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Al Franken gave Christopher Wray his seal of approval. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2017 OP
Mr. Wray is yet another individual with links to Russia. onecaliberal Jul 2017 #1
How so? MoonRiver Jul 2017 #3
His firm represents Russian oil onecaliberal Jul 2017 #4
Any firm with 800 lawyers probably has some Russian connections. n/t pnwmom Jul 2017 #35
He worked for a law firm, King & Spalding, that has Russian clients. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #5
King & Spalding have probably had every kind of client one can think of AND Clinton's campaign Hoyt Jul 2017 #23
That means a lot to me as well. Bleacher Creature Jul 2017 #2
The room was tense with the expectation Al would roast him. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2017 #10
It Seemed To Me That Sen. Franken Was Il-Prepared To Ask Questions..... global1 Jul 2017 #21
Interesting observation. He did not seem quite as... 3catwoman3 Jul 2017 #27
Big mistake! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2017 #12
There is so much we don't know... FarPoint Jul 2017 #6
More interested in what Bernie has to say. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2017 #13
That's not something that Al Franken does lightly... NurseJackie Jul 2017 #7
What Jackie Said! (nt) ProfessorGAC Jul 2017 #15
His new book is essential read/listen Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #22
I See Your Point ProfessorGAC Jul 2017 #33
Yes, I too trust Al Franken NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #40
A few of these guys seemed decent in their hearings awesomerwb1 Jul 2017 #8
I think - much to Trump's dismay - Wray is going to be independent - and a very good FBI chief. ElementaryPenguin Jul 2017 #9
Feinstein said she's voting yes too. OliverQ Jul 2017 #11
Me either! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2017 #14
I don't dislike or distrust DiFi but she is much more accommodating than Al Franken. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2017 #37
I DO have great confidence in Franken's ... Whiskeytide Jul 2017 #16
This endorsement means a great deal to me Gothmog Jul 2017 #17
If Sen. Franken approves, then I'm okay with Wray. Kaleva Jul 2017 #18
Well he's said all the right things Thrill Jul 2017 #19
I don't think wray is that stupid and risk going to jail himself as part of a conspiracy Kaleva Jul 2017 #29
As if Trump and Sessions and the fellas would nominate someone they couldn't control. DefenseLawyer Jul 2017 #20
Didn't they hire Rosenstein who hired Mueller who represents the sum of all Team Trump's fears ? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2017 #26
I assure you Sessions was not anticipating a real investigation much less having to recuse himself DefenseLawyer Jul 2017 #34
I second DemocratSinceBirth. How about Rosenstein who picked Mueller? Kaleva Jul 2017 #30
Oh Jeez, they'll be saying Trump is becoming "presidential." LMAO. Hoyt Jul 2017 #24
I hope Franken is right. He did mess up one huge thing. mucifer Jul 2017 #25
It's interesting Lotusflower70 Jul 2017 #28
Anyone ask about torture? zipplewrath Jul 2017 #31
Wray is currently explaining away his role in the torture memos. Solly Mack Jul 2017 #32
He knew what was going on. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #38
Yes, he knew. Solly Mack Jul 2017 #39
Al Franken is OK with him, and that's enough for me. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #36
I don't trust Wray. He was nominated by trump & accepted ecstatic Jul 2017 #41
I fully trust Al But bluestarone Jul 2017 #42
Think for yourselves, people. alarimer Jul 2017 #43
I like Christopher Wray as well lillypaddle Jul 2017 #44

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,922 posts)
5. He worked for a law firm, King & Spalding, that has Russian clients.
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 12:29 PM
Jul 2017

King & Spalding has 800 lawyers in 17 offices. I have not heard whether Wray actually represented or had any involvement with those clients.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
23. King & Spalding have probably had every kind of client one can think of AND Clinton's campaign
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 01:40 PM
Jul 2017

received a good bit of contributions from them. GOPers got contributions too, but not for Prez. The amounts include contributions made by individuals.

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000550&type=P&cycle=2016&sort=A&state=

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
10. The room was tense with the expectation Al would roast him.
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 12:38 PM
Jul 2017

The questioning was cordial. I respect Al's judgment .

global1

(25,285 posts)
21. It Seemed To Me That Sen. Franken Was Il-Prepared To Ask Questions.....
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 01:17 PM
Jul 2017

this is actually the first time that I've seen this in him. He almost sounded like he was filibustering his own line of questioning - stalling with complimenting other Senators. Usually he has a number of cogent questions prepared and he fires them off relatively fast in order to get the most of his questioning time. Today he didn't do that. Perhaps when meeting with Wray in a private session - he came away with all he needed to know in order to support him. Also - perhaps many of the questions he prepared were already asked. Franken is my political idol - but today he just seemed to be a bit out of sorts on unprepared.

Did anybody else get that same impression?

3catwoman3

(24,079 posts)
27. Interesting observation. He did not seem quite as...
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 01:50 PM
Jul 2017

...on point as usual -stumbled over his words a couple of times, and some thoughts seemed incomplete.

FarPoint

(12,469 posts)
6. There is so much we don't know...
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 12:30 PM
Jul 2017

It stresses me out to try and read between the lines ..I'll trust Seanator Al Franken.....

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
7. That's not something that Al Franken does lightly...
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 12:31 PM
Jul 2017

... this is not an automatic or perfunctory process for Franken. He takes these things very seriously.

That's why I admire him so much. Al Franken (D) TOTALLY ROCKS!! He's one of us!!

He makes me proud to be a DEMOCRAT and we need more DEMOCRATS (D) just like him in the Senate.

Things aren't as we'd hoped they would be, but we can TRUST Al Franken (D) to make realistic decisions that best serve the interests of our nation.

Al Franken is focused on strengthening the DEMOCRATIC Party... not attacking from within... not denigrating, and not dividing and weakening our party. Thank you Minnesota! As a nation, as a people, we are SO VERY FORTUNATE that the citizens of Minnesota elected Al Franken (D) to represent them in the Senate.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
22. His new book is essential read/listen
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 01:22 PM
Jul 2017

Inspirational, compelling, instructive in quotidian senate affairs, including winning
Respect of Sessions.....at first

ROFL in spots

He loves nailing the lying liars during testimony

That said, how can ANY of DT nominees ever be trusted?

ProfessorGAC

(65,289 posts)
33. I See Your Point
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 02:39 PM
Jul 2017

I loved "lying liars". I'll have to get the new book.

But, in this case, i'll trust Al. He was actually in the room with the guy. When he didn't think much of other nominees, he said so. Hence, i'm trusting his judgment.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
40. Yes, I too trust Al Franken
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 06:05 PM
Jul 2017

He doesn't give his support lightly. I feel better about Christopher Wray now.

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
8. A few of these guys seemed decent in their hearings
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 12:32 PM
Jul 2017

but then....

Remember Kelly? He seemed like he'd be one of the few grown ups in the room. Look at him now, paling around with Trump and Sessions and going after every undocumented in sight and going as far a saying he'd separate moms from their sons and daughters at the border.

I don't trust anyone Trump appoints.

Love Al Franken, and I hope he's right, but the Dems keep getting duped time and time again.

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
9. I think - much to Trump's dismay - Wray is going to be independent - and a very good FBI chief.
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 12:37 PM
Jul 2017

Just like with his appointment of Mueller, Rosenstein has screwed Benedict Donald again!!!


DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
37. I don't dislike or distrust DiFi but she is much more accommodating than Al Franken.
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 05:07 PM
Jul 2017

I hope Wray doesn't let Al and us down.

I expect him to follow the law. That's not asking for the moon.

Whiskeytide

(4,463 posts)
16. I DO have great confidence in Franken's ...
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 12:56 PM
Jul 2017

... ethics and sense of duty. But that doesn't mean that he can't be misled by these guys.

Wray has inside information about the investigation already. That means (1) he's willing to pledge independence because he knows Trump is toast and will be unable to retaliate, or (2) he's willing to pledge independence because he knows the investigation is going to eventually fold and end up a wet noodle, and Trump will remain prez.

I don't see much in the way of other scenarios. It's possible that Wray is simply an honorable and decent man, and is pledging independence because it is the honorable and decent thing to do. But so far I have not seen any evidence that Trump appointees, admin officials or family members - really anyone even remotely associated with the man - have much at all in the way of honor or decency, so I won't be holding my breath.

Maybe this crazy train is just making me cynical.

Thrill

(19,178 posts)
19. Well he's said all the right things
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 01:11 PM
Jul 2017

But we all know. He wouldn't have got the nomination if he didn't assure Trump he would stop the Russian investigation

Kaleva

(36,371 posts)
29. I don't think wray is that stupid and risk going to jail himself as part of a conspiracy
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 01:56 PM
Jul 2017

Besides, the FBI Director doesn't have the authority to stop Mueller and his team.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
20. As if Trump and Sessions and the fellas would nominate someone they couldn't control.
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 01:15 PM
Jul 2017

Sorry. I'm not on board.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
26. Didn't they hire Rosenstein who hired Mueller who represents the sum of all Team Trump's fears ?
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 01:45 PM
Jul 2017

Maybe they let two honest men sneak through.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
34. I assure you Sessions was not anticipating a real investigation much less having to recuse himself
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 02:47 PM
Jul 2017

when they chose Rosenstein. At this point they know exactly what is happening and where they stand. I hope I'm wrong, but I refuse to give Jeff Sessions the benefit of the doubt.

Kaleva

(36,371 posts)
30. I second DemocratSinceBirth. How about Rosenstein who picked Mueller?
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 01:59 PM
Jul 2017

And isn't Trump pissed at Sessions who recused himself.

mucifer

(23,580 posts)
25. I hope Franken is right. He did mess up one huge thing.
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 01:44 PM
Jul 2017

He believed w and Powell about going to war in Iraq. He wasn't a senator then and had less info. But, still that was awful.

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
28. It's interesting
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 01:52 PM
Jul 2017

But I trust my Senator. He must have gotten a lot out of the private meeting. I like that he readdressed Jeff Sessions. Some of the questions were already asked. I also like that he asked about what would Wray report if there were any illegal requests. He was a little rough out of the gate but I think it was because some of the questions were already raised. Amy Klobuchar asked some good questions too.

Solly Mack

(90,794 posts)
32. Wray is currently explaining away his role in the torture memos.
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 02:11 PM
Jul 2017

His (Wray) claim he didn't think it part of the criminal division's job, but Durbin saying the memo doesn't reflect that view.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/guantanamo/article154889184.html

________But a deeper dive shows that during his period as assistant attorney general in charge of the Department of Justice Criminal Division Wray was notified early about the ongoing Central Intelligence Agency investigation of abuse at Abu Ghraib. Notably, he was alerted to the suspected homicide of a captive who came to be known as the iceman because of lurid, leaked photos showing the corpse of Manadel al-Jamadi packed in ice.

A Feb. 20, 2004 memo, “Possible Violations of Federal Law,” notified Wray of the suspected homicide of Jamadi and an ongoing CIA Inspector General’s investigation of his death after his capture by a Navy Seal team in Iraq three months earlier. “I am writing to you pursuant to Title 50 U.S.C. §403q(b)(5) to report information concerning possible violations of federal criminal law,” wrote then CIA Assistant Inspector General for Investigations Mona B. Alderson.

Less than three months later, on May 5, 2004, Wray told the Senate Judiciary Committee, in response to a question from Vermont Sen. Patrick Leahy, “My principal awareness of the abuse that you are describing, that you are referring to, is through the news media, and like you and like so many others, obviously I deplore any mistreatment.”

Leahy, the committee’s senior Democrat at the time had asked Wray specifically, “What actions has the Department of Justice taken with respect to investigating and possibly prosecuting criminal conduct by American civilians at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq or at any of the other places where the administration has evidence, and the administration does have evidence, of other torture that has not been made public yet? What actions have you taken?”__________


There are more articles from that time on Wray, if you look.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
38. He knew what was going on.
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 06:02 PM
Jul 2017

Those images brought back some awful memories but it's necessary to remind people of his role.

I want to trust Franken but Wray's involvement in the torture memos isn't easy to forget or forgive.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,922 posts)
36. Al Franken is OK with him, and that's enough for me.
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 03:35 PM
Jul 2017

Al is my Senator and I trust his judgment (also, Al wrote the "Julia Child"/Dan Aykroyd skit for SNL, which is further proof that he's awesome). I know it's very tempting to reject out of hand any Trump nominee, since most of them have turned out to be some combination of unqualified, stupid and corrupt. But in this case I think what they did (after Joe Liebermann backed out, fortunately) was select someone who has solid professional credentials and a good chance to be confirmed on a bipartisan basis because, under the circumstances, they had to.

I think that because of the Comey firing blowing up in Trump's face and the Russia scandal heating up, they (and by "they" I mean people other than Trump, who probably had little to do with the selection) decided this time to avoid a controversial candidate or one who was obviously politically-connected or politically biased. But the Trump administration still has the mindset that if one of their appointees displeases him they can just fire him as if he was an employee of the criminal enterprise known as the Trump Organization.

Wray said all the right things, and I hope he means them. The hearings aren't as meaningful as the private meetings with the individual senators since they consist mostly of tendentious and sometimes irrelevant questioning intended more for the consumption of the senators' constituents so they can say later that they were really tough on the nominee because blah blah, blah; or that they really liked the nominee because blah blah blah. But Franken also met with him privately, and that's probably where he was able to make a better evaluation.

ecstatic

(32,755 posts)
41. I don't trust Wray. He was nominated by trump & accepted
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 08:22 AM
Jul 2017

Strikes 1&2.

At the hearing, Wray just said what people wanted to hear. Lindsey Graham had to ask at least 3 times about the correct response to foreign collusion. Strike 3.

Lying isn't an issue for these snakes. But I guess someone has to be confirmed. At least he's on record, under oath, making these promises.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
43. Think for yourselves, people.
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 09:06 AM
Jul 2017

You absolutely cannot "trust the judgement" of ANY elected official, automatically. Wray has been linked to torture memos and Gitmo. Besides, he's nominated by Trump, so they all need to vote "no." It is highly unlikely that he will actually be independent (for fear of being fired) when it comes to Trump team investigations. Trump should not have any of his nominees confirmed with Dem (or Independent, for that matter) help. Not that they need it. But a vote for a Trump nominee is an automatically disqualifier for higher office.

https://www.democracynow.org/2017/7/12/senate_begins_confirmation_hearings_for_trump

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