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workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I hope Duh Furor doesn't have them all arrested.
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)Trump will wait until tomorrow to have them arrested.
Initech
(100,068 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,820 posts)I'm too far away or I would have engaged in it. I'll be at my Congressman's office this afternoon after work for a bit.
marybourg
(12,631 posts)About the Trumpcare bill.
There's so much to protest, it's hard to know what to protest first. Over at our Senators', they're going to protest about Russia this afternoon.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)I call, raise money, whatever. I love it that these college students are coming out now. I feel a sense that the torch is being or will be passed. For a time, I wasn't sure. That is one of the few things that give me hope.
I agree it's great seeing college students rise up like this (I wish we saw more of it during the general election last year). To be fair, these are likely students who have always been engaged in politics, even before our current horror show in the White House. I'm guessing most of these students are George Washington University students, its main campus is in downtown Washington (well foggy bottom), just 4 blocks from the White House (there's probably a few Americans university, Georgetown and Howard University students mixed in there too but those campuses don't have the easy access to the White House GWU does, where it's walking distance).
As a former student at George Washington in the not too distant past during the end of the Bush years and the early Obama years I can tell you the school has long prided itself on the political engagement of its students. It's location in the heart of Washington attracts many civically minded young people, so students there are usually much more politically engaged than what's seen at most college campuses (some schools made big events of homecoming, big football games, etc. at GW we made big events of things like a presidential debate, where there would be black tie viewing parties thrown not just by campus political groups, but fraternities too). While I was there it was a fairly common occurrence for there to be these kinds of spontaneous demonstrations. On the night of Obama's election to the Presideny I was part of a crowd that sprung up outside the White House, that grew into the thousands I'd say and it was purely spontaneous, no prior planning or anything like that, in the joyous jubilation that spread across the city as the networks called the race for Obama, people wanted to celebrate and just naturally began moving towards the White House (where the huge crowd of people chanted for hours to chants of "yes we can" "yes we did" and group sing alongs of "hey hey hey goodby", knowing Bush was in the residence that evening). While most of us celebrating outside the White House were students, as time went by more and more people from all walks of life began arriving (various networks showed live footage of the crowd growing outside the White House that night during their election coverage), a sense of celebration spread throughout the blocks around the White House, people were kind to one another, strangers would come up and hug you. On my walk back to my apartment I hailed a taxi and he gave me the ride for free. It's an experience I continue to be so thankful i got to be a part of and that i was in Washington on that historic night (and is a stark contrast to the feelings felt election night 2016, where I had a feeling unlike any I've ever had, literally just sick to my stomach, unable to sleep, a deep sense of gloom, even doom). A similar spontaneous demonstration (more a celebration) occurred on the night Obama announced he ordered a raid that killed Bin Laden. I think on nights or days where big events happen, it just feels natural for many GW students to begin moving towards the White House.
Ok I'm blabbing on for way too long. I just wanted to say, demonstrations like this aren't really new for for students from Washington universities, they are usually always pretty politically engaged, it's why many of them wanted to attend school in the capital. That said, I'd imagine in the current environment they're even MORE engaged. It really is great to see.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)but I wish I could have gotten licensed in DC and Colorado, as I was invited to do, back in financially challenged times through law school, and in single parent baby mode. There were other necessary priorities.
Good background explanation. Thanks
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)We, the People... and we must never forget that!
Lock. Him. Up.!!!!!!!!
Demtexan
(1,588 posts)Everybody stays home.
Hit the bastards in the pocket book.
Other countries do this.
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)but I'm retired so it isn't much of a sacrifice for me. I could stay home for weeks without a problem.
Hekate
(90,676 posts)...are many and historical. Diversity of population is one. Try to herd these cats. Geography is certainly a part of it: America is most of an entire continent, unlike, say, France. Culturally and politically, we are sharply divided and that is along geographical lines as well.
I could come up with more, but the bottom line is that we have to use our energies in other ways, and historically we have done so.
Sign up with Indivisible, for starters. Go to those town halls when your congressman is home. This is working. Attempting to get a "general strike" going will not.
Demtexan
(1,588 posts)Sometimes more is needed.
With the government in the hands of republicans calling them will not do much good.
Look at Trump care. The house still passed it.
It might make get passed the senate.
It might work with enough democrats in office but not now.
My rep.is a real known democrat.
The senators are republicans.
I called on the heath care bill and two letters.
What happened.
Now with what just happened with the head of the FBI
I do not see the point.
At some point Americans will have to take a stand.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)n/t
Demtexan
(1,588 posts)A family friend to.
She came to my father's funeral.
We spent 3 hours talking in the chapel.
She brought a american flag also that flew over the capitol.
My father knew her very well.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)n/t
Demtexan
(1,588 posts)I admire her also.
marybourg
(12,631 posts)It's like voting: just because you don't "win" each time you perform the simple action, doesn't mean democracy doesn't work. Democracy require vigilance and, sometimes, discomfort. Keep protesting, keep calling, texting, e-mailing, writing. It may not produce results today, but it does produce results.
Demtexan
(1,588 posts)Used to be a precinct judge.
I am not telling anyone not protest or making phone calls.
Go for get.
Hell I almost got killed at a Halliburton protest.
Like I said we heading into unknown times.
Hope things work out for the best.
marybourg
(12,631 posts)joined only 2 other publicans to vote with the Dems to retain an Obama regulation restricting harmful methane emissions on Federal land. Did my repeated exhortations to him to "put country ahead of party work"? Does this mean it pays to put in the effort? Sure as hell does. Stay positive! Our democracy depends on it.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029043208
Demtexan
(1,588 posts)Going to a convention and then out of town.
Just to relax.
Who knows what will be happening in the weeks to come.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Inconvenience we are causing! Home for an undeserved, paid, 11 day weekend , and can't get out without being confronted. Their constituents who support tbem can't get through either, and they are being ignored too. Dems are doing the town halls from other districts when the Repubs won't.
I agree. It is like voting. It is thd sticking together and the nawing, perpetual pressure of the group.
There is a coup going on, and we, elected Dems (make sure we get them active, not just voting!) and the press are about our only hope.
CrispyQ
(36,462 posts)Emails of thanks to reps/senators who vote our way & emails of encouragement to do the right thing & put country before party to the repubs. We have to let them know that there policies are unpopular to the majority, even if they choose to do otherwise.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)To vote is not enough. I think it is important to call about miner votes that are wrong, just to let them know, you are being watched and we will hold you accountable.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)I would only add that America hasn't gone through something like Trumpgate before, so who knows what Americans may become capable of doing.
And yes, before anyone asks. I do think that Trumpgate is worse than Watergate.
Demtexan
(1,588 posts)I was was a kid.
Nixon was bad but Trump has sold out country.
We have russians running the country now.
Putin is the president.
At some point something will have to happen.
Protesting will only work so far.
I have done my share of protesting.
I not making another phone call.
You have hit them where it hurts.
Hekate
(90,676 posts)...you really do not remember the Civil Rights movement and the Vietnam War protests. In addition, you have not yet taken the lesson of what is happening at the town hall meetings when GOP congressmen are confronted by masses of outraged constituents who have just realized what a real death panel looks like.
Demtexan
(1,588 posts)I was a kid and watching tv.
We had fighting chance in those days.
We enough democrats in congress to make a change.
Now it is a different.
The republicans are in total control.
Hell I do not know what will happen.
I hoping for the best.
My father a union organizer.
I learned a lot from him.
We are in unknown times now.
We need to start thinking outside the box.
MADem
(135,425 posts)strike for just a few hours,not days on end.
The goal is inconvenience, not to cripple the economy. The point is made when people don't get what they want when they want it.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Doctors? Nurses? Airline personnel? Truck drivers? Grocery checkers? EMT personnel? Fire fighters? Air traffic controllers?
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)onit2day
(1,201 posts)really are guilty. "Lock him up" should be shouted from every rooftop.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)I think that phrase is going to come back to bite him in his orange ass one day. Hope so, at least!
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)dhill926
(16,337 posts)perhaps that day is coming...
Hekate
(90,676 posts)...essential departments, and the GOP has spent 30 years trying to prove that government does not work.
But perhaps that is not what you meant.
dhill926
(16,337 posts)talking protests. Size and scope of which can't be ignored.
Hekate
(90,676 posts)...of anti-war protestors during the same era. I don't know how in hell you ignore that -- but somehow they did, and here's how:
These marches take place on weekends, not during the work-week. There's plenty of planning and advance notice (often months) and a permitting process, and a well-defined parade route. Lotta port-a-potties put in place.
It's not "spontaneous", and anyone left in town of a weekend can leave unless they are essential infrastructure like cops. POTUS and Congress are nowhere around. The city does not implode.
So your objective has to be a bit different. Or your methods.
dhill926
(16,337 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Remember a story from a ex-Republican stating if we as a Party screw this up,the Pitchforks and Torches will come out after us.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Representatives K. Michael Conaway of Texas, the newly minted Republican leader of the House Intelligence Committees investigation, and Adam B. Schiff of California, the top Democrat, said they were inviting more witnesses and requesting documents effectively restarting the investigation that halted in recent months amid political infighting.
Those witnesses will include Sally Q. Yates, ..................
Conspiracy to Obstruct Justice. Comey investigating Trump/co-conspirators for Hatch Act violations.
Truth-suppressing acts by co-conspirators Sessions, Flynn, Kushner create liable for Conspiracy to Obstruct Justice. 18 U.S.C. §§ 1621 to 1623 -- Given perjury, subornation of perjury, false declarations, the assertion of a false affirmative statement by an individual testifying under oath accompanied by other obstructive, evasive testimony, such as a false denial of knowledge or memory, an offense may exist. 18 U.S.C. §§ 371 and 372--conspiracies to commit any offense against the United States, or to prevent or retaliate in response to the lawful discharge of the duties of Federal officers ...
18 U.S. Code § 1505 - Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees
..... Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs, or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the law under which any pending proceeding is being had before any department or agency of the United States, or the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which any inquiry or investigation is being had by either House, or any committee of either House or any joint committee of the Congress
Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.
iluvtennis
(19,852 posts)hurple
(1,306 posts)THOUSANDS!
Not just hundreds.
ProfessorGAC
(65,013 posts). . .there were only 5 people when photos show otherwise.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)We need to mount the greatest protest in the history of mankind.
We can do this.
LOCK. THEM. UP.
That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)It's the only thing that might get action on Putin's Pals in DC. There's some speculation that McConnell and Ryan have Russian cash problems too. The only thing that might push impeachment before 2018 is if the stink of corruption gets too strong for the rest of the GOP to ignore.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,013 posts)Zip ties. Even with his tiny hands, those would work
rockfordfile
(8,702 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)ffr
(22,669 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)davekriss
(4,616 posts)iluvtennis
(19,852 posts)rivegauche
(601 posts)Bravo to those folks, hope they can continue protesting until the orange cancer is removed.
rocktivity
(44,576 posts)At the last GOP convention, he convicted Hillary on a lot less evidence...
rocktivity
bucolic_frolic
(43,157 posts)when "Rule of Law!!" enters awareness and becomes a chant.
I doubt very much this is going to blow over in any fashion whatsoever
Americans are having their public assets, commons stolen from them
Americans are having their social assets, safety net stolen from them
Americans are having their financial security, Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security stolen from them
Americans are having their freedoms stolen from them
Americans will not stand for this, because they never did and they never will
Anyone who thinks otherwise is sorely misguided
mzteaze
(448 posts)Considering it was an impromptu protest that gathered steam just yesterday.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)wildeyed
(11,243 posts)We have a local indivisible protest planned for Thom Tillis' office on Friday.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)DNC Chair Tom Perez spoke to protesters gathered outside the White House Wednesday, demanding that a special prosecutor be appointed to investigate Russian contacts with the Trump campaign in the 2016 election. (May 10, 2017)
Thanks for the heads-up, deminks!
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)stage left
(2,962 posts)We had a die in to protest Trumpcare on Main Street in Greenville. There will be another one on Saturday in Spartanburg, SC in front of Trey Gowdy's office. And Tuesday we'll probably be all over the Russian mess in front of Lindsey Graham's office.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)In this administration there are a lot of "hims" who need to be locked up. Just saying.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I wanted to go but spent most of the day cooling my heels in Urgent Care (Okay now, but I won't be marching for awhile).
It's a beautiful thing, the Resistance. Never, ever doubt that it works. It worked resisting the Nazis; it will work here. It won't work tomorrow, or the next day; perhaps not in the next year. But it will work.
PatrickforO
(14,573 posts)It insults ALL Americans.
bresue
(1,007 posts)How can Trump be removed (impeached) with a Republican majority ruled house? Even with an independent council, as we seen with Ken Star over the Clinton probe, the Democratic senate vetoed it. And with Nixon, the impeachment was voted yes by a Democratic majority rule of house and senate.
So, since the Republicans will not do anything, how can Democrats make a change?
randr
(12,412 posts)A chant of "throw him in jail" needs to ring out around our WH 24/7 until the lsos is walked out in shackles.