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UH OH, Ivanka sits in for Trump at G20 (Original Post) yortsed snacilbuper Jul 2017 OP
Did she get permission from Rabbi to work on Sat? HipChick Jul 2017 #1
Good point. Her religiosity is fake too, then muriel_volestrangler Jul 2017 #14
same enid602 Jul 2017 #48
I really don't understand why the GOP tolerates this kind of shit, GoCubsGo Jul 2017 #2
The bastards dont care as long as they can line their pockets. CentralMass Jul 2017 #6
She did some modeling when she was younger. nt tblue37 Jul 2017 #25
She walked one runway, same as Tiffany. She never did it on the regular. She's a model like I'm bettyellen Jul 2017 #29
She had a few pics in magaz and a "Seventeen" (I think it was) cover. nt tblue37 Jul 2017 #32
Here is info about the two or three years when she modeled as a teenager: tblue37 Jul 2017 #33
She got a few gigs because of her name, not her looks. Which is why other models didn't like her. bettyellen Jul 2017 #36
I am sure you are right. My point was just that she did do some modeling for tblue37 Jul 2017 #46
It's a weird fashion thing- using rich kids and children of celebs and you get bettyellen Jul 2017 #49
+1. nt tblue37 Jul 2017 #50
Face it. She is better qualified than her father. Sneederbunk Jul 2017 #3
They are both deeply unqualified alcibiades_mystery Jul 2017 #19
Allegations of nepotism? - n/t Jim__ Jul 2017 #4
Nepotism? How about Exhaustion and Mental Incompetence? NightWatcher Jul 2017 #5
This !!!!!! TexasProgresive Jul 2017 #8
Yes, and flagrantly out-of-line in U.S. political history. If Bush II or Obama or Clinton or Carter anneboleyn Jul 2017 #34
This is just outrageous! smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #7
I'd take that trade oberliner Jul 2017 #9
She's a grifter. Her father is the Grifter in Chief. MoonRiver Jul 2017 #11
Agreed oberliner Jul 2017 #12
Because she's not senile? Of course a normal functioning fascist could do more damage. MoonRiver Jul 2017 #15
Donald is more dangerous oberliner Jul 2017 #23
Ridiculous. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #30
He obviously didn't do the right thing oberliner Jul 2017 #40
Good God alcibiades_mystery Jul 2017 #17
I'd swap out Donald with just about any middling Republican oberliner Jul 2017 #21
A middling Republican Motownman78 Jul 2017 #26
Good point oberliner Jul 2017 #28
Why delineate this? NO Republican will EVER propose a fair, equitable, and sensible plan, let alone WinkyDink Jul 2017 #45
It was just a cut and paste oberliner Jul 2017 #47
That's what I first thought. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #31
No fucking way. She is not elected. Not one vote was cast for her. We do NOT live in a third world anneboleyn Jul 2017 #37
Not literally oberliner Jul 2017 #41
I don't think so. Did you read this? lunamagica Jul 2017 #38
It was just meant in jest oberliner Jul 2017 #42
She misheard 'Hamburg' as 'Handbag' convention leftstreet Jul 2017 #10
... nolabear Jul 2017 #18
You are the thread... 3catwoman3 Jul 2017 #20
... lunamagica Jul 2017 #39
Googoosha on the Potomac Tanuki Jul 2017 #13
The adult children of seniors suffering from dementia often cover up and compensate for their parent alcibiades_mystery Jul 2017 #16
This is true unfortunately... HipChick Jul 2017 #22
Where was he all this time? maveric Jul 2017 #24
Most likely, just wandering. n/t zbird Jul 2017 #27
It's clear he only has a passing interest in being the President. rogue emissary Jul 2017 #35
To be kind malaise Jul 2017 #43
Chinese disadents investigating Ivankas shoe factory disappear. yortsed snacilbuper Jul 2017 #44
Nepotism Barbie. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2017 #51

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
14. Good point. Her religiosity is fake too, then
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 11:09 AM
Jul 2017

It's not as if she was qualified to take part in the trip, let alone vital. I don't think other people get an exemption for a "take your daughter to work" day that you declare for yourself.

enid602

(8,616 posts)
48. same
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 08:44 AM
Jul 2017

Must have been that same Rabbi who gave her special dispensation to go into business with a major funder of Hezbollah to build a luxury hotel/condo tower in Baku, Azerbaijan.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
2. I really don't understand why the GOP tolerates this kind of shit,
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 10:50 AM
Jul 2017

let alone the rest of the country. I have to laugh at the description of her being a "fashion model", however, rather than what she is--a handbag saleswoman. Either way, she has no fucking business being there.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
29. She walked one runway, same as Tiffany. She never did it on the regular. She's a model like I'm
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 12:31 PM
Jul 2017

A dancer at Radio City Music Hall. I did that, but it wasn't my job.

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
33. Here is info about the two or three years when she modeled as a teenager:
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 01:27 PM
Jul 2017

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/news/a61670/who-is-ivanka-trump/

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SNIP

At 15, she tried out a modeling career, appearing on the cover of Seventeen and in a Tommy Hilfiger ad campaign, and even walking the runway for Versace and Thierry Mugler. Her parents weren't so keen on the idea. ''This is an interesting case,'' Donald told the New York Times in 1997. ''I am only modestly in favor of this because I understand that that life is a very fast life, and at that age it is always a risky proposition.'' She could only model if she got permission from her school and kept her grades up, and later reflected that she did it to get out of her boarding-school bubble.

According to The Guardian, she quit modeling after high school and later wrote that models were "the meanest, cattiest, bitchiest girls on the planet.

SNIP
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bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
36. She got a few gigs because of her name, not her looks. Which is why other models didn't like her.
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 02:42 PM
Jul 2017

It's like Brooklyn Beckham is a photographer, well yeah they gave him a coffee table book because his parents are powerful. He's technically doing it and getting money but it's not like he's any good at it. Designers always throw in celebrity kids or celebrities themselves- Prada men does it. Doesn't make those actors career models.

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
46. I am sure you are right. My point was just that she did do some modeling for
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 05:44 PM
Jul 2017

a couple of years, and was represented by Elite, so calling her a "fashion model" isn't as bizarre as it would be, for example, to call Tiffany a model.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
49. It's a weird fashion thing- using rich kids and children of celebs and you get
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 01:30 PM
Jul 2017

extra PR and they get an ego boost. And it looks like they're working instead of being the lazy shits they are. Agencies will rep anyone who is promised a single job. They just want their cut.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
19. They are both deeply unqualified
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 11:15 AM
Jul 2017

That's like saying my 11 year old is better qualified to be a professional hockey player than my 8 year old. Technically true, I suppose, but meaningless nonetheless.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
5. Nepotism? How about Exhaustion and Mental Incompetence?
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 10:56 AM
Jul 2017

He's too out of it to do his job for longer than two days in public. Remember when he pooped out last trip.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
34. Yes, and flagrantly out-of-line in U.S. political history. If Bush II or Obama or Clinton or Carter
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 02:13 PM
Jul 2017

or any of our presidents had continued to stick their unelected and entirely unqualified adult children in meetings with major political figures at critical world summits like the G20 instead of doing the work properly himself the outcry would have been deafening.

Honestly it is truly creepy that Trump pulls stunts like this, which are on the level of a third world dictator, and our gov., ALL the members of congress, are unwilling/unable to respond. It shows that there is a very serious weakness in our system.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
23. Donald is more dangerous
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 11:17 AM
Jul 2017

At least in my opinion. I'd trade him for any middle of the road Republican with a modicum of intelligence.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
40. He obviously didn't do the right thing
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 03:42 PM
Jul 2017

It's preposterous that he would allow his daughter to sit there.

 

Motownman78

(491 posts)
26. A middling Republican
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 12:16 PM
Jul 2017

would have been able to get rid of the ACA by now. We are being saved by the Dumpster Fire's incompetence.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
28. Good point
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 12:23 PM
Jul 2017

Here's Jeb Bush's plan:

What are the basics of Bush's plan?

Bush's speech and op-ed decry the "skyrocketing premium costs" he says Obamacare created and argue for giving more power to the states. With those as his major guiding principles, here are the highlights of his plan:

Repeal Obamacare, providing its 17 million participants a "transition plan" away from the program.

Give people tax credits to buy catastrophic health care plans.

Replace the so-called "Cadillac Tax," albeit with a policy similarly imposing higher taxes on expensive health plans.

Allow some businesses to contribute toward their workers' health insurance, in lieu of providing that coverage themselves.

Eliminate the benefits the ACA requires health plans to provide.

Increase the maximum amount that people can contribute to their health savings accounts from $3,350 to $6,650.

Cap federal health spending to states, creating what appears to be a block grant-like Medicaid program.

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/10/14/448570670/jeb-bush-has-a-plan-to-replace-obamacare-heres-whats-in-it

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
45. Why delineate this? NO Republican will EVER propose a fair, equitable, and sensible plan, let alone
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 05:44 PM
Jul 2017

one to replace the ACA.

BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT POINTS AND TINKERINGS AND THIS OR THAT IS "PROPOSED," THE TRUE AND REAL PURPOSE WILL BE TO GET MORE MONEY FOR THE 1%.

When one looks THROUGH THAT $$ LENS at EVERY SINGLE Republican plan for ANYTHING WHATSOEVER, the plan will make sense.

Enrich the Rich.

That is the Republican raison d'etre.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
37. No fucking way. She is not elected. Not one vote was cast for her. We do NOT live in a third world
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 03:13 PM
Jul 2017

dictatorship in which it's okay for a leader to place his children in ridiculously undeserved positions of authority when nobody voted for them. The fact that this behavior is even being allowed by our congress is rather terrifying -- think about this long term. What if Mike Pence, after a suspicious election, begins installing his children in various positions in which they are meeting with major world leaders! This isn't paranoia. The fact that Trump's children are being allowed to usurp out political system should be offensive to every voter in this country (I wouldn't give a shit if Ivanka was a Rhodes Scholar with three Ph.D.s and an M.D. and an Ivy League law degree -- she is not an elected official and in no way should be representing the fucking president in official meetings and the interests of the American people). The point isn't whether Ivanka is "better" than Trump. The point is that our system is being systematically undermined.

This was a major world summit, and the idea that the absurdly unqualified and unelected Ivanka Trump ffs was in meetings with major world leaders b/c her father is too tired/incompetent/whatever to conduct his duties is insane. Simply insane -- and of course it sets a terrible precedent.

This is not our system of government, and this is totally unacceptable and is making us a laughingstock in front of the world.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
41. Not literally
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 03:43 PM
Jul 2017

Just in fantasy-land - if you made me choose between magically having her be POTUS over Trump (and those were the only two options), I'd choose her.

Obviously, Trump having his daughter sit there at that event was insane.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
42. It was just meant in jest
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 03:44 PM
Jul 2017

As in - Trump is so bad, I'd rather his ridiculous unqualified daughter who no one voted for be POTUS instead of him.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
13. Googoosha on the Potomac
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 11:08 AM
Jul 2017
https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dads-accused-of-boiling-people-alive-but-googoosha-aka-gulnara-karimova-just-wants-to-be-a-star-8054036.html%3Famp

..."But there is one thing that all the publicity for Googoosha, usually pictured with layers of make-up and lips suggestively parted, fails to mention: her real name is Gulnara Karimova, and she is the daughter of one of the world's most brutal dictators, Uzbekistan's Islam Karimov.

Mr Karimov, who has run Uzbekistan since the break up of the Soviet Union, has been accused of boiling dissidents to death, and his security forces shot dead hundreds of unarmed protestors in 2005. Child labour is widespread, with schoolchildren forced into several months of cotton picking every year.

Critics of the Uzbek regime, including former British Ambassador Craig Murray, have said repeatedly that Ms Karimova is personally tied up in the family's huge levels of corruption, and for a time was linked to a Swiss company widely seen as a money laundering vehicle for the regime's proceeds, though she always denied this.

An American diplomatic cable released by WikiLeaks showed just what ordinary Uzbeks think of her: "Most Uzbeks see Karimova as a greedy, power-hungry individual who uses her father to crush business people or anyone else who stands in her way," it stated. "She remains the single most hated person in the country."
.....

Long talked of as a potential successor to her ageing father, the 40-year-old dictator's daughter studied at Harvard and has since embarked on a series of attempts to give herself international legitimacy, including as a fashion and jewellery designer. A fashion show of hers at New York Fashion Week was cancelled last year after protests from human rights groups."...(more)


 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
16. The adult children of seniors suffering from dementia often cover up and compensate for their parent
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 11:13 AM
Jul 2017

It's been obvious since go that Ms. Trump and her husband Mr. Kushner are in place to tend to Trump and conceal his deteriorating condition.

rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
35. It's clear he only has a passing interest in being the President.
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 02:37 PM
Jul 2017

Frankly, if he isn't doing something to piss of Liberals or playing golf. He really doesn't have any concern in doing the day to day work of running the country.

malaise

(268,968 posts)
43. To be kind
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 03:54 PM
Jul 2017

That was disgraceful - shocking - there really are no words.

Lock them up! This is madness on steroids.

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
44. Chinese disadents investigating Ivankas shoe factory disappear.
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 05:36 PM
Jul 2017

SHANGHAI — China faces growing pressure to release three labor activists detained for investigating conditions at factories that make Ivanka Trump’s shoe brand, as experts warned that the detentions could make it more difficult for other Western companies to take a clear look at the practices of their Chinese suppliers

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/06/business/china-labor-activists-ivanka-trump-shoes.html

Ivanka can get you disappeared!

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