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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 09:46 AM Jul 2017

Confidence Boomed After the Election. The Economy Hasn't.

After Donald J. Trump won the presidential election, Americans’ optimism about the economic future soared. But midway through the year, that optimism has not translated into concrete economic gains.

This seeming contradiction exposes a reality about the role of psychology in economics — or more specifically, how psychology is connected only loosely to actual growth. It will take more than feelings to fix the sluggishness that has been evident in the United States and other major economies for years. Confidence isn’t some magic elixir for the economy: Businesses will hire and invest only when they see concrete evidence of demand for their products, and consumers intensify their spending only when their incomes justify it.

The sharp rise in economic optimism after the election came through no matter how the question was asked or who answered, whether the survey was intended to capture consumer confidence or consumer comfort or consumer sentiment. It was true in surveys of small-business owners and of C.E.O.s of some of the biggest companies in the world. And the rise during the winter months in these surveys has mostly been sustained in the months since.

But the economy is plodding along at the same modest rate it has for the last eight years nonetheless — at least when you look at “hard” data around economic activity instead of “soft” data like surveys, as analysts put it.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/04/upshot/confidence-boomed-after-the-election-the-economy-hasnt.html

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Confidence Boomed After the Election. The Economy Hasn't. (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2017 OP
This is why it was hilariously short sighted of Trump exboyfil Jul 2017 #1
Fox tried that in 2009: They tried calling it the "Obama-recession" and the "Bush-recovery". DetlefK Jul 2017 #3
Hilariously short-sighted? Orsino Jul 2017 #5
Where are they getting this insane information/statistics from? Iliyah Jul 2017 #2
The stock market hit a record last week.. flamingdem Jul 2017 #4

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
1. This is why it was hilariously short sighted of Trump
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 09:51 AM
Jul 2017

to claim macro economic successes a short time after the election. His supporters did the same. They took ownership of the economy with those statements. I tried to explain to them that the trajectory for the first year will have been set by the policy decisions that preceded the Trump administration.

I am waiting for them to blame Obama for the coming recession.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
3. Fox tried that in 2009: They tried calling it the "Obama-recession" and the "Bush-recovery".
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 11:24 AM
Jul 2017

Somehow that talking-point didn't stick...

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
5. Hilariously short-sighted?
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 11:41 AM
Jul 2017

Claiming success without evidence is all he has ever done. He'll seize on any fable anyone hands him, and crow about his accomplishments...because that is what has always worked for him.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. Where are they getting this insane information/statistics from?
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 09:52 AM
Jul 2017

Ok, I'm from the Los Angeles area and here there was and still is doom and gloom about the economy and almost everything else. As I can read, the good ole USA is in a parallel universe.

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