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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 12:52 PM Jul 2017

RT going with the spin that the scandal is actually Democrats colluding with Ukraine.

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/396327-russia-ukraine-trump-clinton/

Nevertheless, the current hysteria surrounding his meeting a small-time Russian lawyer is beyond any bounds of reason.

(Oh yes. A small-time lawyer lobbying to lift international sanctions. As small-time lawyers do.)

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Natalia Veselnitskaya was almost certainly not representing the Kremlin when she courted baby Trump. Rather she was lobbying on behalf of a client, mixed up in the Sergei Magnitsky case. To that end, the ex-UK tabloid hack Robert Goldstone exaggerated her usefulness to attract Donald Jr.’s attention. By Trump's own account, he quickly sussed this distorted pretext and pulled back. Plus, it’s worth mentioning how she’s also engaged plenty of Democrats as part of her campaign.

(Except that DT Jr. only agreed to that meeting because he thought that the russian government would provide him with dirt on HRC...)

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As Politico reported in January: “Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. ...
Now, this is pretty explosive stuff. A credible American news organization is reporting how a foreign government directly interfered in the US election.

(1. Politico had a very strong anti-Clinton stance during the election. 2. Weird how Politico is credible when it comes to Clinton-bashing, but "Fake News" when it comes to Trump-bashing.)

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in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort, and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation. The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia.”

(Digging up dirt on a campaign-member is the same as digging up dirt on a presidential candidate. Got it.)

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“Politico’s investigation found evidence of Ukrainian government involvement in the race that appears to strain diplomatic protocol dictating that governments refrain from engaging in one another’s elections.”

(Here's what RT is NOT quoting from the Politico-article: "But they were far less concerted or centrally directed than Russia’s alleged hacking and dissemination of Democratic emails. ... There’s little evidence of such a top-down effort by Ukraine.&quot

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Thus, If the issue is collusion, it’s obvious there was much greater connivance concerning Ukraine and the Democrats than a single exchange involving Donald Jr. and an insignificant lawyer. One where no information was actually provided.

(1. An insignificant lawyer... 2. Whether information was provided is unknown. 3. Whether information was provided is irrelevant: By agreeing to the meeting, DT Jr. actively tried to collude with a foreign government.)

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The fact remains there is no evidence of a direct Kremlin campaign to undermine America’s election. The media has almost totally ignored Kiev’s transparent meddling to chase Russian ghosts. All the while downplaying US manipulation of the political process throughout the former Soviet Union.

(Nothing-burger! Why aren't you reporting something else? Let's change topics!)
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