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And even the conservatives are starting the drum beat.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446179/devin-nunes-trump-surveillance-campaign-investigation-house-intel-committee-russia
David French March 28, 2017 2:45 PM
Nuness unforced errors have undermined public faith.
Lets begin with two assertions, both of which should be inarguable. First, no one in Washington is entitled to any position of power or responsibility. Second, the greater the power or responsibility, the more integrity, character, and crucially competence we should expect from our public officials. Or, to put it plainly, to whom much is given, much is required.
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Just at the time when the nation desperately needs adults to step forward who can give the public confidence that they not only understand the stakes of the Russia investigation, they also can be entrusted to conduct that investigation in good faith, Nunes unnecessarily poured gasoline on an already-raging fire. The American body politic is awash in conspiracy theories, mistrust, and wild claims of espionage and criminality. It needs leaders. It needs competence. It needs integrity.
Nunes isnt Donald Trumps lawyer. Hes not Trumps spokesperson. Its not his job to clean up Trumps Twitter mess. The House Intelligence Committee faces the challenge of conducting an investigation that has at least some degree of bipartisan credibility. Its not success for Nunes to produce a report that plays great on Fox News while his Democratic counterpart, Adam Schiff, writes a dissenting document for Rachel Maddow.
Are you unconvinced? Lets indulge in the simplest exercise in political integrity. If the roles were reversed, what would you argue? If Adam Schiff was the chairman, Hillary Clinton was president, and Schiff was secretly meeting at the White House for solo briefings then presenting that same evidence to the press as if hed discovered it, youd want him to step down. And youd be right.
Months into the Russia controversy, we still dont know if there was any collusion at all between Russian officials and members of Trumps team. We still dont know the full extent of Russian efforts to have an impact on the election. And we still dont know the identities of government officials who seem to be leaking classified information to any reporter who will listen. But we do know that partisans on both sides are utterly shameless in their double standards. Leaks are terrible if the information is damaging for their side, and theyre vital to democracy if the information is good. The Clinton Foundations ties to Russia are overblown, but Trumps the Manchurian Candidate. Or, if youre a Republican, Hillary Clinton sold out American national security, and Trump is the victim of a witch hunt. Public discourse is becoming a sad joke.
If Nunes steps down as chairman, he can quickly transition from part of the problem to part of the solution. He can make a powerful statement that mistakes have consequences, and public officials still have the integrity to acknowledge their own shortcomings. He can clear the way for an investigation untainted by his own errors. His own power and his own position are not worth the ongoing loss in public confidence. Its time for Nunes to go.
David French is a staff writer for National Review, a senior fellow at the National Review Institute, and an attorney.
H2O Man
(73,537 posts)Nunes has disgraced the House Intelligence committee. He needs to resign his position.
ProfessorPlum
(11,257 posts)Leave it for a national review writer to assume facts not in evidence. His thought experiment, in which the roles are reversed, is exactly correct: Democrats wouldn't put up with this kind of corruption and incompetence.
But, IOKIYAR. Both sides do it!
dalton99a
(81,485 posts)Roy Rolling
(6,917 posts)The "both sides do it" line cheapens the whole piece. That is a throwaway line and any idiot knows that mundane fact. The fact it is also done by the GOP magnitudes greater than others should be included to clarify such a wishy-washy statement.
Fat chance.
Hekate
(90,674 posts)Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)orangecrush
(19,548 posts)Will never be a part of the solution.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)Otherwise his coverup gets more criminal the longer he delays coming clean.
He's in over his head playing in a league above his competency. He's gasping for air while other co-conspirators are treading water.
VaBchTgerLily
(231 posts)catbyte
(34,377 posts)More arrogance, more cluelessness, more tone-deafness.
Wounded Bear
(58,649 posts)in torpedoing the House investigation.
turbinetree
(24,695 posts)met prior to him scurrying over to the criminal and chief office to meet this "guy" named Ellis, who by the way use to work with Nunes in his office
The country needs a "special prosecutor" and the only way to get one from all appearances is to go into the street or into the office of captain AYN RAND and demand one, he works for the people, not the other way around.
This game of he said, he said and the press not asking what Nunes and Ryan said prior and after this jerk went over there is amazing.
Lawrence O'Donnell nailed it last night again
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)Thanks for posting the link. It wasn't up yet when I posted this thread last night:
"Ryan is at the center of the scandal. The press apparently didnt hear it when he said it in the WH driveway when he said he first went to Ryan before going to the WH. Everything he did after that would have been at the direction of Ryan. "
"The Nunes scandal is Paul Ryans scandal. That is why Ryan wont remove him. Ryan is in it as deep as Nunes is. If Nunes can lose the chairmanship over it, Ryan can lose the speakership over it. "
LOts More:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028865654
turbinetree
(24,695 posts)hard time answering those questions if and when they start coming
Amaryllis
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