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kentuck

(111,092 posts)
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 03:56 PM Jul 2017

Well, well, well...betrayal...right out in the open...no need to hide.

Last edited Mon Jul 10, 2017, 12:55 AM - Edit history (1)

Because America is made up of slobbering idiots that buy cars with sawdust in the transmissions. Well, it sounded good when we drove it off the lot.

What's the matter with you people! You don't trust the President to go behind closed doors with Vladimir Putin, for more than two hours, without any historical record and without any national security watching him? You act like he would come up with an idea to strengthen our cyber security by sharing it with Russia? Put a little sugar in the gas tank...it should run about a mile before it finally comes to a sputtering stop.

And the most shocking part of it all is that he does it in broad daylight. Because there are blathering idiots on the ready to excuse whatever the traitor might do next. We may as well give instructions to the hangman on how to make the trapdoor work a little more smoothly.

It is all so incomprehensibly stupid.

(edit: If I may paint with a broad brush?)

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Well, well, well...betrayal...right out in the open...no need to hide. (Original Post) kentuck Jul 2017 OP
Treason and nobody gives a shit TEB Jul 2017 #1
republicans will never call russian on it....they were the beneficiaries...next time, when it's dems spanone Jul 2017 #2
No they will not and I hope their is no next time TEB Jul 2017 #3
There very well might not be a next time. hedda_foil Jul 2017 #40
What did Lyin Ryan tell his fellow ReTHUGs again? malaise Jul 2017 #18
And they laughed about it. Then Ryan says, "We're family." nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #21
Anf then they denied it until the WP told them they had the audio malaise Jul 2017 #23
+1. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #24
All republicans are as guilty is the moron. pangaia Jul 2017 #4
The Guilty! Podkayne K Jul 2017 #9
Those are two separate issues malaise Jul 2017 #19
Except... Podkayne K Jul 2017 #25
Are you saying that people that did not vote for Hillary are accessories to a crime...? kentuck Jul 2017 #26
No Podkayne K Jul 2017 #33
No. PinkTiger Jul 2017 #42
I give a sh#t tiptonic Jul 2017 #8
No, treason and Republicans don't give a shit, or at least not whathehell Jul 2017 #13
Its mind bending how fast the sheeple are getting mind screwed Cosmocat Jul 2017 #43
MTHGA bora13 Jul 2017 #5
What does that mean? That's Edgar Allan Poe, right? nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #22
It is all so incomprehensibly stupid. mountain grammy Jul 2017 #6
Eltrumf probably left nuke codes with him too. And, putin didnt record meeting ? Ya right! RestoreAmerica2020 Jul 2017 #28
I wonder where Merkel put the bugs. MADem Jul 2017 #7
I hope you are right. murielm99 Jul 2017 #10
Putin: You better hope that there aren't tapes or videos. keithbvadu2 Jul 2017 #27
Combine this with last week's demand for detailed state voter info... flibbitygiblets Jul 2017 #11
How surprising it is that every conversation with a head of state isn't recorded. onlyadream Jul 2017 #12
Are you one of the "slobbering idiots"? whathehell Jul 2017 #14
Perhaps I should have prefaced? kentuck Jul 2017 #15
Yes, perhaps you should have.. whathehell Jul 2017 #16
Sorry if you were offended. kentuck Jul 2017 #17
You'd think, wouldnt you? 7962 Jul 2017 #38
He's become emboldened by Congressional Republicans' silence regarding his betrayal. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #20
Lindsey G. went on MTP and tried to temper outrage with flattery. MADem Jul 2017 #32
Question srobertss Jul 2017 #29
Maybe he did but... kentuck Jul 2017 #30
That's my point srobertss Jul 2017 #37
Xi had a crew in there, not just one little buddy and an interpreter. MADem Jul 2017 #35
I'm 50-50 on Bill Maher ... LenaBaby61 Jul 2017 #31
It takes more than Congress to amend the Constitution 7962 Jul 2017 #39
It is NOT incomprehensibly stupid. It is brilliant politics. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #34
He knows that with the GOP behind him he can do absolutely anything he wants with no consequences. Kablooie Jul 2017 #36
I can hear your frustration leaking through in the post jimlup Jul 2017 #41
I am beginning to wonder if the "subliminal suggestion" guy was right, and there is niyad Jul 2017 #44

TEB

(12,842 posts)
1. Treason and nobody gives a shit
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 04:09 PM
Jul 2017

They Can't pay attention cannot comprehend that their leader is fucking this republic for his gain. Did not come up on Fox News so we're ok , let's watch dancing with the stars. To piss on America and to shit on intelligence community and to crap on free press. the conference in Poland but he sucks up to his KGB handler putin. We decided to move on from election hack give me a mother fucking break scumbag. Sorry to rant as patriot as we all Are and this G20 just pissed me off to no end.

spanone

(135,831 posts)
2. republicans will never call russian on it....they were the beneficiaries...next time, when it's dems
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 04:11 PM
Jul 2017

they will go fucking apeshit

and blame democrats

hedda_foil

(16,373 posts)
40. There very well might not be a next time.
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 10:41 PM
Jul 2017

This is no bug. It's a feature of the United Oligarchs of America, a wholly owned subsidiary of Emperor Putin's worldwide Oligarchnya Ruskayievna.

malaise

(268,987 posts)
18. What did Lyin Ryan tell his fellow ReTHUGs again?
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 05:59 PM
Jul 2017
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html
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“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia.

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthy’s assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy.

Before the conversation, McCarthy and Ryan had emerged from separate talks at the Capitol with Ukrainian Prime Minister Vladi­mir Groysman, who had described a Kremlin tactic of financing populist politicians to undercut Eastern European democratic institutions.

malaise

(268,987 posts)
23. Anf then they denied it until the WP told them they had the audio
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 06:25 PM
Jul 2017

Then lyin' Ryan's folks said it was 'a joke'. There's collusion everywhere.

Podkayne K

(145 posts)
9. The Guilty!
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 05:03 PM
Jul 2017

All Repukes guilty? Yes, but: so too is:
Everyone eligible to vote who didn't vote for HRC--which in effect was a vote for Trump. In fact, they're even more to blame. Add them to the D-list: deplorable, detestable, and disgusting!

Podkayne K

(145 posts)
25. Except...
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 06:36 PM
Jul 2017

accessory to a crime is still a crime. When you know damn well what's about to happen and you aid and abet it, then calling it "neglecting civil duties" is cavil.

kentuck

(111,092 posts)
26. Are you saying that people that did not vote for Hillary are accessories to a crime...?
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 06:42 PM
Jul 2017

...because they should have known damn well what's about to happen and they aided and abetted by not voting ?

That's stretching it a bit, don't you think?

Podkayne K

(145 posts)
33. No
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 07:33 PM
Jul 2017

Actually it's stretching it to think they didn't know. But this will be my last reply on this.

You have your view, I mine. And I'll leave it at that.

Be well.

PK

tiptonic

(765 posts)
8. I give a sh#t
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 04:56 PM
Jul 2017

My best friend died in Viet Nam, while Comrade Benedict donald, was working on his 5 deferments. I give a Sh#t. Putins little puppet's, day will come. Hang in there my friend.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
13. No, treason and Republicans don't give a shit, or at least not
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 05:23 PM
Jul 2017

enough to act...But that's not everybody, obviously.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
43. Its mind bending how fast the sheeple are getting mind screwed
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 07:56 AM
Jul 2017

at this point ...

The "Party of Reagen" who are all nationalistic and proud of the "Shinning City on the Hill" and have spent half a century slamming democrats for being weak on national security, who chanted AMERICA FIRST at rallies for this POS:

In about a year period have enabled and now are perfectly fine with 45 completely compromising this country to Russia, and retroactively going back in time to give them the win on the Cold War AND gleefully ceded our spot at the head of the table as the leader of the free world.

Over fucking night ...

All they have is "But liberals, far left, socialism ..."

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
6. It is all so incomprehensibly stupid.
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 04:39 PM
Jul 2017

Sums it up for me. Two hours behind closed doors..no doubt he shared plenty of state secrets with his benefactors. Wonder how many lives he put in danger?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. I wonder where Merkel put the bugs.
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 04:45 PM
Jul 2017

Somewhere obvious, like the flagpoles?

Under the flower arrangements or those jazzy modern tables? Perhaps in the chair legs? Or in the ceiling?

I'm sure the Germans know every word spoken. And GOOD that they do. Hopefully that tape got over the transom to Mueller in short order.

keithbvadu2

(36,793 posts)
27. Putin: You better hope that there aren't tapes or videos.
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 06:54 PM
Jul 2017

Putin: You better hope that there aren't tapes or videos.
.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
11. Combine this with last week's demand for detailed state voter info...
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 05:16 PM
Jul 2017

...only the treasonous and the colossally stupid don't see a connection...

onlyadream

(2,166 posts)
12. How surprising it is that every conversation with a head of state isn't recorded.
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 05:22 PM
Jul 2017

I thought we had standard operating systems. Guess not.

kentuck

(111,092 posts)
17. Sorry if you were offended.
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 05:39 PM
Jul 2017

I suppose I thought some things could be taken as a "given"....especially on "democraticunderground"?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
20. He's become emboldened by Congressional Republicans' silence regarding his betrayal.
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 06:19 PM
Jul 2017

He sees they are easily bought off with a purse of gold. Anything. Anything at all he wants to do is fine, as long as there's a hefty tax cut in the end.

I wonder what the Founding Fathers would have done or advised? Was this envisioned by them?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
32. Lindsey G. went on MTP and tried to temper outrage with flattery.
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 07:29 PM
Jul 2017

It was a schizophrenic performance, frankly.

srobertss

(261 posts)
29. Question
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 07:04 PM
Jul 2017

I understand that the meeting with Putin took place without even a note taker, which is unprecedented. Does anyone know if that was the case with his meeting with Xi? I tried to look into that but didnt get anywhere. It would make for a very interesting contrast.

kentuck

(111,092 posts)
30. Maybe he did but...
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 07:15 PM
Jul 2017

Putin was the one that hacked into our electoral process. Do not lose track of the big picture.

srobertss

(261 posts)
37. That's my point
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 08:34 PM
Jul 2017

I don't think I was very clear in my question, judging from two answers to it. If Trump allowed a note taker and more Americans into his meeting with Xi, that would have made a very pointed contrast to his virtually undocumented meeting with Putin. It makes it feel like he was trying to hide something from us and this feeling would be underscored if Trump's meeting with Xi was better documented.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
31. I'm 50-50 on Bill Maher ...
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 07:18 PM
Jul 2017

But he had it just right last week when he said that he's afraid that we'll have a PERMANENT thuglican majority running this country because the thuglicans are not going to impeach their president. even if he's guilty of treason (Which he IS) until they can destroy this country AND start amending the Constution.

I keep reading where Dems are saying that they are not giving into anything negative where our voting rights are concerned. I hear them, but there is nothing normal about the situation we find ourselves in as a country which is co-opted by an evil, foreign dictator. We're NOT going to have free or fair elections in 2018 and beyond. tRumputin's feeling froggy with the bit of mental capacity he has left, so he's taking our (Dem votes) away from us right out in the open with this treasonous shit now in teaming up with his Lord and Master IE: President of the United States of American putin.

Protesting and taking to the streets could turn out people all across this country, but I read where there are laws that the GOP want passed asap where by protestors are classified as felons, and felons cannot vote. As if the GOP doesn't have ENOUGH to keep them in power with gerrymandering voter-purging and voter-crosschecking Dems off of voter rolls or erasing their votes all together--maybe they'll leave that to their buddies the ruskies in 2018 since they have as much say in the way our country runs as we Dems and GOP folks who want to fight back against turning our country into the USSR WEST.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
39. It takes more than Congress to amend the Constitution
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 10:10 PM
Jul 2017

its a tough sell regardless. How long has it been since the last amendment?

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
34. It is NOT incomprehensibly stupid. It is brilliant politics.
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 07:33 PM
Jul 2017

Create a hyper-partisan environment and you can get away with hanging witches. That's brilliant if you want to manipulate people. Stupid is shooting yourself.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
36. He knows that with the GOP behind him he can do absolutely anything he wants with no consequences.
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 07:54 PM
Jul 2017

So why not meet with Putin and plan with him how to overthrow the next election so he will win again?
It will give him years more of hearing people speak his name which is the only thing of importance to him.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
41. I can hear your frustration leaking through in the post
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 10:52 PM
Jul 2017

Take heart, their are more Americans who are not the slobbering idiots. It is just that the forces of evil have now put the slobbering idiots in control because they serve a useful purpose for the moment.

The situation will likely change as they are over reaching by more than a little. The slobbering idiots are drunk with their own power and don't have the sense to realize where the real power lies. As soon as they are no longer useful they will thrown away like yesterday's garbage. We just need to be smart and time our resistance to take advantage of the weakness which is that the idiots are not expecting the resistance to have any real bit.

We need to start with big wins in the 2018 midterms. It will be long 18 months but we can turn the tide. We get ready So that it will happen before the corporate bosses (who are the real power brokers) realize what has happened.

niyad

(113,302 posts)
44. I am beginning to wonder if the "subliminal suggestion" guy was right, and there is
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 12:51 PM
Jul 2017

something being done on all the reichwing sites, channels, whatever. because those cretins actually swallow the orange kool-ade and believe it to be thirst-quenching.

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