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babylonsister

(171,063 posts)
Wed May 3, 2017, 10:02 PM May 2017

Wall Street-Owned GOP Threatening To Take Obamas Retirement Money Because Of $400K Speech

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Wall Street-Owned GOP Threatening To Take Obama’s Retirement Money Because Of $400K Speech

By Sean Colarossi on Wed, May 3rd, 2017 at 9:34 pm
Even when Barack Obama isn't in the White House, Republicans in Congress are trying to bring him down.


Republicans, whose economic agenda is basically written by and for Wall Street, are now threatening to go after former President Obama’s pension after it was revealed that the former president will accept money for a speech he’s delivering to … Wall Street.

According to USA TODAY, GOP Rep. Jason Chaffetz of Utah – in response to Obama’s planned $400,000 speech to Wall Street – will reintroduce legislation to curb pensions of former presidents.

More from USA TODAY:

Last year, then-president Barack Obama vetoed a bill that would have curbed the pensions of former presidents if they took outside income of $400,000 or more.


So now that former president Barack Obama has decided to accept $400,000 for an upcoming Wall Street speech, the sponsors of that bill say they’ll reintroduce that bill in hopes that President Trump will sign it.

“The Obama hypocrisy on this issue is revealing,” said Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee and sponsor of the 2016 bill. “His veto was very self-serving.”

Chaffetz and Sen. Joni Ernst, R-Iowa, the sponsor of the companion Senate bill, say they will re-introduce the Presidential Allowance Modernization Act this month.


Like just about every other president in modern history, Obama plans to give paid speeches after he’s out of office. His upcoming speech to Wall Street likely won’t be the last in what will probably be a long list of post-presidency speeches to various organizations.

Why do Republicans suddenly feel that presidents should now be punished for delivering paid speeches just because it’s Obama who’s doing it?


I’ll leave that to others to speculate on.

Ultimately, one thing is clear: Even when Barack Obama isn’t in the White House, Republicans in Congress are trying to bring him down.

Once again, they’ll likely fail.
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Wall Street-Owned GOP Threatening To Take Obamas Retirement Money Because Of $400K Speech (Original Post) babylonsister May 2017 OP
They would fucking allow trump to do it. Doreen May 2017 #1
Or any white person. - nt KingCharlemagne May 2017 #15
Do not forget male and far far far right Christian fundamentalist. Doreen May 2017 #18
George W. Bush made $15 million. Is Chaffetz going after HIM??????? PA Democrat May 2017 #2
is GWBush Black ? JI7 May 2017 #22
This is what you get for gift-wrapping smears R B Garr May 2017 #3
good thing no democrats or independents have criticized obama for giving paid speeches. nt msongs May 2017 #4
"Good thing no democrats or independents have criticized obama for giving paid speeches." LenaBaby61 May 2017 #10
And unfortunately certain progressives have already given the GOP political cover for doing so. n/t pnwmom May 2017 #5
Yeah, that's exactly why Chaffetz is picking up R B Garr May 2017 #8
Hypocrites..so Much for the Free Market Ccarmona May 2017 #6
bill of attainder? 0rganism May 2017 #7
Great minds think alike. I was tginking about the ex post facto KingCharlemagne May 2017 #16
ChappedAzz, go get your surgery already! ProudLib72 May 2017 #9
Did Dr. Conrad Murray get his license back yet? oasis May 2017 #13
oh but they're just the same omg lol Ohioblue22 May 2017 #11
I don't recall this same outrage when Reagan took a $2 million speaking fee in 1989 gratuitous May 2017 #12
The difference was knowledge of monetary acceptance ProudLib72 May 2017 #17
Clearly unconstitutional, and they know it GulfCoast66 May 2017 #14
How is it unconstitutional? unblock May 2017 #19
Bill of attainer GulfCoast66 May 2017 #20
i agree if it affected obama alone it would be unconstitutional unblock May 2017 #21

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
3. This is what you get for gift-wrapping smears
Wed May 3, 2017, 10:09 PM
May 2017

against Democrats. This is nothing more than a way to prolong the divisive rhetoric that obviously -- obviously-- helps Republicans. Never again!

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
8. Yeah, that's exactly why Chaffetz is picking up
Wed May 3, 2017, 10:13 PM
May 2017

Last edited Thu May 4, 2017, 12:05 AM - Edit history (1)

where 2016 left off. It's a gift horse to Republicans.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
6. Hypocrites..so Much for the Free Market
Wed May 3, 2017, 10:11 PM
May 2017

They claim to love dearly.
Hell, even If Larry the Cable Guy spoke to Wall St, his fee would be the same. That's what he earns for any show he puts on.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
9. ChappedAzz, go get your surgery already!
Wed May 3, 2017, 10:14 PM
May 2017

I hope there is no anesthesiologist who agrees to sedate him while they tear apart his fucking foot!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
12. I don't recall this same outrage when Reagan took a $2 million speaking fee in 1989
Wed May 3, 2017, 10:22 PM
May 2017

I wonder, wonder, wha-aa-aa-aa-at the difference could possibly be? Unless the difference is black and white, I don't think the difference is quite so discernible between Obama and Reagan.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
17. The difference was knowledge of monetary acceptance
Wed May 3, 2017, 10:28 PM
May 2017

At that point, they could have paid Reagan in chewing gum and he would not have known the difference.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
14. Clearly unconstitutional, and they know it
Wed May 3, 2017, 10:25 PM
May 2017

But designed to up the republicans base and certain others who supposedly hate republicans.

unblock

(52,209 posts)
19. How is it unconstitutional?
Wed May 3, 2017, 10:46 PM
May 2017

Nakedly partisan, sure.
Petty vengeance, sure.

But unconstitutional?

Former presidents have no constitutional right to a pension, that's always been subject to federal law.

They could reduce it to zero if they passed a law for that.

As long as they make shrub and other former presidents subject to the same rules, I don't see a constitutional problem.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
20. Bill of attainer
Wed May 3, 2017, 11:00 PM
May 2017

Congress cannot fine individual or in other ways strip them of property. Pensions are property earned.

And we all know this is for show. They have no intention of doing it and in my opinion had not some well meaning and some not so well meaning liberals made a deal of it they would not have brought it up.

unblock

(52,209 posts)
21. i agree if it affected obama alone it would be unconstitutional
Thu May 4, 2017, 12:11 AM
May 2017

but as long as they treated all former presidents equally, i still think it would be constitutional.

it doesn't make sense that they can enact a law to specifically pay a tiny number of individuals (former presidents) and not at some point lower the amount or even repeal the act entirely.

notwithstanding that we call it a "pension", i think the amount is discretionary, subject to federal law.


i agree that it's red meat for the republican masses, and if it even passed congress, donnie would probably veto it, as obama did.
it's chump change for donnie, but he's a greedy f---, i can't see him letting any amount of money getting away from him.

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