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kentuck

(111,089 posts)
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:31 AM May 2017

97% of Trump voters still support him in a recent poll.

I saw a report on cable news this morning that quoted a poll that said only 3% of Trump voters do not support him at this time.

What would ever change these people's minds?

How do we explain such a poll?

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97% of Trump voters still support him in a recent poll. (Original Post) kentuck May 2017 OP
My question - where? underpants May 2017 #1
More proof that, as a species, the human race is too stupid to survive. Binkie The Clown May 2017 #2
It's the same 35% of the population... Wounded Bear May 2017 #3
Sadly that's been fairly consistent... WePurrsevere May 2017 #4
Yep, when his policies hit them. Kittycow May 2017 #28
When their "team" has "won" the White House... yallerdawg May 2017 #5
SAD! steve2470 May 2017 #6
It's an apt comparison BannonsLiver May 2017 #18
racists, bigots, misogynists, idiots, i have no time for them spanone May 2017 #7
Well it depends on the poll titaniumsalute May 2017 #8
Less Disturbing Than You Might Think Kentuck ProfessorGAC May 2017 #9
They are as fucked up as he is. CrispyQ May 2017 #10
+1 mountain grammy May 2017 #29
Nothing. They hate America, they hate period! nikibatts May 2017 #11
Within their echo chamber, everything is peachy keen Mr. Ected May 2017 #12
Yes! They exist in a completely different "reality"... VOX May 2017 #22
They've got Kellyanne, etc. treestar May 2017 #25
If Trump denounced racism and bigotry, his numbers would fall. Otherwise, his crowd is happy. Hoyt May 2017 #13
I agree luvMIdog May 2017 #37
I really don't believe that. Demsrule86 May 2017 #14
It doesn't compute. He won with 46% and is polling at 36%. Kahuna7 May 2017 #15
Which leads to my observation gratuitous May 2017 #26
+1 Jarqui May 2017 #36
It's not about whether or not he is "competent" or "effective" ProudLib72 May 2017 #16
Sadly, you're correct Calculating May 2017 #17
Remember that they are exposed to no standard news BainsBane May 2017 #19
Exactly. And if all they listen to is the left version of RW news, moonscape May 2017 #38
The only thing that could change their minds ... etherealtruth May 2017 #20
Reading their comments on Twitter and elsewhere ismnotwasm May 2017 #21
Excellent analysis. With 45, they've got their white privilege intact. VOX May 2017 #23
Trump said he could shoot a guy on 5th Avenue and not lose any support. oberliner May 2017 #24
He didnt win. The machines were hacked by on the ground russian agents Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #27
They do not care what he does so long as he remains in power and is a Republican. LonePirate May 2017 #30
Maybe we don't have to change their (alleged) minds Warpy May 2017 #31
You know, morons... hunter May 2017 #32
97 percent of what?? 36 percent? boston bean May 2017 #33
I know right? These numbers are killin' my math brain cells! crosinski May 2017 #35
It is difficult to admit to being so mistaken? guillaumeb May 2017 #34
Trump's Base. They Support Trump Before The Nation, Before The Party, Trump ALWAYS. Feathery Scout May 2017 #39
If Trump's vote count dropped 1.4 points across the board, several states would have flipped. tritsofme May 2017 #40
That 3% works out to 1.5% net. That would have won Hillary states she lost. nt Blue_true May 2017 #41

underpants

(182,788 posts)
1. My question - where?
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:32 AM
May 2017

If it's not in swing states it doesn't matter. 97% of Mississippi will never turn on him.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
2. More proof that, as a species, the human race is too stupid to survive.
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:33 AM
May 2017

Extinction is right around the corner. Sad.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
4. Sadly that's been fairly consistent...
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:46 AM
May 2017

I Googled to try and find more about the polls you saw and while I didn't find the new ones I found older ones with the same darn 97 and 3%.

The only thing that will change SOME of their minds is if Trump hits them or their loved ones in the wallet or adverse healthcare. For others I think Jesus and a host of singing angels could come down on a bright glowing cloud saying, Trump is the anti Christ, and they still would chose Trump.

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
28. Yep, when his policies hit them.
Fri May 12, 2017, 05:58 PM
May 2017

Right now it's only been four months (in real time haha), so nothing he's done has affected them directly yet. I also think some can't admit that they were wrong, even to themselves.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
5. When their "team" has "won" the White House...
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:48 AM
May 2017

both houses of Congress, the state they live in - it's going to take a beat down to change their minds!

It's on us now! Nothing succeeds like winning!

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
6. SAD!
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:54 AM
May 2017

They remind me of the die-hard fanatic SS troops and foreign mercenaries who died in the Reichstag during the final Russian assault in Berlin.

Yea I went there.

spanone

(135,830 posts)
7. racists, bigots, misogynists, idiots, i have no time for them
Fri May 12, 2017, 11:58 AM
May 2017

anyone who still supports this man is as sick as him

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
9. Less Disturbing Than You Might Think Kentuck
Fri May 12, 2017, 12:02 PM
May 2017

It got what, 44% of the vote of the 52% of people that voted? That's 22.88% of all eligible voters. If 3% now have stated regrets, that bring him down to 22.2%.

This isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

CrispyQ

(36,461 posts)
10. They are as fucked up as he is.
Fri May 12, 2017, 12:08 PM
May 2017

I think a common trait a lot of his supporters have is the refusal to admit when they are wrong - just like Trump. In this case, especially, the evidence of what a horribly compromised man he is, has been there all along, if you were willing to just read a few articles on his business dealings in the past – much less his mocking the disabled reporter, his racist comments, & the Access Hollywood tape. The smart ones are realizing that he really is a fraud, but they will dig in even harder, before they admit that the libtards were right about this sorry man.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
12. Within their echo chamber, everything is peachy keen
Fri May 12, 2017, 12:16 PM
May 2017

And all this uproar about Trump-Russia is simply sour grapes on the part of the Democrats.

These people have been and are being brainwashed. They have been led to believe that any source of news other than the "state-approved" propaganda networks are disseminating false news.

Turn off FOX News, turn off the hate radio, wait 6 weeks, and watch that 97% plummet to 57%. 47%. 37%.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
22. Yes! They exist in a completely different "reality"...
Fri May 12, 2017, 05:32 PM
May 2017

And they do not seek outside (for them) information sources-- the echo chamber has warned them about the Washington Post, NYT, and anything on cable besides Fox -- all are "liberal, left-wing, mainstream media," etc. and are not to be believed. Their bloviating figurehead himself called the media the "enemy of the people," which smacks a bit of Germany c.1933.

I'm afraid these individuals are lost for good. Reaching out to them, trying to appeal to them, is just a waste of time.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
25. They've got Kellyanne, etc.
Fri May 12, 2017, 05:51 PM
May 2017

to make excuses and explanations that are good enough for them.

I have seen several of them say that there is no evidence Donnie has any ties to Russia.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
14. I really don't believe that.
Fri May 12, 2017, 12:19 PM
May 2017

And the good news is it take more than his stupid supporters to get elected. The Democrats committed electoral suicide in the last election...egged on by Russian puppets like Stein...the perfect storm...it is unlikely to ever happen again.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
26. Which leads to my observation
Fri May 12, 2017, 05:56 PM
May 2017

How does a polling outfit identify Trump voters? The ballot is secret (for now), so the only way they can identify a Trump voter is if the voter himself/herself discloses that fact.

So, who is most likely to admit being a Trump voter? I submit that it's someone who is still pleased with Trump as president. Trump voters who have become disillusioned with the chee-toh haired shitgibbon may be too embarrassed to tell anyone that's how they voted.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
36. +1
Fri May 12, 2017, 06:24 PM
May 2017

My reaction as well.

It is by far the worst 100+ days I've ever seen or heard about for a president. And the poll is suggesting a fairly minor 3 point shift? I don't believe it.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
16. It's not about whether or not he is "competent" or "effective"
Fri May 12, 2017, 02:01 PM
May 2017

It is only about how he pisses off the left. These people hate. I mean, they HATE!!! the left. If they have to endure eternity in hell for pissing off one liberal, they will gladly do it.

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
17. Sadly, you're correct
Fri May 12, 2017, 02:13 PM
May 2017

There are some people who are so spiteful that they'd happily see the country burned to the ground so long as it pissed off liberals. You also have the anti-muslim/anti-gay/anti-abortion single issue voters who just blindly vote R every time over those issues.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
19. Remember that they are exposed to no standard news
Fri May 12, 2017, 02:17 PM
May 2017

Fox is probably the least wacko source for their news, and that's saying something.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
38. Exactly. And if all they listen to is the left version of RW news,
Fri May 12, 2017, 06:47 PM
May 2017

i.e. Fox, they aren't getting much actual news at all.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
20. The only thing that could change their minds ...
Fri May 12, 2017, 02:21 PM
May 2017

... would be 45 embracing the idea of racial, ethnic, and gender equality for all.

I will guarantee he would lose their support .... short of that NOTHING will change their feeble minds

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
21. Reading their comments on Twitter and elsewhere
Fri May 12, 2017, 02:31 PM
May 2017

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Trump is merely a prop to them. They sound like Tea party religious people and armchair 1st and 2nd amendment warriors at best. They like the freedom of speech idea when it's their (white) speech. They like guns when it's their (white) guns. They want prisons for brown and black peoples. Some of them sound genuinely stupid, with "God protect President Trump" crap. They are very gullible to conspiracy. They are bigots, and what many of them actually share with certain of the left is a lack of understanding how white supremacy is reflected in..everything.

Trump,with his gross ignorance must seem as one of them, despite the fact he only shares the overt idea or hidden idea of racial supremacy and male entitlement.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
23. Excellent analysis. With 45, they've got their white privilege intact.
Fri May 12, 2017, 05:41 PM
May 2017

Or at least the illusion of same.

Barack Obama was a threat to them; as long as he was in office, their white privilege (which is about all some of these folks have) was threatened. Thus the spike in firearms sales, overt racist behavior, etc.

It would appear that the American Civil War is still being waged.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
27. He didnt win. The machines were hacked by on the ground russian agents
Fri May 12, 2017, 05:56 PM
May 2017

who have been in place for decades.

LonePirate

(13,419 posts)
30. They do not care what he does so long as he remains in power and is a Republican.
Fri May 12, 2017, 06:01 PM
May 2017

Becoming a Democrat is the only thing that will spur these people to oppose him.

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
31. Maybe we don't have to change their (alleged) minds
Fri May 12, 2017, 06:03 PM
May 2017

We just have to step back and wait. Pop some corn, pass the butter, and wait.

The man is a lunatic. Nothing he does is going to make sense to anyone and he's eventually going to start to scare a lot of them.

WE don't do anything. This isn't our mess and we can't fix it for them, not this time. All we can do is hunker down, watch the spectacle, and survive.

Feathery Scout

(218 posts)
39. Trump's Base. They Support Trump Before The Nation, Before The Party, Trump ALWAYS.
Fri May 12, 2017, 06:54 PM
May 2017

This is the Trump following. Nothing will shake them.

I see them at Free Republic and Reddit.

They support Trump to the exclusion of everything else.

Even when Thuh Wall wasn't going to be built, most of Free Republic shrugged it off...and screeched at those who were upset.

There are only 2 things I think he could do to lose his base.

1. Gun Control
2. Denounce Jesus/Christianity

And I'm iffy on the 2nd one.

tritsofme

(17,377 posts)
40. If Trump's vote count dropped 1.4 points across the board, several states would have flipped.
Fri May 12, 2017, 06:56 PM
May 2017

And Hillary would be president. The margin of error on the sub-sample of Trump voters is also probably somewhere around 7-8%, so it's possible they are actually a little bit more elastic.

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