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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 12:23 AM Jul 2017

Strange ; How Peter W Smith died

The bizarre story of Peter W. Smith, the Republican donor who attempted to extract Hillary Clinton’s missing emails from Russian hackers profiled in the Wall Street Journal last month, just got even stranger.

According to the Chicago Tribune, Smith committed suicide in the days after speaking with the Journal about his quest for Clinton’s emails.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/gop-operative-who-tried-to-get-hillarys-emails-from-russian-hackers-committed-suicide-after-talking-to-wsj/

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Strange ; How Peter W Smith died (Original Post) UCmeNdc Jul 2017 OP
Whoa! That is clearly not dying of natural causes due to old age.... Pachamama Jul 2017 #1
Doubt he had any docs sarah FAILIN Jul 2017 #2
Apparently, it is considered a way to commit "peaceful" suicide. The helium keeps the tortured soul Hoyt Jul 2017 #5
No, it's not. politicat Jul 2017 #10
Thank you for this, politicat Hekate Jul 2017 #11
And now that investigative reporter who did a story on the Russian thing died falling down stairs tblue37 Jul 2017 #8
Yes Rachel, talked about it AND had a comment from the reporter who interviewed for the May article. OnDoutside Jul 2017 #16
What is the Russian word for suicide? Sneederbunk Jul 2017 #3
"Putin must go" Hekate Jul 2017 #12
OReilly was there, just like he was for Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #4
He died from breathing in helium. It was posted on DU at 4:00 today. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #6
What is downright creepy is that...... ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2017 #7
They will need to chase down the Mayo Clinic to verify this diagnosis. OnDoutside Jul 2017 #17
The Mayo Clinic is HUGE!!!!!!!! ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2017 #20
Why is this so surprising...? regnaD kciN Jul 2017 #9
Let us not Vince Foster him.... whistler162 Jul 2017 #13
Thanks, now you started it. The RW lie in waiting as always l arthritisR_US Jul 2017 #14
Has Hillary been blamed yet? WinkyDink Jul 2017 #15
What's the nearest Pizzeria to his hotel room ? OnDoutside Jul 2017 #18
Pasquale's New York style Pizzatia ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2017 #21
Follow the trail of dead bodies Achilleaze Jul 2017 #19

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
1. Whoa! That is clearly not dying of natural causes due to old age....
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 12:35 AM
Jul 2017

Has Rachel Maddox or anyone talked about this yet? I am in Europe right now and have not seen the broadcast from last night July 13th.

But this is incredible. I think it would be even more interesting to find out more about what the documents were that he had there with him.

I sure hope Mueller's investigation has access to these....

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
2. Doubt he had any docs
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 12:39 AM
Jul 2017

Besides a suicide note. Very convenient...

Sounds like a strange way to commit suicide... a bag attached to a helium source? Very strange.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. Apparently, it is considered a way to commit "peaceful" suicide. The helium keeps the tortured soul
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 01:27 AM
Jul 2017

from feeling/reacting like they are suffocating. I looked it up and was surprised. But who knows what is real nowadays.

politicat

(9,808 posts)
10. No, it's not.
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 02:21 AM
Jul 2017

It's been the recommended method from the rational suicide movement for at least two decades. When people don't have the option of physician-assisted via medication, know that their continuing life is likely to be painful and undignified, don't want to leave a horrible mess for someone else to clean up, and don't want the risk of surviving an overdose, helium is the best option. Our brains don't have suffocation sensors for helium gas (we do for carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, and nitrogen gas) so it's definitely not a cry for help attempt method. Helium hoods will kill you dead, quickly and painlessly. Once in a while, a teenager or two will decide they want to have a couple hours of squeaky voice, buy a party tank and crawl into a tent with it. It's their last mistake.

National Suicide Prevention Hotline: 1-800-273-8255
For Deaf/Hard of hearing: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/help-yourself/for-deaf-hard-of-hearing/ (Chat line and TTY number)

Mr. Smith, for all of his conservative attitude, seems to have been a meticulous and organized person. I may disagree with his politics, but what data there is sounds like someone at end of life, wanting to be finished, clearing his conscience and organizing his affairs. (Which does not entirely eliminate the idea that a hit could have replicated it, but despite spending the last nine months in the low probability version of our universe, I'm still gonna call horses when I hear hoofbeats. And the Russians do elaborate and baroque hits, but this isn't their style. It's not baroque enough, not obscure enough, and too practical.)

tblue37

(65,343 posts)
8. And now that investigative reporter who did a story on the Russian thing died falling down stairs
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 02:04 AM
Jul 2017

because the handrail gave way. How easy it would be to tamper with a handrail to loosen it and make a fall look like an accident.

Yeah, I know--that is CT; but the fact of so many "coincidental" deaths around this case has me jumping at shadows.

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
16. Yes Rachel, talked about it AND had a comment from the reporter who interviewed for the May article.
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 06:27 AM
Jul 2017

He said he had no indication that Smith was in ill health or in a disturbed mental state (from having received bad medical news).

This is definitely one to investigate further.

BigmanPigman

(51,591 posts)
6. He died from breathing in helium. It was posted on DU at 4:00 today.
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 01:30 AM
Jul 2017

There was a complete article from the Chicago Tribune (http://www.chicagotribune.com/). I don't know how to link stuff...sorry.
It is a common method and is detailed in The Final Exit book which I have read. It seems legit to me. He bought two helium tanks to make sure it didn't fail.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,785 posts)
7. What is downright creepy is that......
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 01:56 AM
Jul 2017

I live in Rochester, Minnesota. The major hotel near the Mayo Clinic is the Khaler Grand, used mostly by Mayo Clinic visitors that Peter Smith died in. That is 3 miles from my house.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,785 posts)
20. The Mayo Clinic is HUGE!!!!!!!!
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 02:18 PM
Jul 2017


I have been a patient of Opthalmology since Christmas of 1982. The entire complex is the 2nd largest in the country next to Johns Hopkins with 2 satellites in Arizona and Florida.

arthritisR_US

(7,288 posts)
14. Thanks, now you started it. The RW lie in waiting as always l
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 04:06 AM
Jul 2017

Now I need to vomit because Hannity willl inject this into his icy veins

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
19. Follow the trail of dead bodies
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 06:33 AM
Jul 2017

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