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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHillary Clinton looks for her role in midterms
BY AMIE PARNES - 07/08/17 12:17 PM EDT
Hillary Clinton wants to play a role in next years midterm elections. Its just not clear yet what that role will be.
Clinton has already launched a PAC aimed at helping congressional Democratic candidates in 2018, signaling the former first lady, senator and secretary of State is ready to help her party with fundraising.
She also is looking at the House districts she won in last years presidential contest against Donald Trump as part of an autopsy of her failed campaign, according to two sources who have spoken to the former Secretary of State.
Its at least possible shell lend a hand on the campaign trail particularly in the 23 districts held by Republicans where voters preferred her over Donald Trump for the White House. She's very well aware of how she performed in those districts, said one longtime Clinton confidant who has spoken to the former Democratic nominee.
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http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/341052-hillary-clinton-looks-for-her-role-in-midterms
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)to meddling, book-flogging gossip mongers about the person whose confidence they allegedly hold, do they actually say things like
"No one can argue that Clinton helping in those areas wouldn't be helpful.
Sales slow this week, Amie?
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)I will be interested when she and her husband form a foundation to offer scholarships and other help to families who have directly suffered due to mass incarceration.
mcar
(42,307 posts)SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)Despite the facts and figures that show the uptick occurring thanks to Reagan's and Nixon's policies. I find it odd that Democrats want to pin mass incarceration on our party while letting the primarily Republican actors/drivers of it slide on DU...
mcar
(42,307 posts)Zombie lies about the Clintons will never die.
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)the misrepresentation for years.
http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/2016/03/greeting-from-babel-basic-facts-you.html
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Who advocated it, and has since said he was wrong? Who also took welfare away as income providers were going to jail leaving women and children in dire straits and limiting their future opportunities? This happened. Bill Clinton has stated publicly that he was wrong. Why not step in and try to make up for the damage done.
nikibatts
(2,198 posts)No, they were not asking for 3 strikes but they sure as hell were asking for incarceration of neighborhood drug dealers who were almost enslaving their younger siblings to do their leg work and they were enticing them to join gangs and seek the quick wealth that drug dealing offered. I lived through elderly black men and women being robbed in their homes and on the streets and by some kids they knew and others who had great influence over their children and grandchildren. Bill Clinton was fighting an uphill battle and had already vetoed two previous crime bills that contained no drug treatment help and no programs to offer to young people. He finally signed a bill that contained midnight baseball and a few other programs for inner city youth. That bill he had already been warned would be passed over his third veto. So, folks can say all they want to that the fault for mass incarceration was Bill Clinton's fault and that means you buy into the meme (maybe a part of the fake news an bots launched on the Bernie fans) but it is not accurate and is and was an unnecessary distraction from and damaging meme to Hillary's campaign. Bill Clinton has stated publicly that he was sorry for the unintentional outcome of that Bill and sorry that 3 strikes was a part of it all.
To press to keep Hillary from playing an important role in the coming campaigns does a great disservice to the loyal and hardworking Democrats who are putting their time, energy, finances and maybe even their lives on the line to fight the GOP and uphold Democratic values.
JI7
(89,248 posts)And things would be worse off with republicans.
Republicans win congress which he had to deal with.
Thank God for the dog whistle and having a candidate willing to use it.
JI7
(89,248 posts)That's the country we live in.
The divide I this country is more about race than ideology.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)It was inexcusable.
JI7
(89,248 posts)Like California also.
My point is there are a lot of racists in this country and they support these things.
They voted in the right wing gingrich led congress that Clinton had to deal with.
Just look at all the juries that vote to set cops and people like zimmerman free that killed innocent people.
And of course most recently those that voted trump.
People vote for this shit.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)However, there is a core logic which Clinton and the DLC operated on in the late 80s/Early 90s that may have been instrumental in his winning two terms, and may not have. Leaving that aside, there is NO evidence that the electorate of today is somehow inclined in a similar direction as it was in, say, the post-Walter Mondale era.
It's fallacious logic.
Mark Penn seems to think the voting public wants to ramp up the drug war and "get tough" with things like ....pot smoking. How the fuck does that gel with an electorate that passed 8 of 9 ballot measures liberalizing marijuana laws? Weed did better this previous November than either party did, hello!
It's fucking nonsensical, and a huge mis-read of where the voters' sentiment lies.
Oddly enough, a more small-l libertarian approach to personal freedom issues is one place where large numbers of red AND blue voters agree. Who the fuck is demanding more drug users in prison, other than Chris Christie and Jeff Sessions? Even the fucking Koch brothers agree with the dreaded Liberal bugaboo Soros that the drug war is a failed joke.
Furthermore, we've had a two-term Democratic President MORE recently than Bill Clinton, one who won significant majorities by, in many cases, bucking what was supposed to be "conventional" beltway wisdom. The idea that only Clinton-type advisors like Mark Penn can save the Democratic party from itself is a tired falsehood.
JI7
(89,248 posts)them do .
i look at what they vote for and they still vote for shitty republicans because they support the wall and other stupid shit.
look at the opiod use and how many of the people dealing with is see the solution as building a wall and keeping mexicans out.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Which is nice for the beltway people desperately trying to save their beltway drug war gravy train.
Get out west to the rockies and beyond, people understand that the drug war has failed. Know what has been proven to reduce opioid use rates? Increased access to legal cannabis.
still_one
(92,185 posts)said it was wrong
However, while the legislation accelerated incarcerations, especially among African Americans, even before that law, those incarcerations had been occurring in higher numbers than they should have been, and while that in no way justifies ill conceived law and Bill Clinton's signing it, it also is unfair to blame this all on Clinton
It also is unfair to Hillary who wants to help with the 2018 midterms, and bringing in the Clinton Foundation with the false implication that it is not involved in improving the social and economic conditions among Americans and throughout the world
In fact it's charter is very similar to the Carter Foundation, and the work of most of these foundations
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)Sec. Clinton was not of course in office during that time. See below for a list of House members who voted for the crime bill. Also, under Trump and session...mass incarceration will increase sharply. Had Hillary been elected that would not be the case.
All Votes
Vote Party Representative District
Alabama
No Vote R Callahan, L. AL 1st
No R Everett, Terry AL 2nd
Aye D Browder, John AL 3rd
No D Bevill, Tom AL 4th
Aye D Cramer, Bud AL 5th
No R Bachus, Spencer AL 6th
No D Hilliard, Earl AL 7th
Alaska
No R Young, Don AK
Arizona
Aye D Coppersmith, Samuel AZ 1st
Aye D Pastor, Ed AZ 2nd
No R Stump, Robert AZ 3rd
Aye R Kyl, Jon AZ 4th
Aye R Kolbe, Jim AZ 5th
Aye D English, Karan AZ 6th
Arkansas
Aye D Lincoln, Blanche AR 1st
Aye D Thornton, Ray AR 2nd
No R Hutchinson, Tim AR 3rd
No R Dickey, Jay AR 4th
California
Aye D Hamburg, Daniel CA 1st
No R Herger, Wally CA 2nd
Aye D Fazio, Victor CA 3rd
No R Doolittle, John CA 4th
Aye D Matsui, Robert CA 5th
Aye D Woolsey, Lynn CA 6th
Aye D Miller, George CA 7th
Aye D Pelosi, Nancy CA 8th
No D Dellums, Ronald CA 9th
No R Baker, William CA 10th
No R Pombo, Richard CA 11th
Aye D Lantos, Tom CA 12th
Aye D Stark, Pete CA 13th
Aye D Eshoo, Anna CA 14th
Aye D Mineta, Norman CA 15th
Aye D Edwards, Don CA 16th
Aye D Farr, Sam CA 17th
Aye D Condit, Gary CA 18th
Aye D Lehman, Richard CA 19th
Aye D Dooley, Cal CA 20th
No R Thomas, Bill CA 21st
Aye R Huffington, Michael CA 22nd
Aye R Gallegly, Elton CA 23rd
Aye D Beilenson, Anthony CA 24th
No R McKeon, Buck CA 25th
Aye D Berman, Howard CA 26th
No R Moorhead, Carlos CA 27th
No R Dreier, David CA 28th
Aye D Waxman, Henry CA 29th
Aye D Becerra, Xavier CA 30th
Aye D Martínez, Matthew CA 31st
Aye D Dixon, Julian CA 32nd
Aye D Roybal-Allard, Lucille CA 33rd
Aye D Torres, Esteban CA 34th
No D Waters, Maxine CA 35th
Aye D Harman, Jane CA 36th
No Vote D Tucker, Walter CA 37th
Aye R Horn, Stephen CA 38th
No R Royce, Ed CA 39th
No R Lewis, Jerry CA 40th
No R Kim, Jay CA 41st
Aye D Brown, George CA 42nd
No R Calvert, Ken CA 43rd
No R McCandless, Alfred CA 44th
No R Rohrabacher, Dana CA 45th
No R Dornan, Robert CA 46th
No R Cox, Christopher CA 47th
No R Packard, Ron CA 48th
Aye D Schenk, Lynn CA 49th
Aye D Filner, Bob CA 50th
No R Cunningham, Duke CA 51st
No R Hunter, Duncan CA 52nd
Colorado
Aye D Schroeder, Patricia CO 1st
Aye D Skaggs, David CO 2nd
No R McInnis, Scott CO 3rd
No R Allard, Wayne CO 4th
No R Hefley, Joel CO 5th
No R Schaefer, Dan CO 6th
Connecticut
Aye D Kennelly, Barbara CT 1st
Aye D Gejdenson, Sam CT 2nd
Aye D DeLauro, Rosa CT 3rd
Aye R Shays, Christopher CT 4th
Aye R Franks, Gary CT 5th
Aye R Johnson, Nancy CT 6th
Delaware
Aye R Castle, Michael DE
Florida
No D Hutto, Earl FL 1st
No D Peterson, Pete FL 2nd
Aye D Brown, Corrine FL 3rd
No R Fowler, Tillie FL 4th
No D Thurman, Karen FL 5th
No R Stearns, Cliff FL 6th
No R Mica, John FL 7th
No R McCollum, Bill FL 8th
No R Bilirakis, Michael FL 9th
No R Young, W. Bill FL 10th
Aye D Gibbons, Sam FL 11th
Aye R Canady, Charles FL 12th
No R Miller, Dan FL 13th
No R Goss, Porter FL 14th
Aye D Bacchus, James FL 15th
No R Lewis, Thomas FL 16th
Aye D Meek, Carrie FL 17th
Aye R Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana FL 18th
Aye D Johnston, Harry FL 19th
Aye D Deutsch, Peter FL 20th
Aye R Diaz-Balart, Lincoln FL 21st
Aye R Shaw, Clay FL 22nd
Aye D Hastings, Alcee FL 23rd
Georgia
No R Kingston, Jack GA 1st
Aye D Bishop, Sanford GA 2nd
No R Collins, Mac GA 3rd
No R Linder, John GA 4th
No D Lewis, John GA 5th
No R Gingrich, Newton GA 6th
Aye D Darden, Buddy GA 7th
No Vote D Rowland, James GA 8th
No D Deal, Nathan GA 9th
Aye D Johnson, Don GA 10th
Aye D McKinney, Cynthia GA 11th
Hawaii
Aye D Abercrombie, Neil HI 1st
Aye D Mink, Patsy HI 2nd
Idaho
No D LaRocco, Larry ID 1st
No R Crapo, Michael ID 2nd
Illinois
Aye D Rush, Bobby IL 1st
Aye D Reynolds, Mel IL 2nd
Aye D Lipinski, William IL 3rd
Aye D Gutiérrez, Luis IL 4th
Aye D Rostenkowski, Daniel IL 5th
No R Hyde, Henry IL 6th
Aye D Collins, Cardiss IL 7th
No R Crane, Phil IL 8th
Aye D Yates, Sidney IL 9th
Aye R Porter, John IL 10th
Aye D Sangmeister, George IL 11th
Aye D Costello, Jerry IL 12th
No R Fawell, Harris IL 13th
No R Hastert, Denny IL 14th
No R Ewing, Thomas IL 15th
No R Manzullo, Donald IL 16th
Aye D Evans, Lane IL 17th
No R Michel, Robert IL 18th
Aye D Poshard, Glenn IL 19th
Aye D Durbin, Richard IL 20th
Indiana
Aye D Visclosky, Peter IN 1st
Aye D Sharp, Philip IN 2nd
Aye D Roemer, Timothy IN 3rd
Aye D Long Thompson, Jill IN 4th
No R Buyer, Steve IN 5th
No R Burton, Dan IN 6th
No R Myers, John IN 7th
Vote Party Representative District
Aye D McCloskey, Francis IN 8th
Aye D Hamilton, Lee IN 9th
Aye D Jacobs, Andrew IN 10th
Iowa
Aye R Leach, Jim IA 1st
No R Nussle, Jim IA 2nd
No R Lightfoot, James IA 3rd
Aye D Smith, Neal IA 4th
Aye R Grandy, Frederick IA 5th
Kansas
No R Roberts, Pat KS 1st
Aye D Slattery, James KS 2nd
Aye R Meyers, Jan KS 3rd
Aye D Glickman, Daniel KS 4th
Kentucky
No D Barlow, Thomas KY 1st
No R Lewis, Ron KY 2nd
Aye D Mazzoli, Romano KY 3rd
No R Bunning, Jim KY 4th
No R Rogers, Hal KY 5th
Aye D Baesler, Henry KY 6th
Louisiana
No R Livingston, Robert LA 1st
Aye D Jefferson, William LA 2nd
No D Tauzin, Billy LA 3rd
No D Fields, Cleo LA 4th
No R McCrery, Jim LA 5th
No R Baker, Richard LA 6th
No D Hayes, James LA 7th
Maine
Aye D Andrews, Thomas ME 1st
Aye R Snowe, Olympia ME 2nd
Maryland
Aye R Gilchrest, Wayne MD 1st
No R Bentley, Helen MD 2nd
Aye D Cardin, Benjamin MD 3rd
Aye D Wynn, Albert MD 4th
Aye D Hoyer, Steny MD 5th
No R Bartlett, Roscoe MD 6th
Aye D Mfume, Kweisi MD 7th
Aye R Morella, Constance MD 8th
Massachusetts
Aye D Olver, John MA 1st
Aye D Neal, Richard MA 2nd
Aye R Blute, Peter MA 3rd
Aye D Frank, Barney MA 4th
Aye D Meehan, Marty MA 5th
Aye R Torkildsen, Peter MA 6th
Aye D Markey, Ed MA 7th
Aye D Kennedy, Joseph MA 8th
Aye D Moakley, John MA 9th
Aye D Studds, Gerry MA 10th
Michigan
No D Stupak, Bart MI 1st
No R Hoekstra, Pete MI 2nd
No R Ehlers, Vernon MI 3rd
No R Camp, Dave MI 4th
No D Barcia, James MI 5th
Aye R Upton, Fred MI 6th
No R Smith, Nick MI 7th
Aye D Carr, Bob MI 8th
Aye D Kildee, Dale MI 9th
Aye D Bonior, David MI 10th
No R Knollenberg, Joe MI 11th
Aye D Levin, Sander MI 12th
Aye D Ford, William MI 13th
No D Conyers, John MI 14th
Aye D Collins, Barbara-Rose MI 15th
Aye D Dingell, John MI 16th
Minnesota
No D Penny, Timothy MN 1st
Aye D Minge, David MN 2nd
Aye R Ramstad, Jim MN 3rd
Aye D Vento, Bruce MN 4th
No D Sabo, Martin MN 5th
No R Grams, Rod MN 6th
No D Peterson, Collin MN 7th
No D Oberstar, James MN 8th
Mississippi
Aye D Whitten, Jamie MS 1st
Aye D Thompson, Bennie MS 2nd
No D Montgomery, Sonny MS 3rd
No D Parker, Mike MS 4th
No D Taylor, Gene MS 5th
Missouri
No D Clay, Bill MO 1st
Aye R Talent, Jim MO 2nd
Aye D Gephardt, Dick MO 3rd
No D Skelton, Ike MO 4th
Aye D Wheat, Alan MO 5th
No D Danner, Pat MO 6th
No R Hancock, Mel MO 7th
No R Emerson, Bill MO 8th
No D Volkmer, Harold MO 9th
Montana
No D Williams, John MT 1st
Nebraska
No R Bereuter, Doug NE 1st
Aye D Hoagland, Peter NE 2nd
No R Barrett, Bill NE 3rd
Nevada
Aye D Bilbray, James NV 1st
No R Vucanovich, Barbara NV 2nd
New Hampshire
No R Zeliff, William NH 1st
Aye D Swett, Richard NH 2nd
New Jersey
Aye D Andrews, Rob NJ 1st
Aye D Hughes, William NJ 2nd
Aye R Saxton, Jim NJ 3rd
Aye R Smith, Chris NJ 4th
Aye R Roukema, Marge NJ 5th
Aye D Pallone, Frank NJ 6th
Aye R Franks, Bob NJ 7th
Aye D Klein, Herbert NJ 8th
Aye D Torricelli, Robert NJ 9th
No D Payne, Donald NJ 10th
No R Gallo, Dean NJ 11th
Aye R Zimmer, Richard NJ 12th
Aye D Menéndez, Bob NJ 13th
New Mexico
No R Schiff, Steven NM 1st
No R Skeen, Joseph NM 2nd
Aye D Richardson, William NM 3rd
New York
Aye D Hochbrueckner, George NY 1st
Aye R Lazio, Rick NY 2nd
Aye R King, Pete NY 3rd
Aye R Levy, David NY 4th
Aye D Ackerman, Gary NY 5th
Aye D Flake, Floyd NY 6th
Aye D Manton, Thomas NY 7th
No D Nadler, Jerrold NY 8th
Aye D Schumer, Chuck NY 9th
Aye D Towns, Ed NY 10th
Aye D Owens, Major NY 11th
Aye D Velázquez, Nydia NY 12th
Aye R Molinari, Susan NY 13th
Aye D Maloney, Carolyn NY 14th
No D Rangel, Charles NY 15th
Aye D Serrano, José NY 16th
Aye D Engel, Eliot NY 17th
Aye D Lowey, Nita NY 18th
No R Fish, Hamilton NY 19th
No R Gilman, Benjamin NY 20th
Aye D McNulty, Michael NY 21st
No R Solomon, Gerald NY 22nd
Aye R Boehlert, Sherry NY 23rd
No R McHugh, John NY 24th
Aye R Walsh, Jim NY 25th
Aye D Hinchey, Maurice NY 26th
No R Paxon, William NY 27th
Aye D Slaughter, Louise NY 28th
Aye D LaFalce, John NY 29th
Aye R Quinn, Jack NY 30th
Aye R Houghton, Amo NY 31st
North Carolina
Aye D Clayton, Eva NC 1st
No Vote D Valentine, Tim NC 2nd
Aye D Lancaster, Martin NC 3rd
Aye D Price, David NC 4th
Aye D Neal, Stephen NC 5th
Vote Party Representative District
No R Coble, Howard NC 6th
Aye D Rose, Charles NC 7th
Aye D Hefner, Bill NC 8th
No R McMillan, John NC 9th
No R Ballenger, Cass NC 10th
No R Taylor, Charles NC 11th
No D Watt, Mel NC 12th
North Dakota
Aye D Pomeroy, Earl ND
Ohio
Aye D Mann, David OH 1st
No R Portman, Rob OH 2nd
Aye D Hall, Tony OH 3rd
No R Oxley, Michael OH 4th
No R Gillmor, Paul OH 5th
No D Strickland, Ted OH 6th
Aye R Hobson, Dave OH 7th
No R Boehner, John OH 8th
Aye D Kaptur, Marcy OH 9th
No R Hoke, Martin OH 10th
No D Stokes, Louis OH 11th
Aye R Kasich, John OH 12th
Aye D Brown, Sherrod OH 13th
Aye D Sawyer, Thomas OH 14th
Aye R Pryce, Deborah OH 15th
No R Regula, Ralph OH 16th
Aye D Traficant, James OH 17th
Aye D Applegate, Douglas OH 18th
Aye D Fingerhut, Eric OH 19th
Oklahoma
No D Synar, Michael OK 2nd
No D Brewster, William OK 3rd
Aye D McCurdy, David OK 4th
No R Istook, Ernest OK 5th
No R Lucas, Frank OK 6th
No R Inhofe, Jim OK
Oregon
Aye D Furse, Elizabeth OR 1st
No R Smith, Robert OR 2nd
Aye D Wyden, Ron OR 3rd
No D DeFazio, Peter OR 4th
No D Kopetski, Michael OR 5th
Pennsylvania
Aye D Foglietta, Thomas PA 1st
Aye D Blackwell, Lucien PA 2nd
Aye D Borski, Robert PA 3rd
No D Klink, Ron PA 4th
No R Clinger, William PA 5th
Aye D Holden, Tim PA 6th
Aye R Weldon, Curt PA 7th
Aye R Greenwood, Jim PA 8th
No R Shuster, Bud PA 9th
No R McDade, Joseph PA 10th
No D Kanjorski, Paul PA 11th
No D Murtha, John PA 12th
Aye D Margolies-Mezvinsky, Marjorie PA 13th
Aye D Coyne, William PA 14th
Aye D McHale, Paul PA 15th
No R Walker, Robert PA 16th
No R Gekas, George PA 17th
No R Santorum, Rick PA 18th
No R Goodling, William PA 19th
No D Murphy, Austin PA 20th
Aye R Ridge, Thomas PA 21st
Rhode Island
Aye R Machtley, Ronald RI 1st
Aye D Reed, John RI 2nd
South Carolina
No R Ravenel, Arthur SC 1st
No R Spence, Floyd SC 2nd
Aye D Derrick, Butler SC 3rd
No R Inglis, Bob SC 4th
Aye D Spratt, John SC 5th
Aye D Clyburn, Jim SC 6th
South Dakota
Aye D Johnson, Tim SD
Tennessee
No R Quillen, James TN 1st
No R Duncan, John TN 2nd
Aye D Lloyd, Marilyn TN 3rd
No D Cooper, Jim TN 4th
Aye D Clement, Robert TN 5th
Aye D Gordon, Bart TN 6th
No R Sundquist, Donald TN 7th
No D Tanner, John TN 8th
Aye D Ford, Harold TN 9th
Texas
Aye D Chapman, Jim TX 1st
No D Wilson, Charles TX 2nd
No R Johnson, Sam TX 3rd
No D Hall, Ralph TX 4th
Aye D Bryant, John TX 5th
No R Barton, Joe TX 6th
No R Archer, Bill TX 7th
No R Fields, Jack TX 8th
Aye D Brooks, Jack TX 9th
Aye D Pickle, Jake TX 10th
Aye D Edwards, Chet TX 11th
No D Geren, Pete TX 12th
No D Sarpalius, William TX 13th
No D Laughlin, Gregory TX 14th
No D de la Garza, Kika TX 15th
Aye D Coleman, Ronald TX 16th
No D Stenholm, Charles TX 17th
No Vote D Washington, Craig TX 18th
No R Combest, Larry TX 19th
Aye D González, Henry TX 20th
No R Smith, Lamar TX 21st
No R DeLay, Tom TX 22nd
No R Bonilla, Henry TX 23rd
Aye D Frost, Jonas TX 24th
Aye D Andrews, Michael TX 25th
No R Armey, Richard TX 26th
No D Ortiz, Solomon TX 27th
No D Tejeda, Frank TX 28th
Aye D Green, Gene TX 29th
Aye D Johnson, Eddie TX 30th
Utah
No R Hansen, James UT 1st
Aye D Shepherd, Karen UT 2nd
No D Orton, William UT 3rd
Vermont
Aye I Sanders, Bernie VT
Virginia
No R Bateman, Herbert VA 1st
No D Pickett, Owen VA 2nd
No D Scott, Bobby VA 3rd
No D Sisisky, Norman VA 4th
No D Payne, Lewis VA 5th
No R Goodlatte, Bob VA 6th
No R Bliley, Tom VA 7th
Aye D Moran, Jim VA 8th
No D Boucher, Rick VA 9th
No R Wolf, Frank VA 10th
Aye D Byrne, Leslie VA 11th
Washington
Aye D Cantwell, Maria WA 1st
Aye D Swift, Allan WA 2nd
No D Unsoeld, Jolene WA 3rd
Aye D Inslee, Jay WA 4th
Aye D Foley, Thomas WA 5th
Aye D Dicks, Norm WA 6th
Aye D McDermott, Jim WA 7th
No R Dunn, Jennifer WA 8th
Aye D Kreidler, Mike WA 9th
West Virginia
No D Mollohan, Alan WV 1st
No D Wise, Robert WV 2nd
No D Rahall, Nick WV 3rd
Wisconsin
Aye D Barca, Peter WI 1st
Aye R Klug, Scott WI 2nd
No R Gunderson, Steven WI 3rd
Aye D Kleczka, Jerry WI 4th
Aye D Barrett, Thomas WI 5th
No R Petri, Tom WI 6th
Aye D Obey, Dave WI 7th
No R Roth, Toby WI 8th
No R Sensenbrenner, James WI 9th
Wyoming
No R Thomas, Craig WY
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)as we speak, because apparently that's where the "center" is.
When Clinton-era geniuses like Penn are in the WaPo claiming- in the face of zero (if not contradictory) evidence that the American electorate is right now in the streets pleading for more prisons full of pot smokers, yeah, it's relevant to push back.
At the very least we need a unified party stance against that kind of idiocy. Hillary, to her credit, made some positive statements on the issue during last year's campaign, and of course the platform was progressive on drug war issues.
Unfortunately at the time we also had a chair of the DNC who was busy defending incarceration for marijuana use, every chance she got.
Gothmog
(145,157 posts)That is a good thing
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
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NYResister
(164 posts)and Hillary can play a big role in helping us do that. So no, we wouldn't be better off if she "went away".
Two key parts from the article
If we can flip those, if we can go deeper into where I did well, where we can get good candidates, I think flipping the House is certainly realistic. Its a goal that we can set for ourselves, she continued.
Merrill, who started Fight Back California together with Tauscher, said there is a role Clinton can play when it comes to driving turnout among Democrats and the ability to raise money for Democratic candidates.
Midterm elections are notorious for low turnout and the ability to raise money those are the two places Democrats will have trouble in the midterms, Merrill said, adding that Clinton could contribute by doing digital ads and social media outreach along with tapping into her vast Rolodex of donors.
trueblue2007
(17,215 posts)emulatorloo
(44,119 posts)She's offering strategic help and fundraising support to Democratic candidates in 2018. We need to win back the House. She can stay as long as she wants.
Welcome to DU
Me.
(35,454 posts)But boybots, doncha know, can't resist yapping away.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)new talent. Let them take all the heat and irrationality off the newcomers who can then work on honing their message. That's why it's a bad idea to throw away perfectly good Democrats. The Republicans never throw their old guard out. They're still on Fox News blaming Bill Clinton for everything under the sun.
edit: Kelly Ann Conway is from the Clinton impeachment dream team, so she is a total zombie recycle, and she is still out there lying about Democrats. We shouldn't throw out good Democrats.
Me.
(35,454 posts)The grifter instead of the givers.
And in the future, instead of speaking for all of us, please limit your 'comment' to yourself
LonePirate
(13,417 posts)emulatorloo
(44,119 posts)Every door I knocked on one the first things we were trained to ask was did anybody in the house need to get registered to vote.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Hopefully they're planning a limited role, primarily in southern states, at the moment.
What happens with the Russia investigate could change that significantly though.
oasis
(49,379 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)She'll be a dynamic force in 2018. We NEED to win back Congress. The way the Republicans are going, winning the House is a real possibility, and we should take the Senate.
As for the nay-sayers, THEY'RE the ones who should "go away."
VOTE DEMOCRATIC!
(Note to alerter: I am not targeting any one individual. Grow up.)
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Where she did great against Tr* mp, that was revulsion against Tr*mp
She remains unpopular nationally, and serves as a human GOTV machine for Republicans.
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)in the world for a record 20th time this year is viewed unfavorably by 57% of the people polled.
There's a lesson in there somewhere.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)pirateshipdude
(967 posts)Women and children's rights. Clinton's voice will always be of value.
Gothmog
(145,157 posts)She has turned over her email list to the DNC
oasis
(49,379 posts)is not about her. She has always put service to country first.
Gothmog
(145,157 posts)oasis
(49,379 posts)This is critical time in American history. Any person in a position to help the Democratic Party should do so, in any way they can, without reservation.
Gothmog
(145,157 posts)I saw that Pelosi and Schumer are working on an unified message https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029291736