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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsConservatives See Shared Values With Russia!
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WTF!?
49% see Russia as friendly or an ally.
Conservatives really are stupid, aren't they!
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I'm not surprised. And yes, they are stupid.
Solly Mack
(90,763 posts)white supremacy.
It's not all Russians, of course. As evidenced by the deaths and arrests of those who speak out.
But it's enough.
Recall how anti-gay Christians went there to promote anti-gay agendas.
___"In nations such as Uganda, Russia, Nigeria and Belize, an insidious homophobia engineered in America is taking root. I have seen this hate being spread with my own eyes
Some of his assertions would have been laughable had he not been so deadly serious. He claimed that a gay clique that included Adolf Hitler was behind the Holocaust, and he insinuated that gay people fueled the Rwandan genocide.
And let's not forget Russia. In 2007, Lively traveled throughout Russia to, as he put it, bring a warning about the "homosexual political movement." He urged Russians, among other things, "to criminalize the public advocacy of homosexuality." Last year, President Vladimir Putin signed a bill into law that criminalizes distribution of "gay propaganda" to minors, including any material that "equates the social value of traditional and nontraditional sexual relations."
Later this year, the World Congress of Families an Illinois-based conservative umbrella organization will convene in Russia. As the group's leader, Larry Jenkins, put it: "We're convinced that Russia does and should play a very significant role in defense of the family and moral values worldwide. Russia has become a leader of promoting these values in the international arena."_____
It's all tied together in the conservative/right-wing ideology.
sheshe2
(83,750 posts)"Shared White Supremacy"
As for Lively...he tried to run for Governor here in MA a few years ago.
Solly Mack
(90,763 posts)one.
I was watching the MSNBC special too.
iluvtennis
(19,852 posts)Solly Mack
(90,763 posts)mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)doc03
(35,328 posts)them. They like guns. I don't get it, I don't think they have anything like the second amendment in Russia.
Can't comprehend why they like Russia or Trump. I rarely ever watch Fox but they have been praising Putin as
a great leader for a good while. I actually think Republicans would like a dictatorship as long as he is their dictator..
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,325 posts)It's Putin and his gang exploiting a wedge issue.
The republicans have been doing it for years. Now Putin is joining in.
doc03
(35,328 posts)are different races and religions in Russia but the ones we see running the country are white.
JI7
(89,248 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)He is Putin's puppet, he is being investigated for Russian connections and he has lots of corruption coming from Russian connections.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,946 posts)That much they have in common.
sheshe2
(83,750 posts)They are also dumber than dirt and love to vote against their better interests.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)Richard Engel did a good job on his "on assignment" program.
sheshe2
(83,750 posts)That is their 'shared values'.
Turbineguy
(37,322 posts)a strongman dictatorship. Or the desire for one.
dembotoz
(16,802 posts)because they were more alike than different
toddwv
(2,830 posts)Both of them have been seeking a way to bring down the USA. Seems like a good idea for enemies of the US to team up and pool their resources.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,733 posts)jimlup
(7,968 posts)milestogo
(16,829 posts)Ilsa
(61,694 posts)Guns, gays, religious persecution, authoritarianism are all things they can get mushy over.
They just don't have the mental energy or ability to suss out the 101 ways putin has attacked us.
keithbvadu2
(36,785 posts)PatrickforO
(14,571 posts)on his own brand of Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.
Or perhaps The Treason of Mr. Toad and his Toadies.
sheshe2
(83,750 posts)As they yell MORE!
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)Totally explains their healthcare proposals...
In Soviet America, wealthy get paid for healthcare.
In Soviet America, health care gets you!
Sadly it ain't a joke.
RKP5637
(67,107 posts)RKP5637
(67,107 posts)totally bring down the democracy. There is so much weird shit going on now it's not even CT. FFS, much of this country is under Fox mind control and totally stupid.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)Yeah? Then we're FOR it! #MAGA!
ancianita
(36,044 posts)they come down.
And so, maybe unwittingly, MSNBC helps the Russians win a propaganda war again, pitting our people against their own government.
I think it will depend on how the FBI and Congress roll out these indictments. How FBI intelligence and evidence is presented will affect the public's views of Russia immensely.
I'm going to call bullshit on this "shared values" crap until we find out just what the hell's been going on between our Trump/Koch/Bank racketeers and Russia's.