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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Thu May 18, 2017, 06:53 PM May 2017

Oh sweet goddess. More cement for his grave.

Investigators on the House intelligence committees have obtained access to valuable data from the Treasury Department, a development that will open their doors to investigate possible connections between President Donald Trump's business empire and Russians, CNN has learned.

Investigators received access to the financial data this week, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the development.

Sen. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate intelligence committee told reporters Thursday that his committee also had gotten the Treasury Department data.

The Treasury Department's Financial Crimes Enforcement Network -- or FinCEN -- monitors global financing and frequently investigates money laundering. The agency collects data from banks around the world and is a critical source in identifying how shell companies move money.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/05/18/politics/financial-data-intelligence-committees-senate-house/index.html



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Oh sweet goddess. More cement for his grave. (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl May 2017 OP
Dum da DUM dum NastyRiffraff May 2017 #1
Better than just his taxes Pluvious May 2017 #15
Money laundering underpants May 2017 #2
Donnies Campaign Funds Guys better lawyer up bigtime. Wellstone ruled May 2017 #3
Bingo; that's it, I'm fairly sure also babylonsister May 2017 #6
That is where it has been for years now, actually. dixiegrrrrl May 2017 #19
I have always thought that would be a significant part of the investigation Samantha May 2017 #20
I have no faith in the House committee. The Senate Intel Committee...they may actually look ... Honeycombe8 May 2017 #4
It's a malaise May 2017 #5
Well, it is a target rich environment n/t sarge43 May 2017 #8
Now if only they had staff and investigators. L. Coyote May 2017 #7
Hell, with Trump blabbing about everything he does, dixiegrrrrl May 2017 #28
Trump isn't going to say, "Of course I paid the DNC hackers, stupid idiots, who else would." L. Coyote May 2017 #29
Somewhere along the line the GOP bought into Trump funding. gordianot May 2017 #9
The FinCEN raids may have found hard evidence nailing Trump RVN VET71 May 2017 #10
O ye of little faith mobeau69 May 2017 #14
"i don't need your money" bora13 May 2017 #11
There wasn't much of anything he said PatSeg May 2017 #22
RICO! Even rich men go to jail for financial crimes (ask Bernie Madoff) George II May 2017 #12
Every penny of trump's money is laundered russian money???? NightWatcher May 2017 #13
That is what they are investigating. dixiegrrrrl May 2017 #23
I just hope all this is leading somewhere ailsagirl May 2017 #16
Progress notes: dixiegrrrrl May 2017 #24
All true, dixiegrrrrl ailsagirl May 2017 #27
I think RICO when I see something like this. ffr May 2017 #17
K and R Hekate May 2017 #18
K&R. dchill May 2017 #21
K & R malaise May 2017 #25
Kicking. littlemissmartypants May 2017 #26

Pluvious

(4,310 posts)
15. Better than just his taxes
Thu May 18, 2017, 09:25 PM
May 2017

All the details of all the threads will be there, unlike from just seeing his taxes, no ?

underpants

(182,799 posts)
2. Money laundering
Thu May 18, 2017, 07:16 PM
May 2017

I'll be shocked if that isn't where this ends up. Casinos and real estate? Can't get loans inside the US? Does he really have that great of a "brand" to market to people who afford just about anything?

babylonsister

(171,065 posts)
6. Bingo; that's it, I'm fairly sure also
Thu May 18, 2017, 07:36 PM
May 2017

considering people I greatly respect have made such a good case, i.e. Rachel and Pierce.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
19. That is where it has been for years now, actually.
Fri May 19, 2017, 12:41 AM
May 2017

After his bankruptcies in the '80's, banks would not lend to him.
It was Wilbur Ross who saved his ass, working to get favorable terms in the bankruptcies. But after that, it was Russian business partners who "loaned" him money for hotels and etc.
They gave him a cut of the sales, plus a fee for using his name, and maybe or maybe not some management fees. All that money was washed thru the construction and etc.

Some of the hotels went bankrupt after they were built, some before. Check out the Trump Hotel in Toronto for the most recent. and his business partners in each deal are very shady.
The most recent one is that hotel in Baku, where Trump's business partner is

Notoriously Corrupt' Oligarch Family With Ties to Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps
https://tinyurl.com/m6hn8lu

I found that one to be interesting after reading a story that Ivanka went there once a month "to supervise"
a hotel which was miles from where anyone would use one, roadless, and no progress on it trip after trip. So what was she really doing there?

Edited to add:

1. My excerpt keys are not working for some reason.
2. Wayne Barrett wrote a very detailed book on Trump, and his dad, plus one on Guiliani. Worth the time to read it.




Samantha

(9,314 posts)
20. I have always thought that would be a significant part of the investigation
Fri May 19, 2017, 01:35 AM
May 2017

I will be amazed if they find nothing.

Sam

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
4. I have no faith in the House committee. The Senate Intel Committee...they may actually look ...
Thu May 18, 2017, 07:29 PM
May 2017

The Senate Intel Committee may actually review the information (or more accurately, their staffers may).

The House committee, IMO, may well tip Trump off as to what's in the data that may be harmful.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
28. Hell, with Trump blabbing about everything he does,
Fri May 19, 2017, 08:53 PM
May 2017

they don't need many investigators, you would think.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
29. Trump isn't going to say, "Of course I paid the DNC hackers, stupid idiots, who else would."
Fri May 19, 2017, 09:42 PM
May 2017

We know damn well the hack is related to Trump, but iIwant the goods, the proof, and I want anyone and everyone who violated the law to steal the presidency to rot in jail.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
9. Somewhere along the line the GOP bought into Trump funding.
Thu May 18, 2017, 07:53 PM
May 2017

I hope the Trump money cancer spreads to other GOP entities through Trump.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
10. The FinCEN raids may have found hard evidence nailing Trump
Thu May 18, 2017, 08:06 PM
May 2017

But I'm not getting my hopes up even a little. When the s.o.b. is forced to quit or, better still, impeached, tried, and imprisoned -- that's when I'll salute Madame Justice.

But there's a reasonable chance that Trump has kept just a fat enough cushion of "plausible deniability" about any criminal stuff that he'll get away. Nixon, I seem to recall, wasn't actively connected to Watergate and might have stayed in power if he hadn't decided to save his cronies via a criminal cover-up.

Trump, unlike the Trickster, would throw his own mother and children under the bus to save his hide. I can hear him whining about how "it wasn't me, it was Flynn and Bannon, and Priebus, and Miller, and Spicer, and Tiffany . . . ." If there's no obvious smoking gun, no fingerprints, no videos -- or audio tapes! -- he'll walk away free or, worse (much worse) stay in office and rip us all off until 2020.

mobeau69

(11,144 posts)
14. O ye of little faith
Thu May 18, 2017, 09:04 PM
May 2017

He's going down in flames.

The worm has turned.

The hens are coming home to roost.

Karma is a bitch.

It really doesn't get any better than this, my friend!

bora13

(860 posts)
11. "i don't need your money"
Thu May 18, 2017, 08:06 PM
May 2017

he said. "I'm rich."

But he got donations anyhow. Wonder if they were all from
various deplorables willing to show him how much they care.

PatSeg

(47,428 posts)
22. There wasn't much of anything he said
Fri May 19, 2017, 03:06 PM
May 2017

on the campaign trail that wasn't a blatant lie. People who know Trump well, knew he didn't have the money he claimed. He honestly thought he could go to rallies and say whatever he wanted and no one would call him on it. He is not in Trump World anymore, totally out of his league.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
23. That is what they are investigating.
Fri May 19, 2017, 03:29 PM
May 2017

Some of what he is paid comes from the sales of condos and room rents of his hotels an other buildings,
But the actual building of them seem to relay on various partners who are all described as wealthy foreign businesses men.
and Eric Trump has been quoted as saying they relied on endless streams of money from Russian.

ailsagirl

(22,896 posts)
16. I just hope all this is leading somewhere
Thu May 18, 2017, 09:34 PM
May 2017
How long will we have to wait before that clod is ousted for his outrageous transgressions???
(not a rhetorical question)

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
24. Progress notes:
Fri May 19, 2017, 07:34 PM
May 2017

1.It’s official: James Comey agrees to publicly testify about Donald Trump for Senate Intel Committee.
CNN

2.Jared Kushner named "person of interest" in Russia investigation!!!!

3.White House lawyers research impeachment.
CNN

All seems to add up to:

ffr

(22,669 posts)
17. I think RICO when I see something like this.
Thu May 18, 2017, 09:49 PM
May 2017

Because his finances just boil down to that. He has no real income, it's all dirty money.

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