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MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
Thu May 4, 2017, 02:55 PM May 2017

Useful Tips for Inexperienced (and experienced) Airline Passengers

I've flown on commercial airlines hundreds of times. Based on that experience, here are some tips for passengers who don't travel much, and for experienced flyers who don't pay much attention. They'll help at every step of your journey. They'll also help you not be that passenger who slows everyone else down.

1. Have your shit together - Before you leave for the airport, check to make sure your ID is easily accessible and your boarding pass is, as well, if you printed it out beforehand (you should). When packing, don't put all those bottles of shampoo and other vanity products in your carry-on. Put them in checked bags or leave them at home. They sell that stuff where you're going, too.

2. Dress to fly - Wear shoes that are easy to remove. You'll have to remove them unless you're a TSA pre-check passenger. It's a pain in the ass to have to bend over and untie your shoes. Wear slip-ons and you'll be much happier. Also, wear a light jacket with big pockets that can be closed with a button or zipper, even if it's warm. As you approach the security screening, move the junk in your pockets (all of it) into the pockets of the jacket while you're waiting in the long security line. If you're wearing a bunch of jewelry (why?), put that in the pockets, too. Then, when you approach the screening area you can remove and fold your jacket and put it in the bin. Don't leave anything in your pockets. Put it all in your jacket pockets before you get through the line. That jacket, folded up, also makes a great pillow during the flight. Alternatively, you can stash that junk in an outside pocket of a carry-on.

3. Show up early at the airport - Seriously. You're going to enjoy your trip a lot more if you show up early and have plenty of time to check in, check your luggage and get through security. It's a lot more relaxing to sit at the boarding gate with your mocha latte until it's time to get on the plane than it is to run through the terminal at the last minute.

4. Check your bag outside the terminal - If you printed your boarding pass at home (another reason you should), don't go inside and stand in line to check your bag in. If there's a redcap station outside, do it there. Give the nice person who checks you in a $5 tip. It's worth it. Once your bag is checked, you're done, and can go straight to the security screening. This saves time and hassle.

5. Get ready for the TSA screening - You'll need your boarding pass and ID immediately available. Hold them in your hand or put them in a shirt pocket or somewhere that's instantly accessible. Don't wait until the last second to fish your ID out of your purse or wallet or to dig out your boarding pass from your carry-on. See #2 for instructions about what to do with all the crap in your pockets. If you have a belly cover as a belt-buckle, remove your belt and put it, rolled-up, in your jacket pocket, too.

6. Read stuff and listen to announcements - When you get to the TSA screening area, look around and read those signs everyone ignores. Review your preparations and make sure you've dealt with your liquids by putting them in small ziplock bags. Listen to the PA system announcements closely. They may give you information you need. Pay attention to your surroundings and learn from the passengers ahead of you, as well. As the line moves ahead, please move along with it. Don't delay others.

7. Follow directions given by TSA people - Smile and hand your boarding pass and ID, face-up, to the nice person at the desk and listen to that person, who may ask you a question or two and will tell you what to do next. Don't get distracted. This will help you get through security faster. Note: If you have an internal joint replacement, tell the nice person at the desk about it. That will save time, since he or she will be able to instruct you on what you need to do. If you don't, you may have to do things twice, and that wastes time.

8. Be efficient at the X-ray conveyor - Those bins? Use them. Use as many as you need. If you have a laptop, take it out of your bag or carry-on and put it by itself in a bin. Put your shoes in a bin and fold your jacket (full of the junk in your pockets) and put it on top of your shoes. Put any small junk you're carrying in a bin, too. Put your carry-on on the conveyor, along with your purse and any other large junk you're carrying. If necessary, push the entire lot forward until everything reaches the moving belt. Then step over to the next station.

9. Wait patiently for the TSA person to tell you what to do - Go through the metal detector or scanner, following whatever instructions you are given. Look at the diagram inside the x-ray thing. Do what it shows. Stand still. Then follow the next instructions from the TSA person. If you are asked to step over and be patted down, just do it. You're not going to argue your way out of it, so just do it. Usually, it will only involve checking some specific area that was indicated by the scanner. It will only take a minute or two. If there are other issues, listen and follow whatever instructions you are given. There's no point in arguing. That will only delay the process, and you will never win such an argument.

10. Pick up all your junk from the x-ray conveyor - Don't stand there after you do this. Move on, so the next person can pick up his or her junk. Carry it over to the nice, uncomfortable seats outside of the security area and reassemble yourself there. Always move promptly from one area to the next, to avoid annoying everyone around you.

11. Before going to the gate indicated on your ticket, check the flight display near security - You might just discover that your gate has been changed. It happens all the time. If you go to the wrong gate and then have to go to the right gate, you'll waste more time. However, do go directly to your assigned gate. Do that before browsing through the shops, buying magazines, sandwiches, candy bars and other junk to take on the plane. You want to find your gate before doing that, especially in an unfamiliar airport.

12. While waiting in the gate area, look once again at the flight number on your ticket - Remember it. Listen to PA announcements, and if you hear your flight number, pay attention. You might learn something interesting. If you have a boarding pass, which you clearly do at this point, you don't need to go up to the gate counter. You have a seat. Don't worry. Amuse yourself by watching the growing crowd or play with your cell phone or other devices. But keep listening.

13. When boarding begins, listen even closer to the announcements - Do what the nice airline people ask. If you're in Zone 5, don't line up to board when Zone 3 is called, for example. You'll just slow everyone down. Sit down and be comfortable. Then, when the zone or whatever before yours is called, wait until the line grows and then stand up and move up near the back of the line, so you'll be there early when it's your turn. Don't attempt to board until it's your turn. Don't wait until the last minute before boarding. Board when your group or zone is called. Otherwise, you'll just waste your time and everyone else's.

14. As you board the plane, have a plan for your carry-on - If it must go into the overhead bins, then hoist it up there efficiently when you reach your row. Don't suddenly decide that you need something in there. You should have thought of that earlier. If your carry-on will fit under the seat in front of you (recommended), stow it there, not in the overhead bins. Note: bags under your seat are much, much easier when you arrive. You just pull them out and walk on. Leave room for others. Take your seat immediately. Sit in your assigned seat, not the one you'd prefer. Otherwise you'll slow things down when the person who has the seat you took shows up.

15. Once seated, listen to announcements from the flight crew - follow their instructions. Don't wait to find out how to put your cell phone in airline mode until they announce that you need to do that. In fact, anticipate as much as you can. Don't be that person who insists on talking on their phone until a flight attendant comes over and demands that it be shut off. That delays things. Don't delay things.

16. Once the flight is in the air, deal with stuff - The drink and snack cart will eventually get to your row. You probably don't really need that thing you forgot to take out of your carry-on in the overhead bin. Relax, and try to be as comfortable as you can, and let the time pass. Don't start a conversation with the passenger next to you if he or she is reading a book or doing something else. If you don't want a conversation, read a book or do something else. Don't decide that you need to use the toilet while the snack and drink carts are moving in the aisles. Wait until they're past you. It's just not nice to make them back up so you can go potty. Really.

17. When the plane lands, gather all your junk together - Wait for your turn to deplane. Everyone will get off the plane. You will get off the plane, too. There's no way to speed things up, so sit there and relax a few more minutes. Listen for the announcement of which luggage carousel is assigned to your flight. When it's your row's turn, just get up and go. If you did store a bag overhead, please be careful not to knock someone in the head when you pull it out of the bin. Finally, as you enter the terminal, keep walking. Don't stop right in front of the entry door to get your bearings. That will only delay all the people behind you, and isn't that annoying when it happens to you? Just walk briskly on until you get to the main aisle. Then look to see which way you need to go.

I hope this information and these tips help you with your next airline trip. Who knows? I might be on it, too.

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Useful Tips for Inexperienced (and experienced) Airline Passengers (Original Post) MineralMan May 2017 OP
I think I will stay home or take the train katmondoo May 2017 #1
Good. More room for me on the plane. Thanks! MineralMan May 2017 #3
Not leg room, I'm sure...I LOVE train travel angstlessk May 2017 #11
I don't have time for trains. MineralMan May 2017 #13
Get a sleeper and make the trip a short vacation! angstlessk May 2017 #16
I travel TO vacations. Traveling time is not vacation time for me. MineralMan May 2017 #18
I see why, they cared for you when you needed them... angstlessk May 2017 #22
I like to make "hungry eyes" at the TSA pat down clerks NightWatcher May 2017 #2
LOL! MineralMan May 2017 #4
Tweak your nipples while you're in line. NightWatcher May 2017 #9
Just leave my nipples out of this, if you don't mind.... MineralMan May 2017 #14
Useful! True Dough May 2017 #5
Exactly. Almost every problem I've ever had MineralMan May 2017 #7
Excellent advice. cwydro May 2017 #6
Ain't it the truth? MineralMan May 2017 #10
Most European airports SoCalNative May 2017 #8
That's why I said IF they have curbside checkin. MineralMan May 2017 #12
Me too. cwydro May 2017 #17
Yup. Leave your attitude at home or pack it in your MineralMan May 2017 #40
I have been flying to Japan since 1999 doing curb side check in with Delta and have never had a OregonBlue May 2017 #77
Do you have a connecting flight somewhere in the US? SoCalNative May 2017 #87
I'll have to think about that. Most of the time we fly direct to Narita. Once in a while it's a lot OregonBlue May 2017 #89
Jewelry jberryhill May 2017 #15
Yeah. I've never had my wedding ring set anything off. MineralMan May 2017 #20
Yeah, I typically take a cycling jacket jberryhill May 2017 #31
My son used to do the bike thing too... LeftInTX May 2017 #41
Cool luggage! MineralMan May 2017 #42
Pretty comprehensive list titaniumsalute May 2017 #19
All of that stuff goes into the pockets of my travel jacket. MineralMan May 2017 #21
That jacket is a good idea LeftInTX May 2017 #45
I have an old tan corduroy sports coat with lots of MineralMan May 2017 #47
Yeah I never travel with a jacket... titaniumsalute May 2017 #61
Several good ones... I'd really add.. hlthe2b May 2017 #23
Yep jberryhill May 2017 #37
I literally hate rolling carry-on luggage. MineralMan May 2017 #44
Bottom line... LESS (less weight, less size, less clutter) is More.. hlthe2b May 2017 #48
I'm not a big fan either zipplewrath May 2017 #55
I would like to add some things (for travelers with children). EllieBC May 2017 #24
Great suggestions. I don't have kids, so MineralMan May 2017 #46
Do they have benches for removing and replacing shoes? csziggy May 2017 #25
Rarely for removing them. Usually for putting them back on. MineralMan May 2017 #29
They have accomodations. LeftInTX May 2017 #35
Try shoes sans- laces..just slip them on and off. pangaia May 2017 #53
Good sandals jberryhill May 2017 #49
I have scar tissue from a third degree burn on the top of one foot csziggy May 2017 #73
Use the restroom before boarding the plane. BYO water if it is a short flight. LeftInTX May 2017 #26
All good ideas. I knew I wouldn't get them all in. Thanks. MineralMan May 2017 #30
and..if you can..get to an office and sign up for the Known Traveler Number... samnsara May 2017 #27
Sure. For frequent flyers, that's a great idea. MineralMan May 2017 #34
One thing regarding shoes - phylny May 2017 #28
If there's a damned emergency, I'll manage. MineralMan May 2017 #38
Glad to hear it. I like my plan for me because I don't know what will happen. nt phylny May 2017 #43
Absolutely... so stupid to wear anything you could not navigate in, if needed. hlthe2b May 2017 #50
I do all of that greymattermom May 2017 #32
We just had a gate change while waiting at the gate MineralMan May 2017 #36
Great advice! Raster May 2017 #33
Thanks! MineralMan May 2017 #39
Pack a change of underwear in your carry-on bag PA Democrat May 2017 #51
Yup. Always. If your checked luggage doesn't arrive, at least you can MineralMan May 2017 #54
I remember when flying was a pleasure. n/t rzemanfl May 2017 #52
You know, it still is for me. MineralMan May 2017 #56
You're more laid back than I am. rzemanfl May 2017 #62
I remember those days, too. 'Tain't like that any more. MineralMan May 2017 #64
Get FLIGHT AWARE !!! pangaia May 2017 #57
Yeah, I have that on my phone. I haven't found it all that useful, MineralMan May 2017 #58
I fly out of Rochester ny and also do a lot of international flying so pretty much must connect pangaia May 2017 #59
That's true. I remember one flight I had being cancelled. MineralMan May 2017 #63
Good plan. pangaia May 2017 #70
It has saved my bacon a few times too jberryhill May 2017 #74
I respectfully disagree with most of these tips oberliner May 2017 #60
To each his or her own, I suppose. MineralMan May 2017 #66
Fair enough oberliner May 2017 #69
Newark.. yeah, I used to go through there a lot.. mostly to China and Europe. pangaia May 2017 #86
Very Useful and well said Dem_4_Life May 2017 #65
Thanks to you, good traveler. MineralMan May 2017 #67
You missed steps #0 and #11b ... BYOB JoeStuckInOH May 2017 #68
I like your style, Joe! I may try this on my next flight to Florida! Nay May 2017 #76
Full disclosure... simply having the liquor is legal but drinking it can be a gray area. JoeStuckInOH May 2017 #85
Yeah, I figured it would be like this, thus the pouring of the liquor in the Nay May 2017 #88
Well done! treestar May 2017 #71
Sometimes super-efficiency backfires mainer May 2017 #72
Ah, one of those... jberryhill May 2017 #75
Great tips. I would add some pre-flight tips Rorey May 2017 #78
Seinfeld ruined the outside bag check. Croney May 2017 #79
#11 good call JDC May 2017 #80
Everything in this post is perfect. KatyMan May 2017 #81
Follow #10 most of all. ileus May 2017 #82
Things that make air travel easier for me crazycatlady May 2017 #83
And this is why I only fly when absolutely required. Tatiana May 2017 #84

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
11. Not leg room, I'm sure...I LOVE train travel
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:03 PM
May 2017

so uncomplicated PLUS they have a BAR CAR! And a restaurant...plenty of leg room there!

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
13. I don't have time for trains.
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:05 PM
May 2017

If I had time for the train, I'd drive, instead. Most of my flights would take two or three days on the train. Screw that noise!

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
16. Get a sleeper and make the trip a short vacation!
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:09 PM
May 2017

When I take a train, getting there is half the fun!

Driving is about 1/3 as stressful as flying, but a train trip is 100% pleasure...you even get to meet fellow travelers!

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
18. I travel TO vacations. Traveling time is not vacation time for me.
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:11 PM
May 2017

These days, most of my travel is to spend time with my aging parents. I don't want to lose time with them.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
22. I see why, they cared for you when you needed them...
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:17 PM
May 2017

enjoy as much time as you can.

I recall the day my father died I was 'looking forward' to a party we were going to that night, now every time I 'look forward' I recall that day, and try to live in the now.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
2. I like to make "hungry eyes" at the TSA pat down clerks
Thu May 4, 2017, 02:59 PM
May 2017

I never get groped.

All good points MM. Plus I hope you all get Hungry Eyes from Dirty Dancing stuck in your head today.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
9. Tweak your nipples while you're in line.
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:02 PM
May 2017

They don't want that, but if you do get searched it will be extra zeal and be kinda fun too.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
14. Just leave my nipples out of this, if you don't mind....
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:06 PM
May 2017

BTW, why do men have nipples in the first place? Proof of evolution, I guess.

True Dough

(17,304 posts)
5. Useful!
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:01 PM
May 2017

There has been a lot of (warranted) media attention paid lately to the poor response of some airline employees/security to various situations.

On the other hand, there are hundreds or thousands of incidents and delays daily at airports all over the world because passengers didn't show up prepared or they are unreasonable, impatient, irritable. It cuts both ways.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
7. Exactly. Almost every problem I've ever had
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:02 PM
May 2017

at airports and on planes has been caused by clueless passengers.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
6. Excellent advice.
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:01 PM
May 2017

I've been flying since I was 6 weeks old (when I got my first passport).

It's amazing to me how many people just make it a worse experience than it has to be.

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
8. Most European airports
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:02 PM
May 2017

don't ask you to remove your shoes, unless you have a large heel or clunky bottom on them. However, in the US they do not allow curbside luggage check-in for international flights, and this is also not an option in Europe.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
12. That's why I said IF they have curbside checkin.
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:03 PM
May 2017

The shoe thing is a PITA, but there it is. I prepare for it, because there it is.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
17. Me too.
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:10 PM
May 2017

I always wear shoes I can easily take off and slip on.

And pax will find out very quickly that it's self-defeating to get any attitude with airline staff or TSA personnel.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
77. I have been flying to Japan since 1999 doing curb side check in with Delta and have never had a
Thu May 4, 2017, 08:21 PM
May 2017

problem. Has it changed recently? I haven't gone in about a year.

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
87. Do you have a connecting flight somewhere in the US?
Fri May 5, 2017, 03:32 AM
May 2017

if so then yes, you can do curbside check-in. When flying directly from an international terminal to an overseas destination I have never been able to use the curbside check-in. They have always made me take my bags inside.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
89. I'll have to think about that. Most of the time we fly direct to Narita. Once in a while it's a lot
Mon May 8, 2017, 06:22 PM
May 2017

cheaper to go through San Francisco or Los Angeles. I might have to look at my old tickets to see if they let us check our luggage curbside only on the flights when we are flying through another airport? Now I'm curious. Why would it be done that way? Is there a reason that you know of?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
15. Jewelry
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:09 PM
May 2017

I'm always kind of amazed at how much jewelry people wear, when heading to a metal detector.

The threshold on those things used to be kind of high, but they've lowered it quite a bit over the years.

Watch, wedding ring and belt: into the outer pocket of your carry-on before getting in line; Glasses: into the bin with my laptop.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
20. Yeah. I've never had my wedding ring set anything off.
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:14 PM
May 2017

But the rest, yes. Into my jacket pocket it goes. BTW, it's a good idea to wear a jacket with pockets that close with a button or zipper. Otherwise, junk can fall out. Really, though, I try to keep the amount of junk I have to deal with down to a minimum.

Who's checking out jewelry on a flight, anyhow. Uff da!

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
31. Yeah, I typically take a cycling jacket
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:27 PM
May 2017

Because (a) I'll probably be riding my bike at the other end, and (b) it has a humungous zippered rear pocket that pretty much doubles as another bag.

I try to minimize airplane/airport hassles, because the more "interesting" part of my flight routine is:














Total weight is 35 pounds, and it has wheels.

LeftInTX

(25,305 posts)
41. My son used to do the bike thing too...
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:41 PM
May 2017

He went to school in NYC.
He needed a bike there and he needed a bike at home.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
19. Pretty comprehensive list
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:12 PM
May 2017

I've also flown hundreds of times.

One thing I'd advise though...when it comes to the TSA security don't put all of your shit into bins. I take my keys, cell phone, wallet, belt, etc. and I put it ALL into my small carry-on bag. That way you cannot lose it, it speeds up the process, you just grab your bag post-security, and go retrieve those things away from everyone else.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
21. All of that stuff goes into the pockets of my travel jacket.
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:15 PM
May 2017

I should have mentioned that such a jacket should have pockets that can be closed up. I'll edit.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
47. I have an old tan corduroy sports coat with lots of
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:51 PM
May 2017

pockets that I use only for traveling. It's not too warm in warm weather, either. Goodwill is a great source for such travel jackets.

hlthe2b

(102,239 posts)
23. Several good ones... I'd really add..
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:19 PM
May 2017

Check luggage restrictions (checked & carry-on restrictions ahead of time)... Measure your carry on. (DON'T assume that allowed PERSONAL item can be another full sized carry-on-- IT CAN'T. It is meant to be a SMALL purse, camera bag, diaper bag--not a gargantuan tote bag, duffle bag or 40 + pound laptop bag--that can be your primary carry-on but not your personal item for those airlines that allow) Pack and then remove at least half of it. An over-filled bag may well no longer meet size restrictions but worse, render it so heavy you can't or can barely hoist it into the overhead bin, while putting all the travelers seated below at risk for concussion as you try. Travel was once a fashionable experience (decades ago). No longer. If you must renew your look EVERY day, consider scarves (or ties for the guys). Wear a monochromatic wardrobe that mixes/matches with no fuss Otherwise be prepared to haul all that extra stuff (and pay for) the appropriate number of checked bags.

I do strongly disagree on not carrying the allowed quart bag of toiletries. I'd bet most women here might agree, that a lot of what you can pay obscene prices to replace at the airport on landing or in the hotel to try to substitute is going to make your stay MISERABLE. Just stock up on the travel sizes or make your own ahead of time. Read the allowances and FOLLOW them. Many carry-ons now have a convenient pocket just for the toiletries, allowing easy access for the screeners. Worth it.

IMHO, the single most important thing to carry (i.e., not the blow-up pillow or the folding footrest or all that other crap)... are NOISE Cancelling headphones with your cellphone/ipad/ipod/ or old time mp3 player stocked with your favorite music. Chosen carefully, it can keep you sane when all about you is chaos (even with very unhappy infants crying all around you). That and some deep breathing exercises can you you through about ANYTHING>

Then prepare to use all that wasted waiting time, precisely calculating the comparative $$ and time cost of traveling by car or any other means next time. While it might not be a practical alternative, the exercise will be cathartic.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
37. Yep
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:30 PM
May 2017

Sound blocking/cancelling headphones/plugs, or just plain old foam earplugs and an eye mask. I can check into another dimension of space after sitting down. It's like Tommy:

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
44. I literally hate rolling carry-on luggage.
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:47 PM
May 2017

I won't use it, and find it hugely annoying when other passengers waste time by trying to jam their luggage in the overheads. I carry a leather soft briefcase. It holds everything I absolutely must have on arrival and slides very neatly under the seat in front of me. In there, I pack a change of underwear (essential), my pharmaceuticals and my electronics. That, and my travel jacket, are all that go on the plane with me. Everything else is in the baggage compartment.

I don't bother with the noise-cancelling headphones, though. Usually, I read or stare out the window at the geography below. I can block noise mentally, just fine.

hlthe2b

(102,239 posts)
48. Bottom line... LESS (less weight, less size, less clutter) is More..
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:55 PM
May 2017

I have a variety of carry-on bags, depending on where I'm flying. They are all small compared to most and yes, sometimes a small (conformable) non-wheeled shoulder bag is the best. With a bad rotator cuff, I don't go the shoulder bag route too often, but sometimes it is immensely more practical

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
55. I'm not a big fan either
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:29 PM
May 2017

I fought it for years. But the wait at the luggage belt was just too long. So much travel is with co-workers and making them wait was just getting to be too much. Plus, a few too many misdirected luggage incidents. I did get about the smallest bag to be had. Think it is like 18 inches or something. Fits in the oldest of overheads. I can get about 3 days worth in the thing.

EllieBC

(3,014 posts)
24. I would like to add some things (for travelers with children).
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:20 PM
May 2017

Pre-load your kids. By this I mean in the days leading up to the flight talk to them about what is going to happen at the airport and what to expect. The more you pre-load them with the information about what's going on the less likely they are to freak out, have a tantrum, or have a meltdown. This is even more important for those of us who have children with special needs.

Airports are large scary places with lots of strangers, long lines, and weird rules. This is the perfect storm for cranky or anxious kids. Pre-load them with info.

Let them bring a favorite stuffed animal or toy. For bigger kids, this is not the time to have moral issues with screen time. You got a tablet? That's Johnny's now. It will keep him busy.

SNACKS. BRING SNACKS. Full mouths are quiet mouths. I cannot repeat this enough. FULL MOUTHS ARE QUIET MOUTHS. Airline snacks are often pricey and small in quantity. That industrial size bag of goldfish and the tub of raisins? Bring those.

Regarding your car seats: you can often buy a cheap car seat at your destination at Walmart. Especially if it's a booster seat for a bigger kid. Car seats are a pain in the ass in the airport. I know this all too well. If you can spare the extra cash just plan on grabbing another car seat at your destination or borrowing one from some friends or family when you get to your destination.

If you bring your car seat ask them to gate check it. I had a car seat last time lost in the regular checked luggage. That was unpleasant to say the least. So go ahead and have a gate checked.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
46. Great suggestions. I don't have kids, so
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:49 PM
May 2017

I don't think about that much. However, I fly with kids on the plane, and would appreciate it if everyone followed your tips!

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
25. Do they have benches for removing and replacing shoes?
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:20 PM
May 2017

I am at the age and have been through enough problems with my joints that I DO NOT stand while putting shoes on and off, even slip on shoes. My balance is not reliable and every time I have been in hospital for the last five years I have been classified as a fall hazard patient. If there is not a bench, at the very least I need something to hold onto I could easily fall. Shoes loose enough to easily slip on and off are too loose to give the support I need to walk safely and could be a tripping hazard.

Of course, I do not intend to fly anywhere for the rest of my life. My last flight in 1990 was so unpleasant because of the way the airlines treated their customers I have no desire to ever repeat that experience. It was not one particular thing, it was the overall attitude of all of the employees I dealt with even though I was happy and excited to be going on that trip.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
29. Rarely for removing them. Usually for putting them back on.
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:25 PM
May 2017

Sometimes, though, those benches are crowded. It can be a problem, for sure, especially if you have a tough time with balance issues.

LeftInTX

(25,305 posts)
35. They have accomodations.
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:29 PM
May 2017

I absolutely have to sit down put on my shoes. I usually sit down to take them off too.
I wear my New Balance shoes.

I move slow and we flew on July 4th weekend and it was crazy. My husband had to help me. But if I had been alone, I would have been able to get assistance, but gosh it was so crowded that getting that assistance on that particular day would have been a pain.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
49. Good sandals
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:56 PM
May 2017

Like, hiking sandals - the ones that strap on with velcro. Can be worn tight, can come off easy, and also have room for when your feet swell during flight (as often happens).

Even if it is cold, just put on some thick socks - you aren't hiking to the airport.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
73. I have scar tissue from a third degree burn on the top of one foot
Thu May 4, 2017, 07:33 PM
May 2017

I haven't worn sandals since I was eleven years old because of that. Anything with a strap across the top is uncomfortable - a full coverage shoe with a sock is my best bet. I like wearing moccasins, but they are not practical for a lot of walking.

LeftInTX

(25,305 posts)
26. Use the restroom before boarding the plane. BYO water if it is a short flight.
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:23 PM
May 2017

Charge mobile devices at the airport.

I watched Netflix on my phone.
They have a download option, so didn't need WiFi to watch.

WiFi is available on some flights, but not all. Airline WiFi is like $12/flight.

Another thing: If you have a connecting flight at a large airport, you may want to familiarize yourself with the airport beforehand.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
30. All good ideas. I knew I wouldn't get them all in. Thanks.
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:26 PM
May 2017

The restroom before the flight is a very good idea. Restrooms on planes are terrible. I try never to use them.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
27. and..if you can..get to an office and sign up for the Known Traveler Number...
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:24 PM
May 2017

..you will always be TSA pre-check.. you get thru the lines SO MUCH quicker and you don't have to take off your shoes or take out your laptop.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
34. Sure. For frequent flyers, that's a great idea.
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:28 PM
May 2017

Most people, though, fly once a year at most. I'm not sure it's worthwhile for them. I've noticed lately that if I book an exit row seat on the airline I usually fly, I get a pre-check boarding pass every time. I like that.

phylny

(8,380 posts)
28. One thing regarding shoes -
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:25 PM
May 2017

I often see people in flimsy shoes flip flops, crocs, you get the idea. I always wear comfortable shoes - light-weight sneakers or a shoe with laces. The reason I do this is because of the unthinkable: if there's an emergency, I'll be faster and more stable in good shoes and my feet will be protected.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
38. If there's a damned emergency, I'll manage.
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:31 PM
May 2017

For me, convenience is important. So, I plan for what I know will happen. So far, I've never been in an emergency situation.

hlthe2b

(102,239 posts)
50. Absolutely... so stupid to wear anything you could not navigate in, if needed.
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:04 PM
May 2017

Slip-ons are surely practical from a TSA standpoint, but for those that have some foot/ankle or other issues, laced athletic shoes with an orthotic (that TSA will inspect) may be really necessary. It is a hassle to take on/off, but at least I can WALK..

By the way, though you can't argue with TSA, you can surely hold your ground. I have had them try to keep me moving AWAY from the conveyor belt when my purse or cell phone or carry on, had not yet gone through and been returned to me. That is how I have seen countless passengers LOSE their items, either to THEFT (yup, right in front of TSA) or distraction. I will move to the side, but I am not going to let my property leave my sight and you should not either. You may think they would have to provide some restitution for property stolen right under their eyes and as a result of their actions, but I'd bet there are few, if any passengers who have actually prevailed on a claim.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
32. I do all of that
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:27 PM
May 2017

and it's on autopilot. I just do it, but it's nice to see the list. The gate changing thing happens sometimes even after you are sitting and enjoying your coffee. You have to keep looking at your gate every so often. If everyone gets up, get up.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
36. We just had a gate change while waiting at the gate
Thu May 4, 2017, 03:30 PM
May 2017

on our last trip. That's why I listen to announcements at the gate closely. That let us get up and move before it got crowded at the new gate.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
51. Pack a change of underwear in your carry-on bag
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:17 PM
May 2017

Great to have if your luggage gets lost, even temporarily. We missed a connecting flight because of a weather delay and our luggage got misplaced in the interim. Long story, we spent 48 hours in the same clothes before reaching our final destination but at least we had a change of underwear!

Don't over-pack. We never travel with anything more than 1 checked carry-on size bag per person and usually a smaller size bag or backpack for on the plane. Invest in a couple of packing folders that compress a pile of clothes into a neat little package and helps keep clothes from shifting and wrinkling in your suitcase.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
54. Yup. Always. If your checked luggage doesn't arrive, at least you can
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:24 PM
May 2017

change into fresh undies. All prescription meds, too. Never put those in a checked bag.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
56. You know, it still is for me.
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:30 PM
May 2017

If you're prepared, there's no reason it shouldn't be, really. Once you get used to the rules that make it easier, they become second nature and aren't really a problem at all. What I find is that a good attitude going in generally helps make the journey more pleasant. Things like packing at the last minute and having to rush can really you up for a miserable trip.

I do miss the old days with actual food available on planes and more comfort in the seats, but I still enjoy having a trip. I like watching people, too, and airports are an outstanding place to do that. In fact, I used to go to the International Terminal at LAX once in a while, just to watch the travelers. That was before you couldn't go into the secure area without boarding pass. It wouldn't be much fun to do that now.

These days, I buy a nice sandwich to take on the plane, bring the book I'm reading and my wifi tablet. But, mostly, I watch other travelers. Sometimes they're funny. Sometimes they're sad-making, but they're always interesting.

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
62. You're more laid back than I am.
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:46 PM
May 2017

I still have the menu from the first airline flight I ever was on. Filet mignon at 8,000 feet on a twin engine Convair CV240 prop plane. Went in my scrapbook.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
64. I remember those days, too. 'Tain't like that any more.
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:50 PM
May 2017

These days, there are many points at which it's possible to be frustrated or stressed. Avoiding those helps me stay laid back. I'd much rather relax than be stressed, so I plan for that, really.

No filet mignon on today's flights. However, at most airports, you can find a good deli sandwich to take on the plane, and you'll get to eat while the other passengers are waiting for the snack cart to come by.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
57. Get FLIGHT AWARE !!!
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:30 PM
May 2017

It knows more, faster and sooner than those dumb arr/dep boards and the gate agents.

I'm sure you know about this great app but most probably not,

It has saved me several times knowing ahead of time that an incoming flight was just not going to make it in time for my flight to get me to my connecting flight on time.
I have even known when MY flight, sitting at the gate and already boarding was cancelled BEFORE it was announced. So I was 1st in line are customer service to re-book on another flight.

Heh, heh !

😂😄😍😚😎

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
58. Yeah, I have that on my phone. I haven't found it all that useful,
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:32 PM
May 2017

though, really, most of the time. These days, I rarely have a connecting flight to catch.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
59. I fly out of Rochester ny and also do a lot of international flying so pretty much must connect
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:36 PM
May 2017

wherever I go.
But even knowing my flight is cancelled is a big help.
Beat thel rush. 🤗

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
63. That's true. I remember one flight I had being cancelled.
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:46 PM
May 2017

It was the last leg of a three-leg trip and was a short flight. As soon as they announced the cancellation, my wife and I headed for the car rental counter. We drove that final leg and arrived before the next flight even would take off.

My goal at airports and on planes is to avoid every potential point of stress. Who needs that? That's the reason for most of the tips, really. If I can avoid stress and frustration, I'm halfway toward having a good journey.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
60. I respectfully disagree with most of these tips
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:37 PM
May 2017

1. You should never have to print a boarding pass anymore these days. Everything can be stored on your phone. Also, I definitely think you should keep those toiletries in your carry-on. It's quite easy to do so as long as you follow the guidelines. You really don't want to have to deal with buying those items when you land.

2. Wearing a jacket when it's warm does not make any sense. The less you need to have with you on the plane or on your person the better. Plus, important items have a tendency to fall out of jacket pockets.

3. Definitely do NOT want to show up early at the airport. It is absolute torture to be sitting endlessly what is often a small and cramped waiting area jam packed with people. Nothing relaxing about that at all. The ideal is to try to time it so that you get to your gate pretty soon before boarding begins.

4. Never check your bag outside the terminal. The odds of it getting lost or stolen in those circumstances increase significantly. If you have to check a bag, you can get it checked inside the terminal. A little more peace of mind that way.

5. Not a great idea to have your ID in your hand until you need it. Just wait until you get to the TSA person, and then take out your ID. Not that complicated or inconvenient.

6. You can ignore the signs that everyone ignores. Especially if you prepared ahead of time. There won't be any information on them that you don't already know (hence why people ignore them).

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
66. To each his or her own, I suppose.
Thu May 4, 2017, 04:58 PM
May 2017

I've watched too many people trying to pull up boarding passes on their phones in frustration to bother with that. A paper boarding pass is far simpler and doesn't ever have a battery that's running low.

The jacket isn't for warmth. It's for temporary storage of pocket junk. The pockets in mine have flaps with buttons or zippers on the pockets. Nothing ever falls out. And it's a useful pillow on the flight.

You may not enjoy sitting around in airports, but I do. I find the variety of people who are there to be interesting.

So far, I've never had a curb-checked bag go astray. If you arrive early, that's very unlikely to occur really. The lines at the check-in counter are often a pain in the butt, so I avoid them.

I disagree about the ID in hand. I don't want to be bothered with fishing it out in the TSA line.

As for the signs, from time to time there's something new on them. If not, it takes only a second to check. For a lot of people who rarely fly, the information is not remembered, and my tips were designed really for those people. It's amazing how many people slow things up by not doing what was asked on those signs, really. If everyone followed those instructions, TSA lines would move much faster, actually. So, I included that in my tips. I can't even count the number of times I've been delayed by people ahead of me who had no idea what they were supposed to be doing.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
69. Fair enough
Thu May 4, 2017, 05:13 PM
May 2017

Maybe our experiences have been in different airports, but having most recently been at the Newark airport for an extended period of time, I can tell you that experience was an extremely unpleasant one (with past experiences in the other NY area airports not being much better).

I get what you are saying with boarding passes, but printing seems unnecessary these days (and also inconvenient for those without ready access to a printer). Being able to do it on the phone means one less loose piece of paper to worry about carrying.

I understand that the jacket is not for warmth - I was just saying that if it's hot, the last thing you want is a jacket. Also, I find the less I have with me on the plane the better.

Another tip you gave that I respectfully disagree with (but didn't mention) was keeping your carryon under your seat. To me that makes traveling very uncomfortable with legroom being bad enough these days as it is . I always make a point to get things in the bin.

With respect to curb-checked bag, maybe I'm just paranoid on that score. I've heard a bad story or two, but I've never used that service myself.

I get what you are saying about ID in hand, but I've seen people in line holding those things and it also seems a tad risky in terms of dropping it or someone nefarious grabbing it or what have you. Again, could be overly cautiousness on my part.

With the signs, sure, if it just takes a second, you can check. But generally speaking they are the same signs that were there the last time. I guess if you are super infrequent to flying, they can be important, but if that's the case, you really should make sure you know what you are doing ahead of time.

In any event, I appreciate your insights and respect that different people have different airport experiences.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
86. Newark.. yeah, I used to go through there a lot.. mostly to China and Europe.
Thu May 4, 2017, 10:05 PM
May 2017

Terminal C is just fine. Quite nice, actually..
It's A and B that suck. If I ever had more than an hour in either one of those I hop the shuttle over to C..

Of course the Wi-Fi in all of them blows.... Boingo Spot or whatever that ting is...


jeesh... in, oh say Incheon.. you're off the plane and you have FASST WI-FI like 100+ Mbs

It even works in the underground train that take you to the main terminal...

Pretty much the case in the civilized world as well.. Tokyo, Honk Kong, Singapore, Amsterdam, Oslo, Frankfort, Lisbon.. St Petersburg even..

 

JoeStuckInOH

(544 posts)
68. You missed steps #0 and #11b ... BYOB
Thu May 4, 2017, 05:04 PM
May 2017

Bring your own booze.

Step 0
Go to liquor store and get a handful of mini-liquor bottles (50mL). They are usually $1-3 each. You can fit a bunch of them in the 1 quart ziplock bag the TSA allows you to carry through security and aboard the aircraft. And YES... it's 100% legal to bring mini liquor bottles through checkpoints so long as they're in the clear 1 quart TSA-approved bag.

Step 11b
Find the nearest beverage kiosk or food station in the terminal near you. Buy a couple bottles of coke, orange juice, cranberry juice, sprite, or whatever you like to mix your drinks into. Sip off about 1/4-1/3 of your beverage to make room for the liquor and then top it off with your mini bottles of booze. Drink now or (for especially long flights) drink later.

Me personally? I pound a few mini Tito's vodkas in some OJ or cranberry juice drinks while waiting for others to board the aircraft. I usually board as close to last as possible because I hate waiting on a hot stuffy smelly plane for 40 minutes while everyone else boards around me. I can usually get a nice buzz on before I'm seated and then fall asleep before the cabin is even sealed. If I'm lucky I wake up when the wheels touch down. If not so lucky... well then time to get some Tomato Juice from the flight attendant for round #2.

 

JoeStuckInOH

(544 posts)
85. Full disclosure... simply having the liquor is legal but drinking it can be a gray area.
Thu May 4, 2017, 09:17 PM
May 2017

In general, you're not allowed to walk around the airport with open containers. Alcohol consumption is typically reserved to restaurant premises in the terminal that have alcohol permits. That being said... nobody's going to think twice about someone drinking what looks like pop or juice walking around the terminal.

The federal laws governing drinking ON PLANES stipulates you can only drink alcoholic beverages "served to you by an in-flight attendant". Basically, if you want to be on the right side of the law, simply give the bottles to an attendant and have them give it back to you... so there, they've "served" it to you. Or you could retrieve it from your pocket and pour it yourself after they walk away because nobody's going to care.

As always, getting visibly intoxicated or sloppy in an airport or on a plane is a really BAD idea.

Sidenote on public drinking... In college, I used to walk to (and sit in) class while drinking white Russians or irish coffee from a clear starbucks frappuccino glass. I'm sure everyone assumed it was just iced coffee.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
72. Sometimes super-efficiency backfires
Thu May 4, 2017, 06:17 PM
May 2017

In anticipation of needing my bottle of water and my magazines onboard, I took them out of my carry-on and held them separately in a little plastic bag as I was in line to board. The gate attendant yelled at me that I had "three carry-on items" (I also had a purse) and I needed to put the water bottle and magazines BACK in my carry-on so I'd have only two carry-ons. I told her I had only gotten them out early so I wouldn't have to pull them out of my carry-on when I got to my seat in the plane. In punishment for my trying to explain, she sent me to the back of the line.

So I stuffed my bottle of water and magazines back in my carry-on, rolled it on board, and then had to STOP in the aisle as I got them back out of the carry-on, holding up the line of passengers behind me.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
75. Ah, one of those...
Thu May 4, 2017, 07:52 PM
May 2017

Sometimes, you do run into a weird one when you have items out of a bag, which have their own bag.

I keep one of those collapsible nylon shopping bag thingies (the ones that roll up into a tiny ball) handy, so whatever I'm carrying can be quickly dumped it the instant "one bag".

The "carry on plus personal item" rule is somewhat discriminatory, given that women are more likely to be carrying a purse in the first place. So if you have a carry-on, a purse, and a lunch or snack, then you have the dreaded THREE BAGS!

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
78. Great tips. I would add some pre-flight tips
Thu May 4, 2017, 08:34 PM
May 2017

I used to fly a lot. Less now.

I try to watch what I eat and drink in the days preceding my flight. I make sure I'm fully hydrated for a few days before flying, and then I don't overdo liquids in the hours preceding my flight so I don't have to be too concerned about nature's call on the plane.

As for what I eat, I don't want to have to deal with any digestive issues when traveling. I'm not going to be the one responsible for the "silent but deadly" noxious fumes.

Croney

(4,659 posts)
79. Seinfeld ruined the outside bag check.
Thu May 4, 2017, 08:34 PM
May 2017

I just can't do it.

Otherwise I'm a smart flyer. TSA approved, travel light. I do have to say "I beep" to make sure they direct me to the scanner so I don't have to get more than a brief pat-down. Lots of metal in me.

I try to be inconspicuous. Get on the plane, be polite but don't encourage any chit-chat. Smile at parents of little kids. Be wary.

JDC

(10,127 posts)
80. #11 good call
Thu May 4, 2017, 08:40 PM
May 2017

I fly at least every other week. The gate changes all the time.

Also, if you can afford it, get yourself a pre-check KTN(Known Traveler Number). It's about $80 and lasts 5 years. Pre-Check is worth its weight in gold imo.

KatyMan

(4,190 posts)
81. Everything in this post is perfect.
Thu May 4, 2017, 08:49 PM
May 2017

There are so many things in air travel out of our control, but we can make all of our lives easier and smooth things along for our fellow persons if we just make ourselves aware of our surroundings and fellow humans when out in public spaces.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
83. Things that make air travel easier for me
Thu May 4, 2017, 09:01 PM
May 2017

1) Weigh your bags at the stations provided at the airport. You will be hit with steep fees if checked bags exceed 50 lbs (I travel for months not days).

2) If the airline offers to gate-check your bag for free, I'm the first one to volunteer as tribute. I would have checked the thing if not for the fees I'm trying to avoid (when I travel on business, I'm allowed one checked bag, but again this is for months not days).

3) If you are staying in a hotel-- they have toiletries with the room. Using the hotel shampoo, etc saves you from having to pack the liquids in your carryon.

4) When all else fails, locate the bar nearest your terminal. Drink up.

(I don't have a printer, so all my boarding passes are printed at the airport).

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
84. And this is why I only fly when absolutely required.
Thu May 4, 2017, 09:03 PM
May 2017

Which is usually no more than one time per year. This is too much crap to put up with in order to travel. And, it's all for show. I've gotten by TSA (accidentally) with conditioner and lotion in a carry-on, and numerous people have carried firearms in the airport.

It seems like a dog and pony show, more than anything. I don't think we are any safer. I support additional air marshals, and perhaps we can use some of the screening techniques deployed in other international airports. But an hour and a half to board a flight is just too much -- especially if trying to travel with children.

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