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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsConversation with what turned out to be trumpers on FB
Got into a relatively civil discussion, not an argument, with several people I don't know on FB about a topic unrelated to politics with which I am well-versed, have personal experience with, have all of my facts down pat, and even provided every-day examples - examples they have witnessed/experienced - to prove my point.
Basically I said, "the sky is blue." The response? "Nope, it isn't."
Out of curiosity, I looked at the profiles... trumpers; every. last. one.
Refused to consider anything outside their narrow, authoritarian viewpoint even though the information presented was incontrovertible.
I pride myself on the fact that if you have a better argument, I'll change my mind. But what do you do if someone won't even consider the sky is blue?
Jesus, so depressing.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)"You people are hopeless; I'm going to leave you now to drown in your own ignorance" could be a comment to depart with, but it wouldn't really make any difference.
appleannie1943
(1,303 posts)radical noodle
(8,000 posts)Like banging your head against a wall.
leftstreet
(36,107 posts)'we need a wall to keep these foreigners out of our country!'
'I'm so with you on that. And I'd add all Japanese and Germans, and some Italians. They were part of the enemy Axis in WWII and we don't know if they still want revenge'
Hold up a mirror. They won't like it
oxbow
(2,034 posts)Turn the dial up on the nonsense until even they have to see it.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)neeksgeek
(1,214 posts)Last edited Sat Jul 1, 2017, 03:28 PM - Edit history (1)
Example: I've always been interested in space and astronomy. Way back in 1986, my sophomore year of high school, a classmate and I were discussing telescopes and Halley's Comet. Being a voracious and advanced reader, I was well-versed on optics. My friend had an inexpensive telescope with multiple eyepieces, including a very high-power one, which his small scope was completely incapable of actually using to make a sharp image, for reasons of the aperture and the physics of optics. I tried to explain the math behind optics and resolving power to him, but as far as he was concerned, the box said the scope could magnify 500 times (or whatever), so I could take my math and shove it.
This person is still one of my parents' neighbors. And yes, he is a Trump-bot.
Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)True story:
My hobby is walking fields/creeks looking for arrowheads, etc. Been doing it 40+ years.
I used to be in an archaeology club and would periodically go to schools and make a presentation about the artifacts I'd found.
At one of these events I held up a Dovetail point and informed the children it was at least 8 or 9 thousand years old.
The parents in the back of the class immediately raised a loud objection. "How do you know that?", they demanded. "When archaeologists unearth these points they perform Carbon-14 dating of associated organic material," I replied. They responded that C-14 dating was unproven and inaccurate. Basically they were complaining because, of course, the Bible say's the Earth is only 6,000 years old, and that archaeologists (those with degrees) were just over-educated liberals.
Jesus fucking Christ (pun intended.)