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babylonsister

(171,064 posts)
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:58 AM Mar 2017

Nunes's unforced errors have undermined public faith

And even the conservatives are starting the drum beat.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446179/devin-nunes-trump-surveillance-campaign-investigation-house-intel-committee-russia

David French March 28, 2017 2:45 PM
Nunes’s unforced errors have undermined public faith.


Let’s begin with two assertions, both of which should be inarguable. First, no one in Washington is entitled to any position of power or responsibility. Second, the greater the power or responsibility, the more integrity, character, and — crucially — competence we should expect from our public officials. Or, to put it plainly, to whom much is given, much is required.

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Just at the time when the nation desperately needs adults to step forward who can give the public confidence that they not only understand the stakes of the Russia investigation, they also can be entrusted to conduct that investigation in good faith, Nunes unnecessarily poured gasoline on an already-raging fire. The American body politic is awash in conspiracy theories, mistrust, and wild claims of espionage and criminality. It needs leaders. It needs competence. It needs integrity.

Nunes isn’t Donald Trump’s lawyer. He’s not Trump’s spokesperson. It’s not his job to clean up Trump’s Twitter mess. The House Intelligence Committee faces the challenge of conducting an investigation that has at least some degree of bipartisan credibility. It’s not “success” for Nunes to produce a report that plays great on Fox News while his Democratic counterpart, Adam Schiff, writes a dissenting document for Rachel Maddow.

Are you unconvinced? Let’s indulge in the simplest exercise in political integrity. If the roles were reversed, what would you argue? If Adam Schiff was the chairman, Hillary Clinton was president, and Schiff was secretly meeting at the White House for solo briefings then presenting that same “evidence” to the press as if he’d discovered it, you’d want him to step down. And you’d be right.

Months into the Russia controversy, we still don’t know if there was any collusion at all between Russian officials and members of Trump’s team. We still don’t know the full extent of Russian efforts to have an impact on the election. And we still don’t know the identities of government officials who seem to be leaking classified information to any reporter who will listen. But we do know that partisans on both sides are utterly shameless in their double standards. Leaks are terrible if the information is damaging for their side, and they’re vital to democracy if the information is good. The Clinton Foundation’s ties to Russia are overblown, but Trump’s the Manchurian Candidate. Or, if you’re a Republican, Hillary Clinton sold out American national security, and Trump is the victim of a witch hunt. Public discourse is becoming a sad joke.

If Nunes steps down as chairman, he can quickly transition from part of the problem to part of the solution. He can make a powerful statement that mistakes have consequences, and public officials still have the integrity to acknowledge their own shortcomings. He can clear the way for an investigation untainted by his own errors. His own power and his own position are not worth the ongoing loss in public confidence. It’s time for Nunes to go.

— David French is a staff writer for National Review, a senior fellow at the National Review Institute, and an attorney.

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Nunes's unforced errors have undermined public faith (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 2017 OP
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2017 #1
"partisans on both sides are utterly shameless in their double standards" ProfessorPlum Mar 2017 #2
That's pure bullshit and they know it. dalton99a Mar 2017 #4
Was obvious to me too Roy Rolling Mar 2017 #8
KnR Hekate Mar 2017 #3
knr Ellipsis Mar 2017 #5
Nunes orangecrush Mar 2017 #6
Nunes might be able to salvage his career if he steps down now. Otherwise his cover up Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #7
Way past time for Nunes to go-he needs to be kicked to the curb!!! VaBchTgerLily Mar 2017 #9
But Paul Ryan has complete faith in him & sees no need for him to recuse himself. catbyte Mar 2017 #10
Short version: Nunes succeeded... Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #11
This jerk along with Paul "AYN RAND" Ryan knew and met they turbinetree Mar 2017 #12
CRITICAL piece everyone except O'Donnell is overlooking, and this is HUGE: Amaryllis Mar 2017 #14
Yes, all the way up to his AYN RAND eyeballs, it looks like Eddie is going to have turbinetree Mar 2017 #15
Eddie? Amaryllis Mar 2017 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Amaryllis Mar 2017 #13

ProfessorPlum

(11,257 posts)
2. "partisans on both sides are utterly shameless in their double standards"
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:55 AM
Mar 2017

Leave it for a national review writer to assume facts not in evidence. His thought experiment, in which the roles are reversed, is exactly correct: Democrats wouldn't put up with this kind of corruption and incompetence.

But, IOKIYAR. Both sides do it!

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
8. Was obvious to me too
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:08 AM
Mar 2017

The "both sides do it" line cheapens the whole piece. That is a throwaway line and any idiot knows that mundane fact. The fact it is also done by the GOP magnitudes greater than others should be included to clarify such a wishy-washy statement.

Fat chance.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
7. Nunes might be able to salvage his career if he steps down now. Otherwise his cover up
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:50 AM
Mar 2017

Otherwise his coverup gets more criminal the longer he delays coming clean.

He's in over his head playing in a league above his competency. He's gasping for air while other co-conspirators are treading water.

catbyte

(34,377 posts)
10. But Paul Ryan has complete faith in him & sees no need for him to recuse himself.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:57 AM
Mar 2017

More arrogance, more cluelessness, more tone-deafness.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
12. This jerk along with Paul "AYN RAND" Ryan knew and met they
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 11:00 AM
Mar 2017

met prior to him scurrying over to the criminal and chief office to meet this "guy" named Ellis, who by the way use to work with Nunes in his office


The country needs a "special prosecutor" and the only way to get one from all appearances is to go into the street or into the office of captain AYN RAND and demand one, he works for the people, not the other way around.

This game of he said, he said and the press not asking what Nunes and Ryan said prior and after this jerk went over there is amazing.

Lawrence O'Donnell nailed it last night again


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Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
14. CRITICAL piece everyone except O'Donnell is overlooking, and this is HUGE:
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 01:35 PM
Mar 2017

Thanks for posting the link. It wasn't up yet when I posted this thread last night:

"Ryan is at the center of the scandal. The press apparently didn’t hear it when he said it in the WH driveway when he said he first went to Ryan before going to the WH. Everything he did after that would have been at the direction of Ryan. "

"The Nunes scandal is Paul Ryan’s scandal. That is why Ryan won’t remove him. Ryan is in it as deep as Nunes is. If Nunes can lose the chairmanship over it, Ryan can lose the speakership over it. "

LOts More:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028865654

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
15. Yes, all the way up to his AYN RAND eyeballs, it looks like Eddie is going to have
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 01:50 PM
Mar 2017

hard time answering those questions if and when they start coming


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