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By Ellen Nakashima July 8 at 8:39 PM
Russian government hackers were behind recent cyber-intrusions into the business systems of U.S. nuclear power and other energy companies in what appears to be an effort to assess their networks, according to U.S. government officials.
The U.S. officials said there is no evidence the hackers breached or disrupted the core systems controlling operations at the plants, so the public was not at risk. Rather, they said, the hackers broke into systems dealing with business and administrative tasks, such as personnel.
At the end of June, the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security sent a joint alert to the energy sector stating that advanced, persistent threat actors a euphemism for sophisticated foreign hackers were stealing network log-in and password information to gain a foothold in company networks. The agencies did not name Russia.
The campaign marks the first time Russian government hackers are known to have wormed their way into the networks of American nuclear power companies, several U.S. and industry officials said. And the penetration could be a sign that Russia is seeking to lay the groundwork for more damaging hacks.
More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-officials-say-russian-government-hackers-have-penetrated-energy-and-nuclear-company-business-networks/2017/07/08/bbfde9a2-638b-11e7-8adc-fea80e32bf47_story.html?utm_term=.7e03bca65787
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yardwork
(61,604 posts)Snarkoleptic
(5,997 posts)All that's left is for Putin to Deny and Trump to accept the assertion that Russia was not involved.
eShirl
(18,490 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,686 posts)because BFF Putin told him they don't do such things.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)To not know that 90% of intrusion attempts into one's home or work network are from either China or Russia. The hip thing now is to lock out Russian and Chinese traffic completely.
GitRDun
(1,846 posts)I would love to see some reporting on this?
It feels like we are a bunch of helpless children
But you will not hear about it.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)To defend America against these acts of war by Russia. Pathetic.
progressoid
(49,988 posts)Igel
(35,300 posts)Sanctions? More of them? Getting hard--plus there's the question as to who sanctions hurt.
Sanctions against Iran were merrily junked because of all the jobs it would mean for Americans. Same for Cuban sanctions. Sanctions against Iraq were considered horrible because commoners suffered--and the same case was made for Iran and Cuba. Even if most citizens did support their governments.
Military action? Bad idea.
Hacking attempts against Russia? Such are best with people who don't matter left out of the loop. That would be you and me.
Complain? Well, that feels good, but it's a waste of time. Plus it's not like we didn't know that various actors were trying to probe for weaknesses. Russia, we like to think, started this kind of hybrid war in the Ukraine--when military support would have made a bigger difference than sanctions. But Stuxnet has to be seen as a good predecessor to this, and it wasn't the first such malware.
Problem is that Microsoft may update things, other vendors may plug holes, but somebody always feels the need to reveal every weakness and flaw because they're just so damned important. It takes them a while to find the flaws, and it's likely that not every hostile foreign intelligence agency knows them all. Until they read about the boasts. "Ha, ha! I found a simple trick that'll disable government computers--just use this code!" And we act like it's a horrible thing that somebody uses that weakness. (We don't put signs in front of our houses: "I lost my house key so I can't lock my door until Friday when the locksmith come. So thieves, just stay out!"
We could have regulations. But regulations are just orders for somebody to do something. If they don't know to do it, if they can't do it, the regulations are pointless or unethical.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)and not immediately go submissive and whine that there is nothing to be done, like the republicans.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)most people on this board figured the Russians had not left.
JI7
(89,249 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)the door.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)in a small area, the rest of the deplorables will finally open their eyes as to what's going on between trump and putin.
ancianita
(36,053 posts)ancianita
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We made these systems. However good everyone else is at using them, we are better.
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)Last edited Sun Jul 9, 2017, 09:44 AM - Edit history (1)
medium-sized US cities and widespread civil unrest would break out in a matter of days.
Igel
(35,300 posts)It might knock out the email or accounting systems to the power companies servicing two or three medium-sized cities, but the unrest that resulted from not hearing back from customer service or having bills processes could easily be handled by a thousand cops with rubber bullets and stun grenades.
Or a PSA saying that their email and accounting systems are off line. Whichever is more satisfying.
Mostly they're finding that the control systems =/= email systems. Now, are there ways to get malware handcarried between systems? Sure.
And the reason the Russians know about them is trade journals and the US press. That's how I know about them.
onethatcares
(16,168 posts)i was in a box store buying building materials three months ago and the cashier stands would not accept credit or debit cards for about an hour.
The anger shown by customers that couldn't buy their 2x4s and ceiling fans and the related items was eye opening.
lindysalsagal
(20,680 posts)but I have no such faith. They could take us down.
C Moon
(12,213 posts)I can't help but wonder if they are testing things.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-power-explosion-20170708-story.html
More likely overheated in the heat wave, but this kind of thing is always worrisome.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)BLOTUS eagerly shakes his hand, pats his back and says, "It's an honor to meet you." Stupid fuck..
Demsrule86
(68,561 posts)Putin is a bad guy...I would like to see the GOP get rid of Comrade Trump even if we are stuck with Pence. Trump is dangerously unqualified.