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Recently, I've written a few thread-starting posts about the Constitution and its limitations that prevent people from doing some things they would like to do in getting rid of PINO Trump. Things like redoing the 2016 election or recalling the President. Such suggestions ignore the Constitution, and simply can't occur.
In response, some have suggested that the only way to fix things is through some sort of citizen uprising that somehow gets the job done. Well, we've had one of those in the past, and it was what led to the creation of our Constitution, which also has ways for changing the document itself. Not easy ways, but ways.
There is not going to be a second American Revolution. It has nowhere near enough people who mistakenly thing it's a good idea to advocate for such a thing. We're all frustrated that Donald Trump got into the White House through nefarious means. Efforts are underway to investigate exactly what happened. Our PINO may not get to serve his full term. I don't know whether that will happen or not.
However, lots of people are frustrated about lots of thing. On the Right, for example, there are lots of people frustrated that this country is not a right wing Christian theocracy. Some of those people have also suggested that a revolution might be needed. People who are frustrated often propose that the whole system be thrown out and replaced with...well...replaced with something they usually can't define.
We have all the means required to remove Donald Trump from office. It's all laid out in that prophetic Constitution, which envisioned the possibility of that need long ago. He could be impeached, of course, but that may be unlikely, given the current majorities in Congress. However, next year, we get to elect one entire house of Congress, as we do every two years. We also get to elect a third of the Senate.
Then, in 2020, we get to elect a new President, as well. That is our continuing Revolution. Our Constitution gives us the right to overthrown and replace the entire government through elections. A complete replacement takes six years to happen, but we can completely replace the House of Representatives every two years. Revolutionary!
Our Constitution lets us engage in a bloodless, non-violent Revolution every two, four, and six years. What genius! So, let's engage in that Revolution, starting in 2018. We can do that. It's part of our system of government, as specified in the very document that establishes that system. Revolution is built into our system. But, nobody has to fight. Nobody has to die. We just have to vote.
I suggest that we get down to the work of a successful Constitutional Revolution, as described in that document. Revolution is part of our system, but it's not the traditional sort of Revolution. Still, it is a genuine Revolution that can take place at regular intervals.
AJT
(5,240 posts)MineralMan
(146,288 posts)Simple.
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)and assistance getting voting docs. The Democratic party needs to get behind this in a big way.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)We ALL need to help with both efforts.
AJT
(5,240 posts)Also WI has crazy safe republican districts and even if SCOTUS finds the redistricting from the last census illegal (which they won't) the need to redistrict again won't happen until 2020. I am not giving up, but it is going to be much harder to flip the house than dems think.
Power concedes nothing.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)Our job is to get them back to the polling place. If that happens, attempts to suppress the vote won't matter.
We can do it, if we really, really want to. The only question is: Do we really want to? Each of us. Do you really want to?
BzaDem
(11,142 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)We need to work at flipping districts so we can repair and improve our institution and protect our nation. Those who advocate blowing things up with reckless abandon are suspect in my opinion. Collateral damage in such ventures usually end up being the very people they claim to be rescuing.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)I hope we will recognize the need and rise to the occasion. It's way easier than fighting a civil war, I guarantee.
hurple
(1,306 posts)MineralMan
(146,288 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)It comes to every land eventually, and eventually it comes 'round again.
I dunno how close we are, but if the current GOP coup is successful, that will accelerate the nation along the course. Looming environmental disaster, rising inequality and systematic voter suppression are nudging us further toward some sort of reboot.
I'd like to think the Constitution can keep us between the ditches, but with the Legislative and Executive Branches paralyzed by corruption, and the packing of federal courts, I don't see an easy way back. A swing of the pendulum isn't going to do it, and the public seem uninterested in a major retooling of how we goven ourselves.
So I won't predict a revolution this year, but the Bad Craziness may defy prognostication.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)we will also fail to come together for your supposed revolution. Rather, it is more likely that the Right will be the revolutionaries, to our enormous detriment. They have been calling for one far longer than the left, and are far better prepared and armed.
If I were you, I'd start working hard to turn this ship of state around before it is blown up and sinks. That's my plan.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Turning the ship of state around is why we're here, though we disagree on how many degrees to port.
Yes, we are aware that the revolutionaries on the Right struck first, as they always do. We can't even get a great Democratic turn-out for an election, and they have the game rigged so that their money counts for more than their GOTV.
We need a revolution--perhaps it should be called a counterrevolution--and will get one, like it or not. Hope it's a relatively peaceful one, but They are making that increasingly impossible.
ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)As huge as a mess this is, it's a multi-factorial one without an one-stop solution. Even Trumps resignation--far more likely than removal through impeachment, but still a very remote possibility-- leaves us with Pence. Our best bet is to elect Democrats--everywhere
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)And more consistently.