Why is #CNNBlackmail

[brettdale]

The top trend of twitter???

Surly not just because they called out the racist reddit user of the trump wrestling tweet?

[Lotusflower70]

1. That's it

They are saying they threatened him and forced the apology.

[nolabear]

2. He's not so tough then, is he?

I don't believe it for a minute but if it was true he caved pretty darn fast.

[Lotusflower70]

3. Hmmm

No just an internet tough guy. The speculation out on Twitter is that a lawyer advised the apology.

[nolabear]

5. I'd bet on it.

Nothing quite like getting caught.

[trof]

57. Yeah, the reddit crowd has just gone apeshit over this.

I dunno???

[highplainsdem]

4. CNN's Andrew Kaczynski is tweeting about this attack on CNN:

https://twitter.com/KFILE



Basically, Breitbart and other RW media trolls were unhappy about the source of Trump's meme being discovered, unhappier still when the Reddit user apologized for his behavior (thus making Trump look even worse), and are now trying to make CNN the villain.

[janx]

59. Thanks for the link.

Intriguing. I know the video was on Reddit, yet according to the White House (via Kaczynski), the video was not "pulled from Reddit."

Has anyone figured out who gave it to Trump?

[octoberlib]

6. Trump's Russian bots plus Bannon and Mercer's bots are pushing this crap.

[highplainsdem]

7. Yep.

[SweetieD]

10. Yep this is bot fueled.

[Initech]

33. Also Posobiec and Cernovich are fueling a lot of it.

Fuck these fucking assholes.

[NCTraveler]

8. Wouldn't that also be relevant to Trump blackmailing Joe and Mika.

What is the timeline of it trending? It's pretty recent.

[concreteblue]

9. My response on Twitter:

"Sounds like somebody needs a Fairness Doctrine."
#GOPSnowflakes

[SweetieD]

11. I don't understand why protrumpers and bots are pushing this story.

The dude apologized and CNN accepted apology in lieu of suing him.

This story would have been forgotten about tomorrow. Now they are tweeting the hell out of it to avenge their follow altright troll's honor. This now puts this hansassholesolo dude in a position where he may have to reveal himself just to put this story down. Seems counterintuitive.

[Grassy Knoll]

12. They Assume Blackmail Cause CNN "Seeked" Out The Guy Who Made The .Gif....

... A Private Citizen. And Apologized For It.
Thy Are Claiming CNN Forced The Apology And Threatened
To Reveal His True Identity.
Complete FAKE NEWS.

[Vermijelli]

13. CNN said this

"CNN is not publishing "HanA**holeSolo's" name because he is a private citizen who has issued an extensive statement of apology, showed his remorse by saying he has taken down all his offending posts, and because he said he is not going to repeat this ugly behavior on social media again. In addition, he said his statement could serve as an example to others not to do the same."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politics/kfile-reddit-user-trump-tweet/index.html

It's worrisome to see a professional news outfit behaving like this. I'm not going to ignore it just because I disagree with that redditor's satire/speech. It honestly sounds like something a third world despot would say after their political prisoner apologized.

[writes3000]

14. CNN Is Being A Class Act Here. They Are Taking Him At His Word and Keeping His Privacy

Even though the newsworthy thing to do would be to publish it.

And if rumors are correct and this is a 15 year old child, then even more credit to CNN.

[SaschaHM]

15. Right?

If the unhinged President of the United States reuses an image or video that you created, every news organization is going to hunt down your identity.

[Vermijelli]

19. That person could be an anti-Trumper one day

And let's not pretend that CNN isn't in a bit of a conflict of interest here.

[Vermijelli]

17. If it was Fauxnoise doing it to an anti-Trump redditor, the comments here would slightly different

We can't take a side with this shit.

[writes3000]

18. Doing what? Not publishing the person's name per their wishes?

[Vermijelli]

21. Yeah after hunting someone down who made satire at their expense

How nice of them! Like a despot releasing a political prisoner after a forced, groveling apology.

[octoberlib]

24. Actually CNN should just go ahead and print the guys name. It's not doxxing.

It's called investigative journalism.

[writes3000]

26. The newsworthy part was the racist, bigoted shit the person was posting.

Our President is being inspired by racist followers.

This is basically someone in the KKK being upset that a news organization wants to print their name after the same KKKer spray paints threats in the public square.

[angrychair]

39. With all due respect

This person inserted themselves into the public sphere of their own free choice. They created racist memes and created hit list of Jewish CNN employees, no one forced them.

This isn't the same as creating some positive pro-Dem message and right wing assholes choosing to harass them.
This person is being treated nicely considering he made the decision to inject his vile and dangerous meme "creation" in the public.

[janx]

60. According to Kaczynski at CNN,

the Reddit poster is a middle-aged man.

[WinkyDink]

30. You'll notice that CNN is not a government entity, so no, it DOESN'T sound "like

something....."

[musicblind]

32. The world would be a better place if sadistic trolls were doxed and had to actually own up

to all of the bullcrap they spew.

Doxing is NOT illegal except in very specific situations. The moral of this story: Don't write checks your butt can't cash.

[Shandris]

16. Here, in short.

Link to tweet

[writes3000]

20. Assange is lying again.

CNN simply stated they reserve the right to publish the name if the person does something newsworthy like continuing to post racist shit. If the poster wants notoriety then no harm!

[Shandris]

22. And that is a threat of shame (5) for participating in something he has the legal right to do.

It's very cut and dried. Minimizing it with 'simply' is myopic. We don't even want to PRETEND to support an idea like this. If you can't see how this will go over with people, you R.E.A.L.L.Y. need out of the bubble.

Not to mention the reporter flipflopped on his story the second it was pointed out. Anyone paying attention should at least not ~defend~ their action, if you don't choose to condemn it.

[writes3000]

25. There is no automatic right to privacy, period. If you are calling for the death of others,

If you are questioning the right of people to exist on this Earth, then you can't be appalled when someone identifies who you are.

Yes, it's simple.

[Shandris]

27. Which might be nice if it had LITERALLY ANYTHING to do with with the legal code.

Since it doesn't, and it's just your Stance of Principle, I'll just sort of nod and smile politely. You definitely need out of the bubble.

[writes3000]

28. This asshole was telling people they didn't have a right to live.

I'll stay in the "bubble" that believes that behavior deserves the notoriety it's received.

[Shandris]

29. Our people say the same to the Nazi's.

You want CNN doxxing them too? Or are we just going to openly demand special pleading?

Meh, I don't care enough to continue this idiocy. The question was asked, I provided the answer. Fin.

EDIT: Good Christ I just saw what he actually typed. Okay, our people don't say that stuff to the Nazi's, that's for sure. Detestable individual, this one. But we -still- don't want a precedent set where we have news organizations doxxing people for what they say, as you never know when what you say will no longer be 'allowed'.

[musicblind]

34. Anonymity has been a scourge on the internet.

I've never tried to hide my identity. I also try and be nice to people and even when I word things in a very, very strong way, I am willing to stand by those things. That's because I'm not a troll.

Doxing is not illegal. It may be a lot of things, but it isn't illegal.

[link:http://campbelllawobserver.com/doxing-a-legal-violation-of-privacy/|

Do you think people, on either side of the aisle, should be allowed to spew anonymous hate and try to cause mental anguish for other human beings as a source of personal pleasure?

[Shandris]

36. No one is claiming it is illegal.

Nor is anyone defending this guy. I'm pointing out that such a precedent can and will be deployed against us at some point, so getting behind it now is not a smart move. You don't expose a future, unending, critical weakness for the joy of smiting a goddamn 15 year old kid.

"Do you think people..." Do you think any 'authority' (lol) will be able to guarantee it can never be subverted to perpetuate it from an institutional level? If you can't answer 'yes', then I can't answer 'no', because no matter how lurid the words, the words of individual powerless people are nothing compared to institutional power with a standing army and a literal shadow army of intelligence agents.

[musicblind]

38. Jullian Assange is claiming it's illegal.

In fact, that's what most of the deplorable on twitter are claiming.

I don't want to smite this individual person. I want to end anonymous trolling on either side of the aisle. We saw awful trolling during the primaries from the far left as well. People should not be allowed to try and anonymously troll other people, regardless of their political party.

The personality of a troll is not a good thing. Trolling and psychopathic tendencies are co-related: [link:http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/climate_desk/2014/02/internet_troll_personality_study_machiavellianism_narcissism_psychopathy.html|

As for his age, do you have any source for that aside from rumors started by a 4chan user? Oh, and then he was a 15-year-old LGBT supporter. Now Twitter users are saying he is a 15-year-old LGBT youth. I'm not saying that claim isn't true, but I'll wait until a mainstream news outlet makes it.

And you need to reword the last paragraph a bit because it is very confusing, the way it is written. It sounds like you're saying that you can't answer my question unless I can answer your unrelated question about a slippery slope fallacy that involves armies? Because, if I understand you correctly, that IS a slippery slope fallacy. Any tool can be a weapon if you hold it right.

[octoberlib]

44. HanAssholeSolo is an adult

Link to tweet

[AngryAmish]

45. I don't give a shit how old they are, they need to know not to make fun of their betters.

[LovingA2andMI]

55. Depending on the age....

A minor would have to have parental consent to enter into any type of negotiations. See the lie here? The Individual was NOT 15 years old and this is another Trump Sick-A** Deplorable LIE.

[Tarc]

61. It's not a 15 yr old kid, that's an already tired Breitbart misdirection

This is an adult, a 40-somethging vet from Tennessee.

[octoberlib]

23. omg, the trolls just posted the home addresses and phone numbers

of Wolf Blitzer, Don Lemon, Brian Stetler and others.

[LovingA2andMI]

37. This Is Going To Get Ugly, Real Ugly....

Did anyone see the bait and switch here? Tomorrow's story was going to be about how the CNN Video Maker Apologized RIGHTFULLY (who cares how it was made to be done --- because personally, we don't) and Trump COMPLETELY walking pass a waiting Motorcade at the tarmac right by the plane and having to be redirected back to the motorcade. Full Dementia Moment in FULL DISPLAY.

GET IT NOW....

Thus, this non-story, non-story had to be the new "trend" on Twitter. The timing - less than three hours after the video of Trump's newest Dementia moment was going viral.

Look, anyone threatening or making a video used to threaten a NEWS ORGANIZATION should expect to be found out. Point, Blank, Period. News + Investigative Journalism. They go hand and hand.

However, this BS CRAPOLA about CNN finding the Reddit Video Maker of the threat on their NETWORK, the person apologizing, and CNN telling the individual before doing so --- if they did it again, they would reveal the source -- is to be expected. They are a NEWS ORGANIZATION who hire INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISTS.

Now Trump's Dementia moment leading ever so closer to #25thAmendmentNow is being buried to prop up a RACIST INDIVIDUAL WHO MADE A THREATENING VIDEO TARGETING A NEWS ORGANIZATION. Seriously? Get a grip people and get focused. This is BS. Trump's Dementia moment in time, IS NOT.

[octoberlib]

40. +1

And is there any proof this person is only 15? I've only seen this being posted on Twitter by trolls with no source.

[LovingA2andMI]

54. Never Agreed The Individual Was 15 Y. O......Because....

If so, a News Organization would have to deal with THEIR PARENT on any negotiation and not the individual directly. This was ANOTHER LIE from the Trump Deplorable's and more Bait and Switch.

[Initech]

48. I think the deplorables went too far with this one.

It was seriously ugly. I have never seen the kind of hate speech and violent threats like they were posting last night. If anyone working for CNN is harmed over this, it will be tied directly to Trump.

[Initech]

31. I should have known Mike Cernovich was behind this.

Fuck that fucking asshole. And the usual group of deplorables are behind this as well. God damn them.

[Shandris]

35. Interesting thing about Cernovich: He literally just popped up during Gamergate...

...seemingly out of nowhere at all and seemed to have a ready-made follower list that was already (supposedly) involved in the movement. Couple of others about the same time too, but none with such impact. How he went from his little site to GG to what he is now, well...that's a good question imo. His GG cred was basically what propelled him into an odd offshoot of the alt-right. Many of them consider him a plant.

Looks like the kind with backing far beyond a few 'deplorables'.

[Initech]

53. Well considering Infowars is paying people for CNN Is Isis crap...

I wouldn't be surprised if most of the idiots who were throwing around hate speech and death threats last night were trying to get a piece of that sweet Infowars money.

[oberliner]

41. The claim is that they threatened to "dox" him

There is a line in the CNN story about him saying they reserve the right to publish his identity should his behavior change.

To some that reads like a threat.

[samir.g]

46. They should publish his identity

Name, address, everything.

[octoberlib]

42. Just as I thought. Why do people believe trolls on the internet? HansAssholeSolo is NOT 15

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Kingofalldems]

43. Hmmmm. Becoming obvious now.

[alcibiades_mystery]

50. Been obvious for a long while

[Shell_Seas]

47. Because this is Trump's America.

[mcar]

51. Bots

[riversedge]

52. Trump fans howl blackmail after CNN finds Redditor who created presidents wrestling meme Raw Sto

Saw lots of Fox news tweets--they are really laying into CNN for this issue......



Trump fans howl ‘blackmail’ after CNN finds Redditor who created president’s wrestling meme


http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/trump-fans-howl-blackmail-after-cnn-finds-redditor-who-created-presidents-wrestling-meme/


05 Jul 2017 at 06:18 ET


CNN came under fire late Tuesday after the Reddit user who claimed credit for the tweet by President Donald Trump issued an apology as well as other offensive things he’s posted online.


CNN’s Andrew Kaczynski explains the research the staff that led to his Facebook page. At no time did they publish the man’s identity as they deemed his apology was sincere.

However, it’s the line that appears next that has sent Trump supporters over the cliff and claiming blackmail and “doxing” — a practice of revealing people’s private information publicly so physical attacks can be made. “CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change,” Kaczynski wrote.

“This line is being misinterpreted. It was intended only to mean we made no agreement w/the man about his identity,” Kaczynski wrote on Twitter Tuesday night.

It was also reported that the man was 15 years old, which Kaczynski also revealed was not true.


“HanAs*holeSolo” reached out to Kaczynski via phone on Wednesday and issued the statement, “I am in total agreement with your statement. I was not threatened in anyway.”

.............................................

[Kablooie]

56. Actually I thought the apology article was odd.

It was so long and warned others of doing similar things but the main oddity was CNN's comment that they were withholding the identity of the poster because of this apology but they reserved the right to reveal it if this changed.

That does sound like blackmail so of course the Trumpistas jumped on it.

It wasn't wise for CNN to say they would only keep the identity secret if the poster continued to appease them.

[bigtree]

58. trolls gonna troll