, and even that is 70% fiction
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)FBI pissing in the KGOpee's anti-American gravy train...
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)Please let this run up the chain soon so he can just go already...
lpbk2713
(42,769 posts)...
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)He is hyper-partisan, to be sure, and uses clickbait writing to draw in readers to his donate button. There is nothing wrong with getting paid to be an investigative reporter, but it is also important to recognize who is in the genre and who is not. At least the people with donate buttons are not hiding their partisan political income sources.
Here is a better place to donate:
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kentuck
(111,110 posts)When did it happen?
jmg257
(11,996 posts)]http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/what-the-cia-and-fbi-knew-about-trump-before-2016/
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The federal government also kept Sater on as a cooperating witness for fully 11 years before finally sentencing him in 2009 for the plea deal in 1998. In a $42 million securities fraud case, Sater received no jail time, was not forced to pay restitution and was fined a mere $25,000. In other words, he walked away from the crime with close to no punishment. The controversy over the government's secrecy in the Sater case, as well as his minimal punishment, got enough attention that it eventually bubbled up from the criminal courts to the governmental and political realm. During her 2015 confirmation hearings, Attorney General Loretta Lynch was asked about the propriety of the government's cooperation with Sater, in part because she had been the US Attorney for the Eastern District of New York, where Sater's case was adjudicated.
In response to questions from Sen. Orin Hatch, Lynch wrote (emphasis added):
The defendant in question, Felix Sater, provided valuable and sensitive information to the government during the course of his cooperation, which began in or about December 1998. For more than 10 years, he worked with prosecutors from my Office, the United States Attorneys Office for the Southern District of New York and law enforcement agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation and other law enforcement agencies, providing information crucial to national security and the conviction of over 20 individuals, including those responsible for committing massive financial fraud and members of La Cosa Nostra. For that reason, his case was initially sealed.
...
The federal government knew who Sater was, his ties to the criminal underworld, business ties into that world in the former Soviet Union, etc. They also had to know of his deep and longstanding association with Donald Trump, his key role in numerous Trump projects during the first decade of this century and his role arranging financing for these projects. We don't know if the federal government had specific knowledge of the details of these business transactions or whether or how deeply Donald Trump was reliant on capital from Russia and more generally the murky world of oligarchs and underworlds that Sater is clearly immersed in and from which he appeared to draw investment capital. But they likely would have suspected as much, at least that Trump had uncomfortably close ties to someone like Sater.
He is a real winner that Slater guy. He could definitely have some good stuff on trump, and he's played all sides before to get off easy.
Turbineguy
(37,374 posts)too much butter.
Yum!
Zambero
(8,974 posts)A long Uber ride gets him there, and the driver can just let Nunes off at some undisclosed location where he can proceed to "enter the grounds" and then conduct a ludicrous news conference thereafter. What the heck, he cleared his schedule. No hearings, and no committee meetings on top. Does he have anything better to do than act like the usual (useful?) idiot that he is ?
ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)Treason. Hang them by the neck until dead.
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)we got rid of you during the recounts...go bye bye....not a good source, just a blogger like us.
FSogol
(45,555 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)NewRedDawn
(790 posts)Right out of the Sopranos when Paulie & Christopher tried to kill a Russian mobster & got lost in the woods. The Russian got away & the 2 morons lost their car was winter, & the Russian they had in the trunk & thought was dead, clobbered them . Funny episode.