George Wills statement is why Trumpcare passage could destroy GOP & help Single-Payer (VIDEO)

[egbertowillies]

Conservative commentator George Will sometimes surprises when he makes statements unclouded by his very Conservative ideology and steeped in reality. His statement is the reasons why the GOP would be in trouble if they pass Trumpcare and Democrats run an unabashedly Progressive campaign on healthcare and middle-class values. In fact, he seemed resolved to single-payer Medicare for all.

https://egbertowillies.com/2017/06/25/george-will-trumpcare-destroy-gop/

[Chickensoup]

1. I tip my hat to

The one who sees the truth
And says like it is.

[Demsrule86]

13. I tip my hat to those who see the truth...single payer is not happening...and Wills wants

the ACA gone...he is lying...and anyone who says that single payer will come if the ACA is passed is wrong or has an agenda.

[Demsrule86]

2. No it won't...don't start that again...we lose ACA ...there will be no single payer and millions

will die. This is their way of tricking us into not fighting it.

[Blaukraut]

4. this!

Passing the ACA was close to impossible. Getting single payer in this country is a pipe dream. Sure, the odd state here and there will pass a version of single payer, but good luck waiting for anything nationwide.

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3. Excellent thought...I believe we have been advocating this for a long time!

[Demsrule86]

5. The GOP is trying to trick you into giving up ACA without a fuss..we will never have the votes to

pass single payer...better fight for what we have...we can use the ACA to introduce a public option...if we lose it, we get nothing...don't be duped by Wills who hate Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid...those programs will never come again if we can't save them.

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7. I disagree...single payer is picking up traction

And when the people decide in 2018...it will be a landslide.

[Demsrule86]

12. It doesn't matter...and there is not enough support to make the GOP go along with it...they would

rather stick pin in their eye...they want all such programs gone and sure as hell won't enact a new one...and don't have a super majority...and may not have one for years.

[Demsrule86]

6. Doubtful...and I have seen many advocating that...but not experienced DU'ers .

Welcome to DU.

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8. Have you had a chance to read Elisabeth Rosenthal's "An American Sickness"?

Or seen her interview on NPR?

https://twitter.com/RosenthalHealth

[Demsrule86]

10. No I haven't but I will look into it...but the GOP want us to allow them to

get rid of ACA for a reason...when will we ever have a super majority? That is what we need to enact any health care bill...and the house is still gerrymandered...we may get it back or we may not get it back. The chances of meaningful reform if the ACA goes down is minuscule. She does not advocate a single payer system or any system...she says Switzerland has a market based system which works well...there must be price controls...we could turn the ACA into such a system way easier than if we begin with nothing. If the ACA goes down,we get nothing for years...probably not in our lifetime...and this repeal takes down Medicaid as well.

[standingtall]

9. We will not get single payer anytime soon

The legislative filibuster is still in effect we would need to get 60 votes in the Senate to get single payer not going to happen. Repukes will try to repel the ACA with 50 votes plus the Vice President,but make no mistake about it when it's our turn we will need 60.

[Demsrule86]

11. I agree...a single payer would not be neutral in terms of revenue which mean it can

not be done via reconciliation...we need to save the ACA ...the only game in town...probably forever.

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14. ACA or any health care insurance program will not work if we don't get health care costs down....

Rubs state they want a free market for health insurance, however, health care in the US is not free market...but has the cards stacked in their favor.

Restrictions to health care on supply side....with increased demand equals an over valued health care system.

[Demsrule86]

17. Insurance based systems have worked in Switzerland for example, but you must have

strong price controls which could be added to the ACA much easier than starting from scratch...we have no change of getting single payer in for years...and not at all if the ACA goes down.

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15. An example that many do not consider

I had a RN nurse friend who had been born in the Netherlands, educated as a RN there, married a US GI and came to the US. However, because she was not educated in a US nursing school, she had to repeat the whole RN program. And she stated several times...the nursing program she went through there was better than the program in the US.

This same system is for all health care providers in the US. In addition, the medical associations have not increased enrollment numbers for the last 60 years...so we have a baby boomer generation, with less number of medical staff.

If the US does not do something on the supply side, no US program will be viable in the long term.

[Demsrule86]

16. We have been importing doctors rather than helping educate future doctors

or expanding medical schools.

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19. If you check the requirements, foreign doctors have to be educated in a US accredited medical school

And the school has to be accredited by American Medical Association.

[Johnny2X2X]

18. Vets

About 340,000 Vets get coverage through the ACA's Medicaid expansion. This fact needs to be brought up over and over. They are going to devastate the Vets.