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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAl Franken gave Christopher Wray his seal of approval.
That means a lot to me and I hope he's right.
onecaliberal
(32,940 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)onecaliberal
(32,940 posts)pnwmom
(109,018 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,922 posts)King & Spalding has 800 lawyers in 17 offices. I have not heard whether Wray actually represented or had any involvement with those clients.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)received a good bit of contributions from them. GOPers got contributions too, but not for Prez. The amounts include contributions made by individuals.
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000550&type=P&cycle=2016&sort=A&state=
Bleacher Creature
(11,258 posts)I really trust his judgment and hope to hell that he's right.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)The questioning was cordial. I respect Al's judgment .
global1
(25,285 posts)this is actually the first time that I've seen this in him. He almost sounded like he was filibustering his own line of questioning - stalling with complimenting other Senators. Usually he has a number of cogent questions prepared and he fires them off relatively fast in order to get the most of his questioning time. Today he didn't do that. Perhaps when meeting with Wray in a private session - he came away with all he needed to know in order to support him. Also - perhaps many of the questions he prepared were already asked. Franken is my political idol - but today he just seemed to be a bit out of sorts on unprepared.
Did anybody else get that same impression?
3catwoman3
(24,079 posts)...on point as usual -stumbled over his words a couple of times, and some thoughts seemed incomplete.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)FarPoint
(12,469 posts)It stresses me out to try and read between the lines ..I'll trust Seanator Al Franken.....
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... this is not an automatic or perfunctory process for Franken. He takes these things very seriously.
That's why I admire him so much. Al Franken (D) TOTALLY ROCKS!! He's one of us!!
He makes me proud to be a DEMOCRAT and we need more DEMOCRATS (D) just like him in the Senate.
Things aren't as we'd hoped they would be, but we can TRUST Al Franken (D) to make realistic decisions that best serve the interests of our nation.
Al Franken is focused on strengthening the DEMOCRATIC Party... not attacking from within... not denigrating, and not dividing and weakening our party. Thank you Minnesota! As a nation, as a people, we are SO VERY FORTUNATE that the citizens of Minnesota elected Al Franken (D) to represent them in the Senate.
ProfessorGAC
(65,289 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Inspirational, compelling, instructive in quotidian senate affairs, including winning
Respect of Sessions.....at first
ROFL in spots
He loves nailing the lying liars during testimony
That said, how can ANY of DT nominees ever be trusted?
ProfessorGAC
(65,289 posts)I loved "lying liars". I'll have to get the new book.
But, in this case, i'll trust Al. He was actually in the room with the guy. When he didn't think much of other nominees, he said so. Hence, i'm trusting his judgment.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)He doesn't give his support lightly. I feel better about Christopher Wray now.
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)but then....
Remember Kelly? He seemed like he'd be one of the few grown ups in the room. Look at him now, paling around with Trump and Sessions and going after every undocumented in sight and going as far a saying he'd separate moms from their sons and daughters at the border.
I don't trust anyone Trump appoints.
Love Al Franken, and I hope he's right, but the Dems keep getting duped time and time again.
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)Just like with his appointment of Mueller, Rosenstein has screwed Benedict Donald again!!!
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)Not happy Dems are so on board with a Trump appointee.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)I hope Wray doesn't let Al and us down.
I expect him to follow the law. That's not asking for the moon.
Whiskeytide
(4,463 posts)... ethics and sense of duty. But that doesn't mean that he can't be misled by these guys.
Wray has inside information about the investigation already. That means (1) he's willing to pledge independence because he knows Trump is toast and will be unable to retaliate, or (2) he's willing to pledge independence because he knows the investigation is going to eventually fold and end up a wet noodle, and Trump will remain prez.
I don't see much in the way of other scenarios. It's possible that Wray is simply an honorable and decent man, and is pledging independence because it is the honorable and decent thing to do. But so far I have not seen any evidence that Trump appointees, admin officials or family members - really anyone even remotely associated with the man - have much at all in the way of honor or decency, so I won't be holding my breath.
Maybe this crazy train is just making me cynical.
Gothmog
(145,722 posts)I feel much better about Wray after Senator Franken's comments
Kaleva
(36,371 posts)Thrill
(19,178 posts)But we all know. He wouldn't have got the nomination if he didn't assure Trump he would stop the Russian investigation
Kaleva
(36,371 posts)Besides, the FBI Director doesn't have the authority to stop Mueller and his team.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)Sorry. I'm not on board.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Maybe they let two honest men sneak through.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)when they chose Rosenstein. At this point they know exactly what is happening and where they stand. I hope I'm wrong, but I refuse to give Jeff Sessions the benefit of the doubt.
Kaleva
(36,371 posts)And isn't Trump pissed at Sessions who recused himself.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)mucifer
(23,580 posts)He believed w and Powell about going to war in Iraq. He wasn't a senator then and had less info. But, still that was awful.
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)But I trust my Senator. He must have gotten a lot out of the private meeting. I like that he readdressed Jeff Sessions. Some of the questions were already asked. I also like that he asked about what would Wray report if there were any illegal requests. He was a little rough out of the gate but I think it was because some of the questions were already raised. Amy Klobuchar asked some good questions too.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Seem to remember he was in deep in that crap back then.
Solly Mack
(90,794 posts)His (Wray) claim he didn't think it part of the criminal division's job, but Durbin saying the memo doesn't reflect that view.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/guantanamo/article154889184.html
________But a deeper dive shows that during his period as assistant attorney general in charge of the Department of Justice Criminal Division Wray was notified early about the ongoing Central Intelligence Agency investigation of abuse at Abu Ghraib. Notably, he was alerted to the suspected homicide of a captive who came to be known as the iceman because of lurid, leaked photos showing the corpse of Manadel al-Jamadi packed in ice.
A Feb. 20, 2004 memo, Possible Violations of Federal Law, notified Wray of the suspected homicide of Jamadi and an ongoing CIA Inspector Generals investigation of his death after his capture by a Navy Seal team in Iraq three months earlier. I am writing to you pursuant to Title 50 U.S.C. §403q(b)(5) to report information concerning possible violations of federal criminal law, wrote then CIA Assistant Inspector General for Investigations Mona B. Alderson.
Less than three months later, on May 5, 2004, Wray told the Senate Judiciary Committee, in response to a question from Vermont Sen. Patrick Leahy, My principal awareness of the abuse that you are describing, that you are referring to, is through the news media, and like you and like so many others, obviously I deplore any mistreatment.
Leahy, the committees senior Democrat at the time had asked Wray specifically, What actions has the Department of Justice taken with respect to investigating and possibly prosecuting criminal conduct by American civilians at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq or at any of the other places where the administration has evidence, and the administration does have evidence, of other torture that has not been made public yet? What actions have you taken?__________
There are more articles from that time on Wray, if you look.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Those images brought back some awful memories but it's necessary to remind people of his role.
I want to trust Franken but Wray's involvement in the torture memos isn't easy to forget or forgive.
Solly Mack
(90,794 posts)And I can't forget.
Absolution will have to come from the victims. I can't do it.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,922 posts)Al is my Senator and I trust his judgment (also, Al wrote the "Julia Child"/Dan Aykroyd skit for SNL, which is further proof that he's awesome). I know it's very tempting to reject out of hand any Trump nominee, since most of them have turned out to be some combination of unqualified, stupid and corrupt. But in this case I think what they did (after Joe Liebermann backed out, fortunately) was select someone who has solid professional credentials and a good chance to be confirmed on a bipartisan basis because, under the circumstances, they had to.
I think that because of the Comey firing blowing up in Trump's face and the Russia scandal heating up, they (and by "they" I mean people other than Trump, who probably had little to do with the selection) decided this time to avoid a controversial candidate or one who was obviously politically-connected or politically biased. But the Trump administration still has the mindset that if one of their appointees displeases him they can just fire him as if he was an employee of the criminal enterprise known as the Trump Organization.
Wray said all the right things, and I hope he means them. The hearings aren't as meaningful as the private meetings with the individual senators since they consist mostly of tendentious and sometimes irrelevant questioning intended more for the consumption of the senators' constituents so they can say later that they were really tough on the nominee because blah blah, blah; or that they really liked the nominee because blah blah blah. But Franken also met with him privately, and that's probably where he was able to make a better evaluation.
ecstatic
(32,755 posts)Strikes 1&2.
At the hearing, Wray just said what people wanted to hear. Lindsey Graham had to ask at least 3 times about the correct response to foreign collusion. Strike 3.
Lying isn't an issue for these snakes. But I guess someone has to be confirmed. At least he's on record, under oath, making these promises.
bluestarone
(17,091 posts)seems like they are all the Jekyll Hyde type when getting confirmed!
alarimer
(16,245 posts)You absolutely cannot "trust the judgement" of ANY elected official, automatically. Wray has been linked to torture memos and Gitmo. Besides, he's nominated by Trump, so they all need to vote "no." It is highly unlikely that he will actually be independent (for fear of being fired) when it comes to Trump team investigations. Trump should not have any of his nominees confirmed with Dem (or Independent, for that matter) help. Not that they need it. But a vote for a Trump nominee is an automatically disqualifier for higher office.
https://www.democracynow.org/2017/7/12/senate_begins_confirmation_hearings_for_trump
lillypaddle
(9,581 posts)He will be easily confirmed.