Oh My - Rogers seems rather antsy to Warner

[malaise]

on whether the Con asked him about the investigation.

[BumRushDaShow]

1. It was like he was ready to explode

He is pissed about something.

[Ilsa]

5. He sounds like someone who was

Shoved between a rock and a hard place. His personality is such that frustration might look like anger. I bet he has some frustration in not being able to control the pushing and shoving.

[global1]

2. Weasel Words....

Coats too. What are they hiding?

[berksdem]

3. he certainly

did look pissed off... although, it is clear they did not feel "pressured" at any point.

#ComeyBust

[bigtree]

4. legalistic answers

...what we want to know is 'what was said' in those encounters.

They want the verdict to rest on whether they felt pressured, and that may well carry some legal weight in a court. But for the American people, the question is less about how Trump can explain away intent, but what he actually said.

Tell us what was said and let us judge for ourselves, and remember, any verdict on Trump (if that happens) will, initially, be a political one.

[jberryhill]

16. "that may well carry some legal weight in a court"

Not really.

Whether they subjectively "felt pressured" is not the issue. The issue is whether, objectively, Trump was attempting to pressure them.

For example, a guy once attempted to mug me, armed with a safety razor blade. He was about 2/3 my height, and probably less than half my weight. I was not intimidated in the least, and he backed down. The fact that I did not "feel threatened" by that jackass has nothing to do with the fact that he was attempting to threaten me.

[bigtree]

17. it would go to intent

...which would carry some weight in court.

[jberryhill]

19. "intent" is on the sending end, not the receiving end

Whether a person would objectively consider whatever Trump said to be "pressure" is not determined by whether the person to whom it was said "felt pressured".

[bigtree]

20. it could have weight in considering intent

...didn't say it would be determinate.

[Greybnk48]

6. They both covered for Trump.

I am so disgusted over the "I have never felt threatened to do anything for Trump" bullshit parsing.

[octoberlib]

8. Yeah, me too.

[Grammy23]

10. Sigh.....

I was looking forward to this hearing (and tomorrow's hearing with Comey). I feel like someone just punched me hard. This is without a doubt the most frustrating experience of my life. To hear all the stuff dripping out, surely based on some facts, and then see people weasel out is beyond exasperating. I got the distinct impression that someone "got to Rogers and Coats". Just another day in this sh*t show.

[octoberlib]

7. From my understanding this hearing is

supposed to be about FISA warrants. Maybe they thought Warner was trying to make it about Trump. I'm not defending them and am glad Warner asked but maybe they didn't want things to get sidetracked.

[FM123]

9. Now he is beyond antsy

I think he might starting making circles with his pointing finger any second now.....

[malaise]

11. Wyden is schooling Coats

and good

[FlightRN]

12. Rogers

After following a story about him here on DU two or so weeks ago, I found more articles about his past. His behavior has caused many problems with his co-workers. He's an odd one, he doesn't appear to be well liked, and his behavior during Trumps campaign wasn't understood by his colleagues.

For instance he left his post without telling colleagues or superiors to travel to see Trump during the campaign. Colleagues throughout his various positions had enough negative things to say about him, that I personally find him untrustworthy at best.

[malaise]

13. He's an arrogant bully

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

[FlightRN]

15. Definitely appears

That he does not play well at all with others. I have even less confidence in his trustworthiness watching this hearing.

[WinkyDink]

14. What must it "feel" like to know one is aiding and abetting treason?

[OnDoutside]

18. Comey's testimony WILL be better than today's, but how much is the question....