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CousinIT

(9,253 posts)
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:27 AM Apr 2017

STOP TRUMP from GUTTING Social Security!

A stunning report from the Associated Press revealed the Trump administration is circulating a tax reform proposal that would permanently undermine Social Security by eliminating its primary funding source.1

It’s a total reversal from Trump’s campaign pledge not to touch Social Security – and it would pave the way for future benefit cuts by forcing Congress to find new sources of funding for Social Security each year.2

A lobbyist close to the Trump administration is pushing this plan in Congress right now. We need to fight back and make sure that Trump’s sneak attack on Social Security does not gain any traction on Capitol Hill.

Tell Congress: Stop Trump’s sneak attack on Social Security.

Trump’s tax reform proposal would reportedly eliminate most of the employee contributions to Social Security and replace the funding with general revenue. This seemingly simple change would make Social Security funding part of the regular budget process, leaving it subject to benefit cuts and other attacks each year at the hands of the right-wing extremist Republicans who currently control Congress.

This latest Republican attack on Social Security is part of a broader tax reform plan that would also drastically cut taxes for Donald Trump and his billionaire cronies. It’s a backward proposal that would further tilt the playing field in the American economy in favor of the ultra-rich.

Tell Congress: Stop Trump’s sneak attack on Social Security.

Social Security has had a dedicated funding source since the program was enacted more than 80 years ago. It is the basic contact that made Social Security one of the most successful and popular government programs in U.S. history: Workers contribute part of their wages and are later compensated with a pension when they are no longer able to work.

The Trump administration’s attempt to end that arrangement is a backdoor attack on Social Security that would inevitably lead to devastating cuts to the Social Security benefits tens of millions of Americans rely on to buy their food and pay their bills. As Social Security Works President Nancy Altman put it, it’s a Trojan horse that would “lead to the destruction of working Americans’ fundamental economic security.”3

It’s up to us to fight back and protect Social Security for all current and future beneficiaries. A strong show of grassroots opposition to the Trump administration’s proposal will show members of Congress that attempts to undermine Social Security will not be tolerated by their constituents.

Tell Congress: Stop Trump’s sneak attack on Social Security.

1. Josh Boak and Stephen Ohlemacher, "Trump-taxes: President scraps tax plan, timetable threatened," AP News, April 10, 2017.

2. Nancy Altman, "Trump’s Trojan Horse Attack On Social Security," The Huffington Post, April 11, 2017.

3. Heather Digby Parton, "Donald Trump is coming for your Social Security: How the GOP plans a bait and switch to cut taxes — and pensions," Salon, April 12, 2017.

SIGN THE PETITION HERE and SHARE this petition and these links and this message FAR & WIDE!

https://act.credoaction.com/sign/trump_social_security

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STOP TRUMP from GUTTING Social Security! (Original Post) CousinIT Apr 2017 OP
Wait - what??? FakeNoose Apr 2017 #1
YES HE CAN. He just eliminates the FICA tax and calls it a "middle class tax cut" CousinIT Apr 2017 #2
And a lot of people would be dumb enough Bettie Apr 2017 #20
BINGO! workinclasszero Apr 2017 #23
You're right about us being the primary funding HOWEVER... WePurrsevere Apr 2017 #4
"it would ultimately destroy it" CousinIT Apr 2017 #11
Yes, I totally agree... WePurrsevere Apr 2017 #18
That would be the greatest theft in American history True_Blue Apr 2017 #21
HEY TRUMPERS! Had enough yet? Eyeball_Kid Apr 2017 #3
They're too stupid to ever understand what this would mean. pangaia Apr 2017 #29
Typical Trump tactic world wide wally Apr 2017 #5
these ass hats wanted to get rid of ss. ssi .ssd. food stamps etc AllaN01Bear Apr 2017 #6
Call or visit your senators and representatives. Show up at town halls. we can do it Apr 2017 #7
I have to agree that online petitions are worthless Victor_c3 Apr 2017 #9
No you're RIGHT. CALL their offices. GO to their offices. GO to town halls. CousinIT Apr 2017 #12
Thank you! Also resistbot and 5 calls are easy ways for contacting congress. we can do it Apr 2017 #15
Resistbot is awesome! CousinIT Apr 2017 #19
Why in the world does RESISTBOT use a very light grey font on white. It's almost unreadable. pangaia Apr 2017 #30
Call your senators and REP ToDay--Hands of Soc riversedge Apr 2017 #8
Yep. DK504 Apr 2017 #10
Directories... CousinIT Apr 2017 #13
What about all those Trump supporters greymattermom Apr 2017 #14
Too bad suckers. Ligyron Apr 2017 #17
My fervent prayer (and complete expectation) Stonepounder Apr 2017 #16
filibuster? FiveGoodMen Apr 2017 #24
The change in the Senate rules regarding the filibuster Stonepounder Apr 2017 #26
Sure. But they obviously can change it anytime they really want to. FiveGoodMen Apr 2017 #31
K&R and Bookmarked! smirkymonkey Apr 2017 #22
US House panel to begin "tax reform" hearings next week: chairman - CALL YOUR REPS NOW CousinIT Apr 2017 #25
trump can't do anything..its in the Congress's hands beachbum bob Apr 2017 #27
Signed & kicking for visibility diva77 Apr 2017 #28
they are so evil, I just don't get it Kimchijeon Apr 2017 #32
K&R and shared! Thanks for posting! Rhiannon12866 Apr 2017 #33

FakeNoose

(32,705 posts)
1. Wait - what???
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:33 AM
Apr 2017

How can he eliminate Social Security's primary funding, when we're the primary funding?
I mean our paychecks (taxes), we put money into Social Security every week.

It's our money. He can't get his hands on it.



CousinIT

(9,253 posts)
2. YES HE CAN. He just eliminates the FICA tax and calls it a "middle class tax cut"
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:44 AM
Apr 2017

That's the plan. Do that and BOOM! - Social Security's primary source of funding is GONE.

Bettie

(16,118 posts)
20. And a lot of people would be dumb enough
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 12:32 PM
Apr 2017

to say "HEY! I've got a lot more money in my paycheck! YAY TRUMP!".

They won't think about it until Grandma has to move in with them because she now has no income.

CousinIT

(9,253 posts)
11. "it would ultimately destroy it"
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:48 AM
Apr 2017
Not only would the Trump proposal starve Social Security of dedicated revenue, it would ultimately destroy it. Social Security is not a government handout. It is wage insurance that the American people earn, as part of their compensation, and, indeed, pay for with deductions from their pay.

It is instructive to note that the employee contributions are mandated by the Federal Insurance Contributions Act (“FICA”). It is useful to pause and reflect on the name, the Federal Insurance Contributions Act, and the fact that it was enacted in 1939.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
18. Yes, I totally agree...
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 12:29 PM
Apr 2017

We essentially pay retirement insurance premiums in the hope that we'll live long enough to collect the benefits and disability insurance premiums in the hope we never will. They're extremely important earned benefits that help millions and should be enhanced not placed in jeopardy.

True_Blue

(3,063 posts)
21. That would be the greatest theft in American history
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 12:38 PM
Apr 2017

Even bigger than than Bernie Madoff or the Enron execs. Trump would be stealing from every single American worker. I wouldn't put it past him to try. I just don't he could get away with it.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,433 posts)
3. HEY TRUMPERS! Had enough yet?
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:44 AM
Apr 2017

Trumpy doesn't give a damn about your well being, your quality of life, your Social Security savings.

And YOU voted for him.

What are you going to DO about it, Trumpers? Trust that the pathological liar will nonetheless lead you to the Promised Land? Do you know what Trumpy believes the "Promised Land" to be? It's an early residence in the mortuary.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
29. They're too stupid to ever understand what this would mean.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 06:29 PM
Apr 2017

But they sure as hell will find out when their monthly SS check drops by 75% !

AllaN01Bear

(18,327 posts)
6. these ass hats wanted to get rid of ss. ssi .ssd. food stamps etc
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:59 AM
Apr 2017

for years . now when they do where is ther mother . on the street , then they whine about the homeless and find their mother there , gasp we cant have that.p s: these asshats have nothing new in their trick poney. they cant , wont and dont know how to rule . all they know is how to cut and destroy the social programs . people , if u cut everything , we are still going to have a debt thru several unpayed wars , and a trade deficit. hem " lisa simpson: i am the first straight white female president , ever , and it took us 20 years to recover from donald trumps programs ".

we can do it

(12,190 posts)
7. Call or visit your senators and representatives. Show up at town halls.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:02 AM
Apr 2017

Online petitions are a waste of time.
Sorry to sound grumpy- I appreciate your post. However online petitions and polls really aren't effective.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
9. I have to agree that online petitions are worthless
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:15 AM
Apr 2017

I believe that cutting Social Security will be enrage people at least as much as healthcare - and probably more so. To me, social security is a much bigger issue than healthcare.

If trump really wants to enrage the public, this is one way to go about it.

CousinIT

(9,253 posts)
12. No you're RIGHT. CALL their offices. GO to their offices. GO to town halls.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:50 AM
Apr 2017

Tell them how losing Social Security would affect you. Tell them you expect them to OPPOSE any such cuts or they will NEVER get your vote (even if you'd never vote for them anyway).

Anyone will tell you that CALLS and VISITs are MOST effective. Petitions are LEAST effective. I nag people here all the time to CALL and go to Town Halls and Rep's offices.

I posted what 'Credo' sent me so everyone could see the links at least, and BEWARE what the bastards are trying to do.

CALL YOUR REPS: 202-224-3121 (WH switchboard)

House Directory:


http://www.house.gov/representatives/

Senate Directory:


https://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
30. Why in the world does RESISTBOT use a very light grey font on white. It's almost unreadable.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 06:34 PM
Apr 2017

These young pseudo hi-tech 20-somethings seem to like that.

...probably the same guys who designed G-mail and water fountains... oh, and QUICKEN... and SUVs with such bad outside visibility they need a back-up camera.. and a radio that requires a PhD in engineering to change the station...

Am I really that much smarter than everybody else, or...am I just getting old??


DK504

(3,847 posts)
10. Yep.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:28 AM
Apr 2017

I just wrote a stream of consciousness to my "Congress" people in Mississippi. Not that they will even read it, but hopefully some of us will write the cretins.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
16. My fervent prayer (and complete expectation)
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 12:15 PM
Apr 2017

is that the Democrats in Congress would filibuster this BS forever and shut down the gov't if necessary to prevent this piece of malice shit from ever seeing the turdblossoms desk. Even a few Repukes would realize that they have enough non-idiots who vote that signing on to this would be political suicide.

They don't expect to pass this - this time. It used to be that no one would dare even suggest cutting Social Security. Now is is no longer 'unthinkable'. So they toss this out there knowing that it doesn't have a hope of passing, but then they can back away from it and weaken SS in some other way and claim that 'they were willing to negotiate'.

We have to tell them loud and clear: NO RETREAT, NO SURRENDER!

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
26. The change in the Senate rules regarding the filibuster
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 05:43 PM
Apr 2017

only changed the filibuster to say that you couldn't filibuster a Supreme Court nominee. The Dems had already changed the rules so you couldn't filibuster a Federal Court nominee, but left the SCOTUS alone. So far we still have the filibuster for normal legislation - sort of, as long as it doesn't qualify for 'reconciliation'.

Kimchijeon

(1,606 posts)
32. they are so evil, I just don't get it
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:49 PM
Apr 2017

why? what petty gains do they gain from utterly destroying us all? it's like a cartoon bad guy plot. from a really, really shitty Hanna-Barbara cartoon. WTF.

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