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BREAKING: Special counsel is investigating Trump for possible obstruction of justice, officials say (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 OP
The first installment of his beautiful cake dalton99a Jun 2017 #1
Beautiful chocolate cake BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #3
His Happy Birthday Cake FM123 Jun 2017 #4
Awe! That's so sad FakeNoose Jun 2017 #50
LOL BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #64
Are you with me... cilla4progress Jun 2017 #111
Is this 'His Party and He'lll Cry if He Wants To?' duhneece Jun 2017 #115
The cake was baked by Pres. Obama. We are seeing the products of the NCjack Jun 2017 #130
This could take years Freethinker65 Jun 2017 #2
That's why they are trying to create things in secret BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #6
And they STILL Scarsdale Jun 2017 #118
Problem is BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #119
Slappy Birthday Achilleaze Jun 2017 #5
OH...duh - is that why his twitter page has balloons floating on it ? thought it odd - a message Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #12
Twitter does that on your b-day. Seriously. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2017 #88
Is the big, fat, spoiled baby going to throw a birthday fit and reconsider firing him now? BigmanPigman Jun 2017 #7
That's the first thing that came to my mind BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #11
Boom! mcar Jun 2017 #8
This announcement gives Mueller "job security" too justiceischeap Jun 2017 #9
I don't know about job security BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #13
But I don't think the GOP could ignore that justiceischeap Jun 2017 #15
They would "pre-select" a replacement BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #19
I don't think Mueller is leaking this. He is much too professional - an moonscape Jun 2017 #99
I can see Mueller allowing this leak justiceischeap Jun 2017 #108
YEA!!! Repukes take "hope you" alone. It is not alone - add in firing Comey, Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #10
KICK! Cha Jun 2017 #14
Hey Cha! BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #16
Really.. Cha Jun 2017 #18
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DUMP!! SHRED Jun 2017 #17
I wonder if this has more to do with trump's lawyer bragging Kahuna7 Jun 2017 #20
There were also a number of stories BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #28
One more scoop malaise Jun 2017 #21
Beautiful chocolate LAVA cake BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #31
Supersize it! sheshe2 Jun 2017 #40
Bwah! BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #62
Now that is a supersized scooper for the poopie head and thief. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #76
"poopie head and thief" BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #77
Yeah - he'd better eat it pretty fast FakeNoose Jun 2017 #54
Is Mueller deliberately hoping to provoke Trump into firing him? procon Jun 2017 #22
Trump likely has been informed he's the target of an investigation, which probably geek tragedy Jun 2017 #24
That might suggest BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #32
it wasn't hard to guess what was going on at the FBI--the clues were all out in public nt geek tragedy Jun 2017 #36
In this case, maybe not the FBI but other national security agencies. BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #37
we knew Trump had a web of financial ties to shady Russians geek tragedy Jun 2017 #44
And he may have been caught via an intercept BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #46
There's no "ironclad impeachment"... regnaD kciN Jun 2017 #103
This Is Going To Piss The Orange One Off... WiffenPoof Jun 2017 #23
Chris realizes he jumped the gun MiddleClass Jun 2017 #52
Let's hold our breath. Obstruction zentrum Jun 2017 #25
"Obstruction" is MSNBC Hardball lead off story. Matthew's show slides oasis Jun 2017 #26
How about keeping us all safe malaise Jun 2017 #39
Wow! kentuck Jun 2017 #27
Bring it! So ready for this!! Keeping my fingers and toes crossed AgadorSparticus Jun 2017 #29
Now that's a two scoop C_U_L8R Jun 2017 #30
Happy Birthday, Dear Leader Dopers_Greed Jun 2017 #33
Trump: "Am I the subject of an investigation? Am I the subject of an investigation"? Mr. Ected Jun 2017 #34
!! BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #80
"Can you charge me now?" regnaD kciN Jun 2017 #104
Some goood news. Thanks! nt furtheradu Jun 2017 #35
Bwah-hah - happy birthday, indeed!1 UTUSN Jun 2017 #38
Nostradumbass.. Cha Jun 2017 #43
LOL! redwitch Jun 2017 #56
Was this directed to cilla4progress Jun 2017 #112
Yes... I looked where it was and the date.. Cha Jun 2017 #113
He thought the FBI and CIA cilla4progress Jun 2017 #131
Total vindication to screwed in three days MiddleClass Jun 2017 #41
It's awesome. Definitely shuts down this facile talking point and will drive him nuts. stuffmatters Jun 2017 #45
"Nostradumbass" Cha Jun 2017 #42
You know what? BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #47
Lol love it berni_mccoy Jun 2017 #66
Happy Birthday Donald TNLib Jun 2017 #48
Check out the comments in that article. Kingofalldems Jun 2017 #49
I am actually surprised that the comments aren't all RW BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #51
Oh, they are getting hammered for sure. Kingofalldems Jun 2017 #55
Putin's blowing his entire 'bot budget on that article flibbitygiblets Jun 2017 #87
!!! BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #98
Fine. As long as it doesn't relieve pressure to investigate collusion, Russian hacking, money wiggs Jun 2017 #53
It makes you wonder how many pretzel twists they are willing to keep doing BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #59
If they lose in GA-06 Motownman78 Jun 2017 #106
Odds that Trump will fire Mueller just went up Moral Compass Jun 2017 #57
Chris Hayes leads with this malaise Jun 2017 #58
And CNN is on the shooting BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #65
We are not rubbing this in with trumpkin friends and family liberal N proud Jun 2017 #60
Happy birthday you orange moron LOL Lib Jun 2017 #61
Happy birthday, you orange anus! Brother Buzz Jun 2017 #63
"Witnesses report large electronic objects flying out from Whitehouse windows and doors." lindysalsagal Jun 2017 #67
We know he talks like a five-year-old MiddleClass Jun 2017 #69
Pretty sure his head is spinning and the slobber is all over the walls lindysalsagal Jun 2017 #78
Happy Birthday Ccarmona Jun 2017 #68
Jr. is retweeting a reporter who said this should be shut down BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #70
Well I suppose if he is going to pull a Saturday night massacre it may happen jimlup Jun 2017 #71
Will have to see if goes on a tweet rampage tonight or early tomorrow morning BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #73
Check Mate.......Dump!!!!! bresue Jun 2017 #72
Go get him Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2017 #74
WHEE!! NastyRiffraff Jun 2017 #75
Crappy birthday you treasonous, dangerous, classless POS flibbitygiblets Jun 2017 #79
Wow. Warren DeMontague Jun 2017 #81
Chris Hayes has focussed much of his M$NBC show on it BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #82
You are wrong, this is tremendously huuuuuuugggggeeee MiddleClass Jun 2017 #84
Or better - YUUUUUUUGGGGGGEEEE BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #85
Boom goes the dynamite! Kaleva Jun 2017 #83
Rachel will be having Adam Entous on - one of the WaPo reporters for this story BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #86
some good analysis from Seth Abramson starting here on Twitter NewJeffCT Jun 2017 #89
Excellent twitter thread and this BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #90
Thanks for this! furtheradu Jun 2017 #110
White House officials (Kushner et al) will be interviewed about what Trump told them wishstar Jun 2017 #91
Heard that earlier BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #92
BEST NEWS EVER! writes3000 Jun 2017 #122
k. and r. Stuart G Jun 2017 #93
Rachel mentioned the NYT version of the story BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #94
KICK & thanks again. nt furtheradu Jun 2017 #95
idk....low hanging fruit TalenaGor Jun 2017 #96
They may be looking at the financial stuff BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #97
This makes me very happy! nt ThingsGottaChange Jun 2017 #100
Shitty birthday to you, drumpf! greatauntoftriplets Jun 2017 #101
This is a major story Gothmog Jun 2017 #102
Now, that is a Daisy! A Daisy if I ever saw one!! PubliusEnigma Jun 2017 #105
How Sweet It Is! blue-wave Jun 2017 #107
Don't forget the scandal lurking behind the drapes: money laundering. alfredo Jun 2017 #109
The NY AG must have 30 years worth of stuff on that BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #116
So we're getting closer to the point where Trump trys to take down the country with him. Kablooie Jun 2017 #114
Yes, I think this will all play out before 2018 elections bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #117
Donald fired Comey to stop the investigation into the Trump/Russia links. Botany Jun 2017 #120
And he said so to the Russian officials who visited him BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #121
Correction: Investigating Obstruction in this case is investigating Conspiracy to Obstruct Justice L. Coyote Jun 2017 #123
Thanks for that BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #124
There are those who think, and l am one, that the obstruction Enoki33 Jun 2017 #125
Yes BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #126
And there's one more nugget!!!! Grins Jun 2017 #127
The whole TFEE will be looked at BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #128
Financial crimes will do him in. Laundering $$$ LuckyLib Jun 2017 #132
Anyone in White House who helped @realDonaldTrump obstruct justice could also be guilty L. Coyote Jun 2017 #129
#TrumpObstructed - Scott Dworkin is on a roll - 26 potential counts of obstruction: L. Coyote Jun 2017 #133
Ted Lieu has a doozy BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #135
K&R red dog 1 Jun 2017 #134

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
111. Are you with me...
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 01:06 AM
Jun 2017

This was timed for his birthday .

Every year on his birthday for so long as he lives, he can relive this day.

Just the kind of thing I've been praying for. And I'm an atheist.

duhneece

(4,113 posts)
115. Is this 'His Party and He'lll Cry if He Wants To?'
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 05:52 AM
Jun 2017

Watergate began with hyper partisan-ship, but the R's did 'come on board' (of what's right) eventually.

I'll hold my breath until I know if the same happens here.
And soak in my NM's Senator Heinrich being such a bulldog.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
130. The cake was baked by Pres. Obama. We are seeing the products of the
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 10:58 AM
Jun 2017

sanctions placed on Russia. They are the root cause of the investigation.

Thank you, Pres. Obama.

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
6. That's why they are trying to create things in secret
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 06:54 PM
Jun 2017

without hearings and try to shove it through because they know their time is short.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
118. And they STILL
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 08:13 AM
Jun 2017

wonder what makes people so upset? Have they not even read about the white supremicists (?) who support them? When things get close to THEM, like this shooting, it should wake them up. Secret meetings to reconstruct healthcare, with other representatives shut out is NOT the way to unify this country. What are they hiding? Who are they REALLY "representing"? Certainly not citizens who work hard. Did it not register that in Ca. four working class people were shot and killed as they prepared for their jobs? I hope those folks had healthcare, and life insurance.

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
119. Problem is
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 08:25 AM
Jun 2017

The Kochs funded so many of the radical RW Congressional seats (63 were gained in 2010 in the House alone), that it was only a matter of time before the vitriol from those folks, would spill out into the national consciousness.

A lot of this "secret" stuff is happening not just because they are hiding it from the Democrats, but in some cases, they are hiding it from their own loons.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
12. OH...duh - is that why his twitter page has balloons floating on it ? thought it odd - a message
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:01 PM
Jun 2017

of condolence after shooting and there's balloons floating by. Trump still uses old twitter - guess cuz so many followers - or is it because it has his name in it. @pres probably more generic (dignified)

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
88. Twitter does that on your b-day. Seriously.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:33 PM
Jun 2017

Someone today noted that Qatar is one of the only 2 places in the world that makes helium, and the current dust up is affecting stocks of it, so b-day balloons may be a little flat soon.

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
11. That's the first thing that came to my mind
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 06:59 PM
Jun 2017

especially with the financial gurus getting involved. That would torpedo the whole TFEE and they can't have that.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
9. This announcement gives Mueller "job security" too
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 06:58 PM
Jun 2017

Letting this info out today assures that he can't be fired without another Obstruction investigation being launched.

Well played, Mueller, well played.

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
13. I don't know about job security
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:03 PM
Jun 2017

You have a kamikaze guy in office who has so far, done whatever he wanted whenever he wanted, without any repercussions. If they get too close, he may ignore all of his lawyers, advisors, and family, and fire him - Nixon be damned. His base would love it.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
99. I don't think Mueller is leaking this. He is much too professional - an
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:30 PM
Jun 2017

ethical by-the-book person.

The problem is that once people start being interviewed, there are more and more people who can figure out where the investigation is going, what the line of questioning is and of whom. I suspect Mueller would much rather nothing leak. It hurts rather than helps his investigation.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
108. I can see Mueller allowing this leak
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 12:17 AM
Jun 2017

It sends a very clear message not to mess with his investigation. Note that this didn't come out until all the rumors of Mueller's firing were going around.

The release of this info seems very strategic to me.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
10. YEA!!! Repukes take "hope you" alone. It is not alone - add in firing Comey,
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 06:59 PM
Jun 2017

the guy who is investigating you, add in Comey not giving loyalty oath, add in Comey asking for more funds, add in probably others who were asked to get Comey to stop...

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
20. I wonder if this has more to do with trump's lawyer bragging
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:10 PM
Jun 2017

that he got Preet Bharara fired

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/mark-kasowitz-preet-bharara-firing

snip

Marc Kasowitz, President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer in the Russia investigation, has boasted to friends and colleagues that he played a central role in the firing of Preet Bharara, the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, according to four people familiar with the conversations.

Kasowitz told Trump, “This guy is going to get you,” according to a person familiar with Kasowitz’s account.

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
28. There were also a number of stories
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:20 PM
Jun 2017

where some advisors were encouraging him to do it while others were telling him no - along with Lyin' Ryan suggesting that he not do it. Seems they are all playing high-stakes chicken.

procon

(15,805 posts)
22. Is Mueller deliberately hoping to provoke Trump into firing him?
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:16 PM
Jun 2017

It would provoke a constitutional crisis, and make a special prosecutor all the more likely, and probably seal the obstruction of justice case against Trump, paving the road to an ironclad impeachment.

In any event, Trump will see this as a direct attack, and if he remains true to form, he'll lash out and do something incredibly stupid to exact his revenge, regardless of the blowback.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
24. Trump likely has been informed he's the target of an investigation, which probably
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:17 PM
Jun 2017

prompted the "Fire Mueller" talk in the first place.

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
32. That might suggest
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:29 PM
Jun 2017

the Louise Mensch story could have a grain of truth... (not that I want to get into that argument about her and Claude Taylor )

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
44. we knew Trump had a web of financial ties to shady Russians
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:38 PM
Jun 2017

We knew he is corrupt AF

We knew that firing Comey was about obstructing the Russia investigation.

We knew that he had pressed at least 4 senior NatSec people to help quash the Flynn investigation.

Etc etc

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
46. And he may have been caught via an intercept
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:43 PM
Jun 2017

dealing in some financial shenanigans with Russian bankers for laundering purposes (although not necessarily directly associated with the collusion angle). It wouldn't surprise me that the collusion actually came from the GOP leadership.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
103. There's no "ironclad impeachment"...
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:54 PM
Jun 2017

...unless and until the Republican congressional leadership decides there is. And, so far, we've seen no sign they're willing to go beyond the "deeply troubled" stage.

WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
23. This Is Going To Piss The Orange One Off...
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:17 PM
Jun 2017

He was so obsessed with asking Comey if he was the target of an investigation. Completely Obsessed! Now he has something to really worry about.

On Edit: Did anyone note that Hardball started with this story even before the shooting. Interesting

MiddleClass

(888 posts)
52. Chris realizes he jumped the gun
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:55 PM
Jun 2017

Technically, it's not Russian involvement and Donnie two scoops.

As Watergate: it's not the crime, it's the cover-up

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
25. Let's hold our breath. Obstruction
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:19 PM
Jun 2017

...of Justice is very hard to prove. It's already obvious there was OOJ but Special Council really needs proof to charge a sitting (ugh) President.

oasis

(49,389 posts)
26. "Obstruction" is MSNBC Hardball lead off story. Matthew's show slides
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:19 PM
Jun 2017

today's congressional baseball shooting to the back burner.

This is yuuuuge!

malaise

(269,054 posts)
39. How about keeping us all safe
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:32 PM
Jun 2017

That's the best idea - Tweety in response to Ryan asking how do you keep Congressfolks safe!

Go Tweety! You're too experienced for this 'milk it' moment.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
34. Trump: "Am I the subject of an investigation? Am I the subject of an investigation"?
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:29 PM
Jun 2017

"How about now?" "How about now?" "How about now?" "How about now?" "How about now?" "How about now?" "How about now?" "How about now?" "How about now?" "How about now?" "How about now?" "How about now?" "How about now?"

"How about now?"
.
.
.
.
.
.
Yes. You are. Bigly.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
113. Yes... I looked where it was and the date..
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 02:46 AM
Jun 2017

in the tweet it says a October 9, 2016 in Missouri at their debate.

MiddleClass

(888 posts)
41. Total vindication to screwed in three days
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:34 PM
Jun 2017

I can see a sealed indictment + impeachment + resignation in our future.

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
51. I am actually surprised that the comments aren't all RW
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:52 PM
Jun 2017

but quite a few from the other side. Still... over 3200 and counting.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
87. Putin's blowing his entire 'bot budget on that article
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:32 PM
Jun 2017

Better save your rubles, Pooty, you're going to need a loan from the Chinese at this pace.

wiggs

(7,814 posts)
53. Fine. As long as it doesn't relieve pressure to investigate collusion, Russian hacking, money
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:55 PM
Jun 2017

laundering, emoluments, corruption, compromat, self-dealing, Trump Foundation misdeeds, etc. All larger and more dangerous than obstruction though maybe it will take more time and effort to get those in a technical/legal sense.

However, in impeachment, we're not really talking about technical issues...impeachment is a political effort more than anything, and the more that comes out on ALL fronts, even if obstruction is eventually put to rest, the more likely it is that congress will impeach....Especially if he keeps showing his skills at incompetence, insulting allies, bullying, losing his base, and malignant ignorance. If all the above stays in the news weekly, there will be a point.....

His supporters in congress may say he's on the right track and should be given a chance, but they have to be thinking the same thing we are...the guy is unstable, unwilling to learn, misguided, a-moral, incompetent, narcissistic, and a sociopath of some special kind. They know he should not be president and it's only a matter of time before they start saying it out loud. As long as we and the media put all our eggs in the one small basket...

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
59. It makes you wonder how many pretzel twists they are willing to keep doing
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:01 PM
Jun 2017

to protect him so they can try to get their agenda enacted? And even then, he willingly throws them under the bus at a whim by saying or doing the opposite of what he promised them.

 

Motownman78

(491 posts)
106. If they lose in GA-06
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:25 PM
Jun 2017

Then they will really start to panic. They have not lost a Republican seat yet. When their phoney-baloney jobs are in peril, they will act as Pence can act on their agenda just as well.

Moral Compass

(1,521 posts)
57. Odds that Trump will fire Mueller just went up
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:00 PM
Jun 2017

I don't think Trump will be able to stop himself.

I believe we will see a historic replay of the Saturday Night Massacre.

What exactly happens after that I can't predict.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
67. "Witnesses report large electronic objects flying out from Whitehouse windows and doors."
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:14 PM
Jun 2017

"Secret service was called to investigate. When questioned, one whitehouse staffer was quoted as saying, "I nevuh saw a TV fly so far so damn fast!"

MiddleClass

(888 posts)
69. We know he talks like a five-year-old
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:21 PM
Jun 2017

Wondering if he gets even younger mentally when he loses it.

Because right now, I'm sure he has lost it.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
78. Pretty sure his head is spinning and the slobber is all over the walls
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:47 PM
Jun 2017

and everyone's suddenly come down with the flu and ran home to hide.

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
70. Jr. is retweeting a reporter who said this should be shut down
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:25 PM
Jun 2017



TEXT
David Martosko‏Verified account @dmartosko

I'll say it: If the special counsel's office is leaking prejudicial information about an investigation, it should be shut down immediately.

6:45 PM - 14 Jun 2017
511 replies 2,254 retweets 4,652 likes

(heard it mentioned earlier on Chris Hayes)

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
71. Well I suppose if he is going to pull a Saturday night massacre it may happen
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:36 PM
Jun 2017

before this Saturday night...

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
73. Will have to see if goes on a tweet rampage tonight or early tomorrow morning
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:38 PM
Jun 2017

I expect he is whooping it up at a b-day party and his family/advisors may be trying to distract him from everything else (Don Jr. is aware of it since he retweeted someone talking about Special Counsel "leaks&quot .

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
79. Crappy birthday you treasonous, dangerous, classless POS
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:49 PM
Jun 2017

WOOOOOO-HOOOOOO!!! Criminal Investigation! Suck on that you orange mo-fo!

Best thing I've heard since November 6

And the most wonderful part is, it's his own bragging, bullying hubris that's going to bring him down.

C E L - E - B R A T E G O O D T I M E S, C O M E O N !!!!

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
82. Chris Hayes has focussed much of his M$NBC show on it
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:58 PM
Jun 2017

And I understand that Tweety featured it as well earlier.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
89. some good analysis from Seth Abramson starting here on Twitter
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:33 PM
Jun 2017

this is the first post. If you go to it and then start scrolling down, he numbers his posts with (1), (2), (3), etc so you can easily read them in order.



BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
90. Excellent twitter thread and this
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:40 PM
Jun 2017



TEXT
Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson 1h1 hour ago

(16) Not to put too fine a point on it—the White House is now a crime scene. Mueller is focusing on crimes that occurred in the White House.
12 replies 333 retweets 867 likes

Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson

(17) But HERE is the KEY: to investigate Obstruction of Justice is—under these circumstances—to investigate CONSPIRACY to Obstruct Justice.

8:21 PM - 14 Jun 2017

is particularly juicy!

Thanks for the heads up on that!

wishstar

(5,270 posts)
91. White House officials (Kushner et al) will be interviewed about what Trump told them
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:48 PM
Jun 2017

A former Justice Dept official speaking on MSNBC said that Trump staffers will not be able to keep their govt positions if they plead the 5th.

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
92. Heard that earlier
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:52 PM
Jun 2017

and had noted in another thread earlier today that "pleading the 5th" was a "bucket" that Heinrich missed as an option regarding Sessions and his refusal to answer questions.

writes3000

(4,734 posts)
122. BEST NEWS EVER!
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 09:53 AM
Jun 2017

That means Trump will have to invoke executive privilege for every conversation which will make him look horrendously guilty.

Or maybe they all get fired!

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
94. Rachel mentioned the NYT version of the story
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:01 PM
Jun 2017

Mueller Seeks to Talk to Intelligence Officials, Hinting at Inquiry of Trump

WASHINGTON — The special counsel examining Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election has requested interviews with three high-ranking current or former intelligence officials in the latest indication that he will investigate whether President Trump obstructed justice, a person briefed on the investigation said on Wednesday.

The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, wants to question Dan Coats, the director of national intelligence; Adm. Michael S. Rogers, the head of the National Security Agency; and Richard Ledgett, the former N.S.A. deputy director.

None of the men were involved with Mr. Trump’s campaign. But recent news media reports have raised questions about whether Mr. Trump requested their help in trying to get James B. Comey, then the F.B.I. director, to end an investigation into Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser. Last week, Mr. Coats and Admiral Rogers declined to answer questions before Congress about the matter. Mr. Mueller’s office has also asked the N.S.A. for any documents or notes related to the agency’s interactions with the White House as part of the Russia investigation, according to an intelligence official.
Continue reading the main story

The Washington Post first reported on Wednesday that Mr. Mueller had requested the interviews with the intelligence officials.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/us/politics/mueller-trump-special-counsel-investigation.html

TalenaGor

(1,104 posts)
96. idk....low hanging fruit
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:23 PM
Jun 2017

I kinda think he's doing it to go out for that and not face the death penalty for treason....besides, at this point, there's probably some reason to investigate him for a few dozen impeachable and/or criminal offenses lol

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
97. They may be looking at the financial stuff
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:26 PM
Jun 2017

like money laundering, etc., which may ensnare his children.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
114. So we're getting closer to the point where Trump trys to take down the country with him.
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 02:58 AM
Jun 2017

I hope they take away his steering wheel before he deliberately drives us off a cliff.

bucolic_frolic

(43,183 posts)
117. Yes, I think this will all play out before 2018 elections
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 07:59 AM
Jun 2017

because they know if they lose those it's over

so they will try to clamp down on everything - fire Mueller, suppress free speech and rights to
assemble, and voting rights - and call it phony fake news to discredit the truth

I'm thinking this because I doubt they would go aggressive on foreign policy because most of the
world is not with them, and they have no credibility or legitimacy, and don't know what they are
doing. There are no good options there, so they go the domestic route.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
120. Donald fired Comey to stop the investigation into the Trump/Russia links.
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 08:59 AM
Jun 2017

"It's my judgment that I was fired because of the Russia investigation," Comey told the Senate intelligence committee in explosive testimony that threatened to undermine Trump's presidency.

http://6abc.com/politics/comey-says-he-was-fired-because-of-russia-investigation/2070552/

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
121. And he said so to the Russian officials who visited him
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 09:04 AM
Jun 2017

without any American media present (although the remarks were codified and distributed afterwards)!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
123. Correction: Investigating Obstruction in this case is investigating Conspiracy to Obstruct Justice
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 09:56 AM
Jun 2017

All the deception, the Trump campaign's collective amnesia about meetings with the Russians, from Trump, Kushner, Flynn, Session, Rosenstein, et.al., is a conspiracy to obstruct justice and also part of a larger conspiracy to subvert the U.S. presidential election and cover up.

What a wild and crazy month it has been since Trump fired Comey? This thread attempts to cover the entire story:

Trump's New Impeachable Offenses: Obstruction of Justice, Conspiracy, Abuse of Power

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
124. Thanks for that
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 10:00 AM
Jun 2017

Seth Abramson said as much in his mega-thread, a couple of tweets from it that I have posted a couple places including here - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029205180#post90




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Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson 1h1 hour ago

(16) Not to put too fine a point on it—the White House is now a crime scene. Mueller is focusing on crimes that occurred in the White House.
12 replies 333 retweets 867 likes

Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson

(17) But HERE is the KEY: to investigate Obstruction of Justice is—under these circumstances—to investigate CONSPIRACY to Obstruct Justice.

8:21 PM - 14 Jun 2017

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
125. There are those who think, and l am one, that the obstruction
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 10:10 AM
Jun 2017

of justice, though of great importance in itself, will be small potatoes to what has yet to be uncovered. Namely money laundering, espionage and links to a trail of dead Russian bodies orchestrated by Putin's FSB. It will prove to be a vast and complicated plot of possible mind boggling repercussions to our national security.

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
126. Yes
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 10:18 AM
Jun 2017

The TFEE has been undulating for decades under the eyes of several NY AGs and a guy that Drumpf first asked to stay on only to later fire (former U.S. Attorney for SDNY Preet Bharara) is now working for NY AG Eric Schneiderman, who has a motherlode of stuff on mob dealings and money laundering etc (most likely littered with the TFEE, the Russian mob, and their associates).

Grins

(7,218 posts)
127. And there's one more nugget!!!!
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 10:30 AM
Jun 2017

From the WaPo story:

"Investigators have also been looking for any evidence of possible FINANCIAL CRIMES among Trump associates, officials said."


Look out Jared! Look out Mr. Manafort. Look out Trump brothers. Look out Mr. Cohen. Look out Trump Organization. Look out Deutsche Bank. Look out Erick Prince. Look out Roger Stone. Look out the entire Republican National Committee, Senator Ted Cruz, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, Senator John McCain, Senator Mitch McConnell - all of whom received Russian money. Look out Dana Rohrabacher.

And Mr. Drumpf; don't bother giving us your tax returns for the past 25-years, we have asked the IRS to do that for you.

Regards,
Bobby

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
128. The whole TFEE will be looked at
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 10:42 AM
Jun 2017

and he pissed off a guy (former U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara) who he asked to stay on and then fired, and is now working for the NY AG (Eric Schneiderman).




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Preet Bharara

@PreetBharara

Sheesh, I haven't even had my covfefe yet. https: //twitter.com/justinelliott/status/874606447891554304 …
8:53 AM - 13 Jun 2017

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TEXT OF EMBEDDED TWEET
Justin Elliott @JustinElliott

NEW: Trump personal atty. Marc Kasowitz boasted that he got Preet Bharara fired https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-personal-lawyer-boasted-that-he-got-preet-bharara-fired … from @eisingerj and me
8:36 AM - 13 Jun 2017

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And the current and past NY AGs know all the sordid details.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
133. #TrumpObstructed - Scott Dworkin is on a roll - 26 potential counts of obstruction:
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 12:41 PM
Jun 2017


(String) Did Trump obstruct justice? YES! Many times w/many people-At least 26 potential counts of obstruction #TrumpObstructed #TrumpRussia
The whole "they're lookin at obstruction cuz they can't prove collusion" is bogus-Countless ongoing #TrumpRussia probes
Did Trump attempt to stop the investigation of a crime? Yes-With Michael Flynn-Case closed.
Book'em Mueller!
This doesn't have to be a complex story. Trump broke the law. He should be charged & legally removed from office. Period. #TrumpObstructed
And yes I believe that there is clear cut evidence to charge him with at least one count. And that's all we would need. #TrumpRussia #Resist
Anyways—there are at least 26 separate potential counts of obstruction of justice-for 26 diff things Trump did to stop #TrumpRussia probe.
Why would Trump-of all people-go thru all this trouble to appease Russia? Probably for money.🤑 How much for Oval visit? #TrumpRussia #Resist
Why'd Trump & Co lie about the hundreds of millions of sales to Russians & hide all of their business ties & trips to there? #TrumpRussia
Why did everyone hide these meetings-from even the US Gov't? If it wasn't sinister-why hide it? There's no sane explanation. #TrumpRussia
There is no plausible, non sinister-like reason for them to be meeting with that many Putin representatives DURING the campaign #TrumpRussia
So let's simplify it. Did the campaign meet with Russians? Yes. What the f*ck for? Remember—they knew they were hacking the dnc #TrumpRussia
Collusion: secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy-especially in order to cheat or deceive others-SOUNDS like what they did #TrumpRussia
The Russian Gov't was hacking-Trump & Co knew that-& at least 13 people including Trump met with folks that work for Putin & no one winked?😉
All met w/Russian Gov't: Sessions-Page-Kushner-Cohen-Flynn-Manafort-Don Jr-Prince-Gordon-Tillerson-Eric-Ivanka-Trump himself-W/RUSSIAN GOV'T
The whole "they're lookin at obstruction cuz they can't prove collusion" is bogus-Countless ongoing #TrumpRussia probes #TrumpObstructed

BumRushDaShow

(129,103 posts)
135. Ted Lieu has a doozy
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 05:06 PM
Jun 2017



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Ted Lieu‏Verified account @tedlieu

Ted Lieu Retweeted Donald J. Trump

Thank you @realDonaldTrump for confirming the stories from mainstream media are true: You are under investigation for Obstruction of Justice

Ted Lieu added,
Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump
They made up a phony collusion with the Russians story, found zero proof, so now they go for obstruction of justice on the phony story. Nice

9:48 AM - 15 Jun 2017
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