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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat if the Russia thing does end up being just smoke?...
I'm playing devils advocate because given the amount of smoke it's hard to see how there couldn't be some level of collusion. But let's say that the investigation doesn't unearth any smoking gun that leads directly to impeachment. Then what? I say this because clearly trump needs to be impeached. But the republicans don't have the best interests of their country on mind of course and the only way they will impeach trump is when it looks like he will drag them down with him. So what is the next step IF the Russian investigation doesn't turn up enough?
Zoonart
(11,869 posts)as President. Follow the money to get rid of him and his criminal cabal.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)russian connections....and then there is all the lying about all the contacts with russians, russian operatives, russian bankers and trumps own admin going at eleiminating the sanctions that is cost putin 100's of billions in profits for him and his mob...as well as for trump, goldman sachc and exxon mobile
LOL Lib
(1,462 posts)We still have a moron leading us off the cliff. We are rightly fucked until he dies of heart disease or 2020 I fear.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)It is true. drumpf is quilty as hell.
Blue_Roses
(12,894 posts)This
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Trump and Kushy are corrupt. Remember when the emoluments clause was an issue? Marry that to his rich-guy-first policy shop and let voters know they've been conned.
bigtree
(85,998 posts)...for smoke.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)goes for broke and we see him arrested and sent to prison.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)I can only guess that the GOP must have something to worry about. There has to be a body if evidence that can "hang them" out there. I find it hard to believe that it would possible to assemble a collective bag of unpatriotic assholes that are so bent on harming the people of this country without some coercion.
I doubt that they will let whatever "it" is be exposed.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)evidence that can put him in prison for colluding with Russia, instead of just people around him, might not turn up.
He's broken so many other laws, though, such as using his office to make money, that provide cause. To me the best reason, though, is that he is unfit for office.
gordianot
(15,238 posts)Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)And he takes down the GOP with him.
YCHDT
(962 posts)... TOO loyal
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)Trump's real concern, as is the case with all true narcissists, is himself. He was willing to throw campaign people under the bus if HE could be exonerated (he wanted Comey to tell everyone that he wasn't personally under investigation -- that is what he really cares about)
Nwgirl503
(406 posts)And I'm a worst/best case scenario person IRL. In almost all things I'm constantly trying to figure out each side, identify issues and prepare myself as best as possible for any possible outcome. I am 100% positive he was directly involved. I also believe 100% there is proof. Whether it rises to the level of criminal charges, I cannot speak even semi-intelligently to. But there is fire. And not just with members of his staff or campaign. With Trump. This isn't going away. IDK how long it's going to take, but there is fire.
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,958 posts)...there are blazing fires. Republicans either see smoke or nothing... really, it's up to Republicans, now. The Special Prosecutor could come through. Even then, he could secretly give a report and Republicans decide it's just Trump being "an unconventional" President.
pansypoo53219
(20,978 posts)more there.