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WAKE UP!!!! The ACA is hanging by a thread. (Original Post) RandySF May 2017 OP
I smell a Zell Miller about to go down. Wellstone ruled May 2017 #1
Not to worry. The Senate is a big NO sailfla May 2017 #2
Why are you confident of that? NewRedDawn May 2017 #3
I do not believe republicans only need standingtall May 2017 #5
There aren't fifty Republican senators to pass this piece of shit, much less 60. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #6
Agreed... JoeStuckInOH May 2017 #9
It was inevitable that the Repubs in the House would come around onenote May 2017 #4
+1 n/t. okieinpain May 2017 #8
I believe the right will only reject these ultraconservative Hortensis May 2017 #7
Add this debacle on to the shit stew that will drown those motherfuckers in 2018. BigDemVoter May 2017 #10
 

NewRedDawn

(790 posts)
3. Why are you confident of that?
Wed May 3, 2017, 02:43 PM
May 2017

They only need 50 + Pence. I see maybe only Susan Collins & Lisa Murkowski as a no vote.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
5. I do not believe republicans only need
Wed May 3, 2017, 02:53 PM
May 2017

50+1 votes to pass this bill in it's current form. Republicans are simply lying when they claim this is just a budget bill and thus not subject to the filibuster. Also remember U.S. Senator is a Statewide position not just some gerrymandered district like congress. Highly unlikely this gets through the Senate.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
6. There aren't fifty Republican senators to pass this piece of shit, much less 60.
Wed May 3, 2017, 02:57 PM
May 2017

There are 20 Republican senators in states that accepted Medicaid expansion.

 

JoeStuckInOH

(544 posts)
9. Agreed...
Wed May 3, 2017, 03:49 PM
May 2017

Senators have 6 year terms. House members don't have as much time to let shitty votes hang around their necks. I don't see any junior senators or freshly minted senators with aspirations of subsequent terms voting for this.

The house is expected to be more volatile and the senate usually much more tempered for this reason.

onenote

(42,703 posts)
4. It was inevitable that the Repubs in the House would come around
Wed May 3, 2017, 02:47 PM
May 2017

The so-called moderates are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They need the more conservative portions of the repub base to support them or they risk losing. Plus they are extremely fearful of a bloodbath in 2018 if the messaging continues to be that they can't get anything done. So they'll claim that Upton's "switch" is a signal that the bill as amended is improved and they can support it. It doesn't matter that the improvement is more fiction than fact. They need to change the story from repubs can't get their shit together to do something they've claimed they wanted to do for seven years to "Trump and repubs achieve success".

What will happen in the Senate? Well so long as the bill requires 60 votes, it goes no where. Will the Senate repubs jump on board? I wouldn't bet against it (although you might see one or two jump ship).

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. I believe the right will only reject these ultraconservative
Wed May 3, 2017, 03:04 PM
May 2017

bastards who've taken control of their party when they themselves are bloodied. They definitely lack insight and wisdom.

So, so be it, and please let it happen soon, not dragged out over another decade of continued decline. Destroying the ACA, with the VA to follow, and whatever else the ultraconservative billionaires powering all this get greedy to take down, will cause...reaction.

If only an additional 10% of the electorate turned on them, they'd lose terribly across the nation. Let that start in 2018.

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
10. Add this debacle on to the shit stew that will drown those motherfuckers in 2018.
Wed May 3, 2017, 04:28 PM
May 2017

I fucking HATE all of them.

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