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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 06:13 AM Jun 2017

I have a bad feeling about Comey's testimony.

He will not say anything damning.

We know he had a meeting with Mueller and it's speculated that this was to coordinate what he can say and what he cannot say as not to ruin Mueller's investigation.

Comey will hold back. And the mere fact that he doesn't send Trump to hell will be played up as a full exoneration of Trump. And lots of people will believe that spin.

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I have a bad feeling about Comey's testimony. (Original Post) DetlefK Jun 2017 OP
I see his upcoming testimony another way. no_hypocrisy Jun 2017 #1
You know what the BIG payoff is here? Miles Archer Jun 2017 #7
Trumps' people put out an ad this morning attempting to discredit Comey ahead of FailureToCommunicate Jun 2017 #24
When you have bottomless piles of money, this is where you can spend it. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2017 #32
don the con will try anything bdamomma Jun 2017 #42
I love it. BigDemVoter Jun 2017 #43
It's about Meuller, not Comey. Miles Archer Jun 2017 #2
He will give testimony to what happened in meetings Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #28
Agreed. GetRidOfThem Jun 2017 #30
I am worried also dhol82 Jun 2017 #3
Trump said that to save face. He CAN'T invoke privilege justiceischeap Jun 2017 #8
IMO, it's TODAY'S testimony that will be equally or more damning than Comey's. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2017 #25
yep todays is gonna be YUUUGE too.. when does it start? samnsara Jun 2017 #29
what time is it going to be on? bdamomma Jun 2017 #46
10 am EST nt justiceischeap Jun 2017 #49
Ha! This means war! Blueplanet Jun 2017 #51
Unfortunately, I agree. nt cwydro Jun 2017 #4
for me yes and no mnmoderatedem Jun 2017 #5
CaN someone please tell me why its important whether or not Comey told Auntie Bush Jun 2017 #50
This is going to be a slow burn but most of the damage to Trump is already done underpants Jun 2017 #6
At minimal definitely a joke. The entire world, practically, thinks of him as a RKP5637 Jun 2017 #31
Drip***Drip***Drip*** democratisphere Jun 2017 #9
The GOP won't do sh** with it unless they feel threatened. They're all cut out of the same cloth. RKP5637 Jun 2017 #35
Agreed oberliner Jun 2017 #10
Exactly. So many are expecting some impeachment-worthy testimony. Doubtful. nt 7962 Jun 2017 #23
Worst case it might embolden Trump even more if little is found on him. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2017 #38
I don't trust ANY of them. Every day we read the headlines... Guilded Lilly Jun 2017 #11
As M$M rakes in tremendous profits raking one end against the other, perpetuating every little RKP5637 Jun 2017 #39
I'm more interested in what he says to a grand jury than what he says in a public hearing Snake Plissken Jun 2017 #12
Comey's testimony is for Comey's benefit. He will testify about his own behaviors and WinkyDink Jun 2017 #13
Comey is not our friend madokie Jun 2017 #14
The reason I think you're wrong leftynyc Jun 2017 #15
His mere presence is damning. Persisted Jun 2017 #16
Well said PJMcK Jun 2017 #21
It should not be interpreted as a "bad feeling" when adults are trying to do the right thing. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #17
Relax... this is another brick in the wall... Adrahil Jun 2017 #18
K&R!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2017 #40
In the back of my mind I have a lingering fear Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #19
When the time comes, when Comey's under a different sort of pressure, Sugar Smack Jun 2017 #20
In this case, the prelude may be worse for Trumpy than the main event. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2017 #22
Nope....the fact he is testifying in public is key ashredux Jun 2017 #26
I see Republicans focusing on the leaks. Morning Joe thinks that'll damage GOP, I'm catbyte Jun 2017 #27
What reason would Comey have to spare Trump? Nitram Jun 2017 #33
To be Honest, Doug the Dem Jun 2017 #34
What you said. Sugar Smack Jun 2017 #41
Thanks, Sugar Doug the Dem Jun 2017 #53
I'll be very surprised if we don't hear all about Carlos Danger. ucrdem Jun 2017 #36
Of course not, the damning things will be saved for prosecution. PubliusEnigma Jun 2017 #37
Hillary's emails will be a heavy focus JenniferJuniper Jun 2017 #44
Oh, I am SURE they will try to distract... Adrahil Jun 2017 #47
This kills me... Zoonart Jun 2017 #45
exactly power in numbers as they say bdamomma Jun 2017 #48
It's not his job to damn Trump Loki Liesmith Jun 2017 #52
Just the facts Zambero Jun 2017 #54
I'm beyond anticipating anything good coming from anything. Disappointed too many times. Fla Dem Jun 2017 #55
There is a mountain of extremely dirty money arrayed against his upsetting any apple carts. Orsino Jun 2017 #56

no_hypocrisy

(46,116 posts)
1. I see his upcoming testimony another way.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 06:22 AM
Jun 2017

Trump will get "the Hillary Treatment", whereby Comey will put on record just enough to create high suspicion and let dots be connected.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
7. You know what the BIG payoff is here?
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 06:28 AM
Jun 2017

We're getting a flood of stories about how Trump has "cleared his schedule" during the scheduled time for the testimony, how he intends to "live tweet" and "fight back."

If Comey does exactly what you've described...and I believe he WILL...that's going to infuriate Trump MORE, because he's looking for a "big fight," something that (in his mind) might "end" this all on Thursday by discrediting Comey, and I don't see that happening AT ALL.

I think Comey will simply affirm that there is meat on these bones, that Trump absolutely needs to be investigated.

Note something I posted last week...Cornyn went on record as saying he believes the Senate investigation will be "wrapped up" by September. Trump would love that, and he'd love it even more if it happened earlier.

Life is what happens when you're making other plans.



FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
24. Trumps' people put out an ad this morning attempting to discredit Comey ahead of
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:48 AM
Jun 2017

his appearance. It sounds just like a negative campaign ad. Desperate? You bet cha.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
32. When you have bottomless piles of money, this is where you can spend it.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:02 AM
Jun 2017

The right wing is stuffed with money. They can do this because... they can. They want to neutralize the narrative. It will only comfort about 15% of the population. The rest will live in the real world and understand the facts.

Trumpy and the GOP are now beholden to Russia and Putin because the entire GOP leadership used their campaigns to launder Russian money. The DOJ knows it, Mueller knows it. This is also why the GOP is sitting on their thumbs and holding their collective breath. They're hoping for a miracle what will save their asses, but they underestimated Trumpy's severe craziness-- the craziness that will bring all of them down.

bdamomma

(63,852 posts)
42. don the con will try anything
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:09 AM
Jun 2017

to hold on to his stupid base. I want to see him tweet when Comey is at the Committee Hearing tomorrow. Could someone tell me what time this is going to be on this morning, Coats will be on this morning.

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
43. I love it.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:09 AM
Jun 2017

I'm certain our self-described, vagina-grabbing leader won't be able to leave his goddamned Twitter account alone! He will hang himself with his ridiculous and embarrassing comments.

I absolutely LOATHE him more than can be expressed.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
2. It's about Meuller, not Comey.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 06:22 AM
Jun 2017

Comey's not going to be taking Trump down. He can't. He can offer testimony that is damaging, but I don't anticipate hearing anything new.

I am assuming that in terms of any bombshells or damaging evidence, that's something Comey gave Meuller in private, if at all.

He'll basically deny that he told Trump he was not under investigation, and that Trump asked him to give Flynn a pass.

And since we already know that, I'm not looking for a big "reveal."

I will be extremely surprised if Comey addresses anything that's not already in the 24/7 news cycle.

As frustrating as it is, the outcome of all of this is going to be worked out behind closed doors, not in a televised hearing.

Demsrule86

(68,578 posts)
28. He will give testimony to what happened in meetings
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:57 AM
Jun 2017

He will say he never told Trump he was under investigation...and he will say Trump asked him to stop the investigation...that is enough. Comey is coming to fight back against Trump and would not come if he didn't have something to say...Trump is scared enough to run commercials...honestly, I never thought I would live to see a president attacking a private citizen in a commercial...disgraceful

GetRidOfThem

(869 posts)
30. Agreed.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:00 AM
Jun 2017

What he will talk about is Trump's desire to silence him, and him feeling uncomfortable about being alone with Trump. He will not mention any hard evidence on Russia, which is now in Mueller's realm.

This is all my speculation. Nobody can predict the future.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
3. I am worried also
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 06:23 AM
Jun 2017

When dump said he wouldn't prevent Comey from testifying little bells started dinging in my head.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
8. Trump said that to save face. He CAN'T invoke privilege
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 06:59 AM
Jun 2017

because he already spoke about what, I assume will be the crux of Comey's testimony, the memo's on Twitter and with Lester Holt. Trump's need to Tweet and spin has screwed him out of invoking privilege--he shot himself in the foot on that.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
25. IMO, it's TODAY'S testimony that will be equally or more damning than Comey's.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:54 AM
Jun 2017

Coates, Rogers, and Rosenstein will fire the most damaging salvos from the air. Trump's mobility will be disabled. He'll be a sitting duck. Comey will fire the fatal torpedo. Trumpy will sink.

Blueplanet

(253 posts)
51. Ha! This means war!
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:23 AM
Jun 2017

Eyeball_Kid, "Coates, Rogers, and Rosenstein will fire the most damaging salvos from the air. Trump's mobility will be disabled. He'll be a sitting duck. Comey will fire the fatal torpedo. Trumpy will sink.'

mnmoderatedem

(3,728 posts)
5. for me yes and no
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 06:26 AM
Jun 2017

Comey can only reveal so much. For me it's a matter of how forcefully he refutes trump's claim that Comey told him "three times" that he was not under investigation. And trump makes it sound like it was cut and dried back and white point blank questioning. It depends on how forcefully Comey refutes that and whether he leaves open the possibility that trump could have misinterpreted something.

Of course Comey could have stated "my dog has fleas" and trump would have interpreted that as "Oh so I'm not under investigation". And the deplorables would accept that.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
50. CaN someone please tell me why its important whether or not Comey told
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:22 AM
Jun 2017

the Dumpster he was not under investigation. What difference does that make?

underpants

(182,818 posts)
6. This is going to be a slow burn but most of the damage to Trump is already done
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 06:27 AM
Jun 2017

No Comey will probably not directly say Trump obstructed but he probably will say Trump asked him about investigations. He may say that he was asked about his loyalty. The actual charge of obstruction is up to Mueller anyway.

Trump-Russia is already so established even non-political people I know make reference to it. A lot of people have come to consider him at least a beneficiary of Russian help. Oh and everyone thinks he's a joke.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
31. At minimal definitely a joke. The entire world, practically, thinks of him as a
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:02 AM
Jun 2017

stumbling buffoon. And a stooge to do their bidding.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
9. Drip***Drip***Drip***
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 07:01 AM
Jun 2017

Everyday things for drumpf are going from really bad to much worse. Even when all of the facts are laid upon the table, what will the horribly corrupt redumbliCON controlled Congress do with it? redumbliCONs only care about saving their own asses.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
35. The GOP won't do sh** with it unless they feel threatened. They're all cut out of the same cloth.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:04 AM
Jun 2017

The GOP does not give a damn about the country, its future or the people. The see it as an investment for power and greed and fame.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
11. I don't trust ANY of them. Every day we read the headlines...
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 07:19 AM
Jun 2017

That get more treasonous and hideous and blatantly hateful. Nothing has made a country saving difference so far. The thirst for damned drama is too demanding.
The media and the country that drinks it all in is too damned obsessed with Reality TV mentality and scripting.
Showboat blowhard bull shit is always the more pervasive message of the day.
So while I cling to hope, I don't expect this to be the proverbial straw to break this camel's back.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
39. As M$M rakes in tremendous profits raking one end against the other, perpetuating every little
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:07 AM
Jun 2017

hip cup for profit.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
12. I'm more interested in what he says to a grand jury than what he says in a public hearing
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 07:23 AM
Jun 2017

He can say whatever he wants tomorrow as long as Trump is taken away in handcuffs after the investigation is over.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
13. Comey's testimony is for Comey's benefit. He will testify about his own behaviors and
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 07:34 AM
Jun 2017

words, why he did or said certain things ALREADY KNOWN by now to us.

If he happens to contradict anything said by Trump, so be it.

Comey will absolutely refuse to characterize ANY behavior by Trump, even though the erstwhile #1 G-man knows a crime when he encounters one.

But he knows this isn't a trial.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
15. The reason I think you're wrong
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 07:43 AM
Jun 2017

is that all the reporting shows that degenerate donnie and his minions are going to go to the mattresses against Comey - they are obviously scared witless about what he's going to say. Another thing is that Comey, from all the reporting, seems to be very protective of his reputation. Even as many Dems wanted his head on a platter, it was because of what was perceived as horrible judgement, not as a result of his integrity. Now he's facing someone who only wants to trash his 40 year reputation and I don't think he's going to lay down and let that happen without a fight.

 

Persisted

(290 posts)
16. His mere presence is damning.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 07:52 AM
Jun 2017

I would caution you to step back and look at the big picture. The presence of a fired FBI head testifying regarding the conduct of the president who fired him is in and of itself damming.

Without a word Comey has Damned the president.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
21. Well said
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:41 AM
Jun 2017

The big picture gets lost in the blur of the constant news cycle. Trump's presidency is a mess and his ignorance and malfeasance are exposed more and more every day. Additionally, Director Comey's testimony will have two parts: one public and one private. The closed-door hearing will be more detailed and Senators will learn just how dirty is this presidency.

Keep posting, Persisted!

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
17. It should not be interpreted as a "bad feeling" when adults are trying to do the right thing.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 07:55 AM
Jun 2017

We all want them to "do the right thing". We don't want any prosecutions derailed by Congressional testimony.

The desire for *** BREAKING NEWS *** should never overwhelm us.

Distrust excessively gleeful expectations as much as excessively gloomy expectations at all times. Maintain an even keel and "steady as she goes".

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
18. Relax... this is another brick in the wall...
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:04 AM
Jun 2017

Last edited Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:14 AM - Edit history (1)

Comey will not come out with his hair on fire. That hearing is not the place for it. He will remain calm. All he really has to do is confirm the contents of the memo.

Relax....

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
19. In the back of my mind I have a lingering fear
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:17 AM
Jun 2017

That all these anonymous leaks about his memos and Trump pressuring him and other damming leaks could be in part intentional disinformation fed to the press.

They know Comeny doesn't talk to the media.

They among the legitimate insert more damming details that are false.

President keeps harping his "fake news" accusations.

Comey testifies, they know he will be honest.

President now can claim victory over "fake news" and discredits his critics and the media.

I doubt they are smart enough to pull it off, but it's still a lingering fear in my mind.

Sugar Smack

(18,748 posts)
20. When the time comes, when Comey's under a different sort of pressure,
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:20 AM
Jun 2017

when he's being asked the tough questions, when the questions come hard and fast, we will see.

Let's hope for the best. <-coffee

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
22. In this case, the prelude may be worse for Trumpy than the main event.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:43 AM
Jun 2017

Today's testimony by Rogers and Coates may place Comey's testimony tomorrow in a whole different light. Trumpy is in a world of hurt, and it starts today.

catbyte

(34,393 posts)
27. I see Republicans focusing on the leaks. Morning Joe thinks that'll damage GOP, I'm
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 08:56 AM
Jun 2017

not that optimistic. I don't think anything will damage Republicans. Maybe I'm just too traumatized after 11/8. I have no faith in anybody.

Nitram

(22,803 posts)
33. What reason would Comey have to spare Trump?
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:03 AM
Jun 2017

Comey is no longer involved in the investigation of Trump. Trump abused and insulted him on the national stage. Trump is shaking in his boots.

 

Doug the Dem

(1,297 posts)
34. To be Honest,
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:04 AM
Jun 2017

I think a lot of liberals have really gotten overly excited about the prospects for tomorrow. Personally, I hope Comey does some damage, but I doubt that a fatal blow will be dealt. That being said, I'd be DELIGHTED to be proven wrong!

 

Doug the Dem

(1,297 posts)
53. Thanks, Sugar
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:27 AM
Jun 2017

LEGAL DISCLAIMER: In this instance, "Sugar" is in no way, shape or form a sexist remark!

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
36. I'll be very surprised if we don't hear all about Carlos Danger.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:05 AM
Jun 2017

And Hillary. And Huma. And his magic memos. And how he always caught his terrist.

PubliusEnigma

(1,583 posts)
37. Of course not, the damning things will be saved for prosecution.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:05 AM
Jun 2017

But you can be assured, that whatever he says, Trump won't like it.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
47. Oh, I am SURE they will try to distract...
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:15 AM
Jun 2017

Comey should be careful to demure on that... it's no longer his case.

Zoonart

(11,868 posts)
45. This kills me...
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:13 AM
Jun 2017

We Dems are talking about this Russian act of war on our democracy and the orange stain on our national honor sitting in the white house like it is fantasy football. While we sit in front of the TV munching our popcorn and pinning our hopes on revelation from a career games player, the senate is flushing our children's and grandchildren's futures down the toilet.

The only way to stop this madness if for the people to act. Where are the masses in the streets, where the civil disobedience, where the national strikes?
Wake up America... YOU ARE THE CAVALRY.

bdamomma

(63,852 posts)
48. exactly power in numbers as they say
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:17 AM
Jun 2017

remember at all those town halls for repigs how they didn't show up for their constituents. We need to do that again

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
54. Just the facts
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:36 AM
Jun 2017

I certainly don't anticipate theatrics, save whatever insane tweets Trump proceeds to throw into his carnival barking sideshow. Comey won't sensationalize, or offer judgment, or opine on obstruction of justice, but he also won't be aiding and abetting a cover up. He's not one likely to be put under oath and proceed to fabricate or omit events in order to save Trump's ass. But he will likely take a stylistically understated approach to the proceedings. If there is anything revealing or heretofore unknown in Comey's testimony, Mueller will be the one taking it to the next level.

Fla Dem

(23,676 posts)
55. I'm beyond anticipating anything good coming from anything. Disappointed too many times.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 10:04 AM
Jun 2017

First all the positivity about HRC's election. Big time disappointment.
Then every new revelation about trump and his family was supposed to be the nail in his coffin, he wouldn't last 100 days etc, still nope.
Then former acting AG Sally Yates' testimony was going to be the smoking gun.....nope.

So I don't get my expectation level up very high. It will be what it will be.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
56. There is a mountain of extremely dirty money arrayed against his upsetting any apple carts.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 10:22 AM
Jun 2017

We know, or suspect, that he was compromised last year when he undercut Clinton. We know he's a Republican.

It will be hard, though, to avoid either confirming or denying the stories of Trump's attempts to influence his investigation.

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