and by the people who have been applauding him.
From the responses to just one OP that advocated using gay slurs as Colbert did, these are the real thoughts of real DUers in the LGBT community who spoke up to say that jokes like Colbert's aren't any less hurtful coming out of a progressive's mouth than out of a RWers mouth:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029012573
I'm gay, and I hate being gay used as an insult.
I think you're wasting your time using reason with this particular op however.
Apparently, homophobia is OK...sometimes.
The only people I see calling for Colbert's head are hypocritical republicans who couldn't care less about homophobia. As I said in another post, the irony here is the RW is howling about homophobia, while the left, our supposed allies, is ignoring the homophobia. This isn't the be all to end all of anti-gay insults, and as far as Colbert is concerned, he is very gay positive, but it doesn't change the fact it is demeaning to gay people.
Some animals are more equal than others. Apparently, we need to be 'splained to as to why using homophobia is OK when our side does it to "bad" people.
And while some people die on that hill to use gross language at Trump and Putin
Trump's actually doing damage to LGBTQ communities with his new Religious Liberty EO.
I'd love to see some of the folks who really really want to be able to call Trump and Putin gay stand up for the actual LGBTQ community instead of using us as a prop, allowing us to be collateral damage, demeaning us, and dismissing us while Trump tears our communities apart:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39798989
Seems like we're getting it from both sides, and I wish our allies would stop and listen for a moment every now and than, y'know?
So I'm waiting for you to call them N*****s.
They would certanly find it an insult, and if there aren't weapons removed from your arsenel, it must be perfectly fine for you to use.
Go ahead. I'm waiting.
Although I suspect you know very well how offensive that would be to people you claim are your allies - for exactly the same reason that calling somene gay as an insult is offensive to members of the LGBT community.
Unprecedented times do not make it acceptable to use people you claim are your allies as a battering ram. In fact, it is times like these that make it even more important that we act gently with those on our side - and that includes listening when members of a group to which you claim to be an ally ask you to step off of their foot.
I get it, I'm not an idiot
They're not attacking gay men like myself with their rhetoric when they're saying that Trump and Putin are having sex together. They're using gay imagery and iconography to make fun of Trump and Putin's toxic masculinity. And yeah, it's pretty funny sometimes.
I also got called fag and cocksucker for decades.
So, every time you use those words out loud in front of people, you might be pushing one young gay kid further into the closet because he thinks it must be SO WRONG to be gay that they're using it to insult these terrible people.
Does it bother Trump and Putin? Yeah, absolutely. In Putin's case, it likely means that he's going to put MORE pressure on homosexuals in Russia, and they're already rounding them up in Chechnya and telling mothers to KILL THEIR GAY CHILDREN SO THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T HAVE TO!
So pardon me when I ask for my allies to please not use homosexuality as an insult. I'm not demanding it, and I know it's not gonna stop. The target is just too juicy. I just wish sometimes that my allies on the left weren't so eager to try and upset and demean a strong man literally killing gay people with "Haha, he's a gay!" jokes.
As a lesbian, you are NO ally of mine
if you use being gay as an insult. Period.
Allies cannot claim permission to use words that have been used as weapons against those they claim to be allies to. That is permission that is given only on an individual basis and, as an ally, is limited to using those words in the exclusive company of the individual who granted that permission.
You are not a strong supporter of the gay community when you ignore the voices of the gay community when we tell you it is unacceptable to use being gay as an insult. Period.
As for the Democratic party - please. It is just barely and recently on the right side of this issue. Remember the 2012 presidential election, when all the candidates opposed same gender marriage? Remember DOMA? Remember DADT? Remember Rick Warren?The Democratic party has a long history of standing in our way and on our toes. Maybe, in a decade or so, it will have a long enough track record to have earned a bare minimum of trust.
Unprecedented times does not give you the right to insult me by declaring that Trump and Putin are vile becasuse - like me - they are gay.
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