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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 01:59 PM Jun 2017

Trump Can Commit All the High Crimes He Wants. Republicans Arent Going to Impeach Him.

Trump Can Commit All the High Crimes He Wants. Republicans Aren’t Going to Impeach Him.
By Jonathan Chait June 7, 2017 8:02 am

Since the beginning of Donald Trump’s presidency, or even before, Democrats have been waiting for the moment when the Republican Party’s indulgence would snap. In every incremental advance of the Russia story, many hear the ticking hands of an “impeachment clock.” But there is no clock, and there will probably be no impeachment, at least not based on the field of Trumpian misdeeds currently at play.

To imagine Republicans might turn on Trump over the Russia scandal to the point of deposing him from office is to misunderstand how they have been thinking about Trump and the presidency all along.

Trump repeatedly demanded loyalty from the FBI director, asked that he halt his investigation into the Russia scandal, instructed other intelligence officials to pressure him to end the investigation — the precise action that forced Richard Nixon to resign — and then fired Comey for refusing to do so.

Many of his associates have been caught lying about their meetings and financial ties with Russia and what they said at those meetings. His son-in-law and close adviser tried to establish a secret line of communication to Russia. All of this took place after Trump appeared on camera during the campaign asking Russia to hack his opponent’s emails. (This is not even to mention the ongoing profiteering from his office that, in a normal presidency, would be an all-consuming mega-scandal in its own right.)


Many conservatives opposed Trump during the primaries because they suspected, with good reason, that his conservatism was shallow or insincere. They worried that, once elected, Trump would abandon their priorities and pursue the most expedient course.

But Trump has not done that at all. The policies or talking points Trump has abandoned are the centrist ones: He would protect Medicaid from cuts, give everybody terrific coverage, hammer the big banks, spend a trillion dollars on infrastructure, and cut deals with both parties. This week, Trump formally abandoned the last possible area of ideological compromise in infrastructure, “clarifying” that his plan relies on private industry, states, or cities ponying up the money. Trump’s budget actually cuts federal investments in infrastructure. He has positioned himself to the right of even House Republicans on domestic spending, and continues to push for their grossly unpopular plan to cut a trillion dollars from Obamacare.

Trump is faithfully supporting the conservative agenda, so most conservatives faithfully support him.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/06/republicans-wont-impeach-trump-no-matter-what-his-crimes.html

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Trump Can Commit All the High Crimes He Wants. Republicans Arent Going to Impeach Him. (Original Post) workinclasszero Jun 2017 OP
when trump's approval and support falls below 30%, the GOP will have little choice beachbum bob Jun 2017 #1
Even Then It Won't Matter. TheMastersNemesis Jun 2017 #2
I disagree, trump is NOT LIKED within republican circles and they have a choice beachbum bob Jun 2017 #5
Yes, it will be grab a lifebelt and save yourself. They are cowardly scum at the end of the day. OnDoutside Jun 2017 #16
cowardly or not, they can read the tea leaves and providing support for a failed president beachbum bob Jun 2017 #17
Beachbum, you are exactly right. Doodley Jun 2017 #3
Yep. Well said. And, boy, am I tired of the damn defeatist attitudes. Doom and gloom. nocalflea Jun 2017 #6
What if they enlist the help of Putin again? workinclasszero Jun 2017 #7
fake news affected hillary's support and bolstered stein and johnson and bred beachbum bob Jun 2017 #8
The fake news originated from Russia workinclasszero Jun 2017 #10
I hope you're right. Initech Jun 2017 #12
"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters." lpbk2713 Jun 2017 #4
We've never allowed enough weight to that statement Awsi Dooger Jun 2017 #11
We can't impeach until 2018. Tatiana Jun 2017 #9
actually will be in 2019 after new democratic congress is sworn in..... beachbum bob Jun 2017 #14
True. n/t Tatiana Jun 2017 #18
All they care about is their precious fucking majority. Initech Jun 2017 #13
If Ossoff can win it might start to turn the tide. MGKrebs Jun 2017 #15
Ossoff's performance in first debate was stellar and put to rest the conservative notion he aint a beachbum bob Jun 2017 #19
No, but if he is under constant pressure day in and day out he could have a smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #20
Good. I hope the stink of Trump gives us a landslide in 2018. progressoid Jun 2017 #21
 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
1. when trump's approval and support falls below 30%, the GOP will have little choice
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 02:06 PM
Jun 2017

otherwise 2018 and 2020 will be massive democratic waves and conservatives will never see power again

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
5. I disagree, trump is NOT LIKED within republican circles and they have a choice
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 02:18 PM
Jun 2017

to go down with him or live to fight another day

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
17. cowardly or not, they can read the tea leaves and providing support for a failed president
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 04:36 PM
Jun 2017

heading into mid elections will surely lead to greater number of democratic victories

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
7. What if they enlist the help of Putin again?
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 02:33 PM
Jun 2017

It worked great against Hillary obviously.

What has been put in place to stop that from happening again?

Not to mention all the gerrymandered states and voter suppression of PoC by the republicans.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
8. fake news affected hillary's support and bolstered stein and johnson and bred
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 02:36 PM
Jun 2017

discontent among democratic voters

not seeing any such distraction working in 2018 or 2020. No more of "not supporting the less of 2 evils" bullshit from now on

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
10. The fake news originated from Russia
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 02:44 PM
Jun 2017

and it still does.

And it still will in the future.

I still see plenty of democratic/liberal/BoB/green conflict right here on DU also.

Lets see if the dem in Georgia can pull off a win. If so maybe people are waking up after all of Trump's BS.

In any event if there isn't a massive democratic win in 2018 that takes back the house and makes good gains in the senate this country is dead.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
4. "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters."
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 02:18 PM
Jun 2017



The Asshole-in-Chief is testing his hypothesis.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
11. We've never allowed enough weight to that statement
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 03:32 PM
Jun 2017

I didn't, not until the fall.

Truth isn't the slightest consideration when you've got a comment like that on your resume. You know darn well your flock will believe anything and take any extreme. Hence the Lock Her Up chants, attacks on media, and fake news reliance, with Russia as a late summon when things were rocky.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
9. We can't impeach until 2018.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 02:38 PM
Jun 2017

So we'll have to salvage what's left of this Republic at that time.

No, Republicans won't impeach him. They will fight tooth and nail to cover up their own collusion and enabling.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
13. All they care about is their precious fucking majority.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 03:39 PM
Jun 2017

And they're not going to do anything with it. They're just going to keep blaming liberals and minorities like they do in order to keep getting what they want. The republicans do not care about the people. They only care about power and greed.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
15. If Ossoff can win it might start to turn the tide.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 03:51 PM
Jun 2017

The main reason for them to stay on board the SS Trump is self-preservation. If the hole in that ship gets much bigger they will be jumping off to save themselves.

Go Jon!

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
19. Ossoff's performance in first debate was stellar and put to rest the conservative notion he aint a
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 05:07 PM
Jun 2017

primetime candidate. Matter of fact, his performance establishes beyond a doubt he is on top of issues and not afraid to go at Handel at every opportunity.

She will now play the woman's card soon...of being picked on because she is a woman. Luckily Ossoff went at her in the best of ways...

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
20. No, but if he is under constant pressure day in and day out he could have a
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 05:17 PM
Jun 2017

"health crisis" that would take him out. He is not a healthy man - physically or mentally. As long as we keep the pressure on, he's going to crack/collapse sooner or later.

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