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by Rachel Stockman | 1:22 pm, July 14th, 2017
Youve heard the word bombshell tossed around throughout the news surrounding the Russia probe, but a new report in the Associated Press is certain to raise even more eyebrows. Reporters for the outlet tracked down Rinat Akmestshin, a Russian American lobbyist who reportedly once was a Russian spy (he denies it). He confirmed his participation in the June 2016 meeting with Donald Trump, Jr., Jared Kushner, Paul Manafort and Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya. But, heres the shocking part. He told them that the Russian attorney actually did bring with her a plastic folder with printed-out documents detailing illicit funds allegedly being funneled to the DNC.
Heres the bombshell that was actually buried pretty far down in the AP article:
<< During the meeting, Akhmetshin said Veselnitskaya brought with her a plastic folder with printed-out documents that detailed what she believed was the flow of illicit funds to the Democratic National Committee. Veselnitskaya presented the contents of the documents to the Trump associates and suggested that making the information public could help the Trump campaign, he said.
Akhmetshin said he does not know if Veselnitskayas documents were provided by the Russian government. He said he thinks she left the materials with the Trump associates. It was unclear if she handed the documents to anyone in the room or simply left them behind, he said. >>
Earlier this week, Donald Trump Jr. said he never received anything of substance from the Russian lawyer. He claims she provided no supporting information about the claims.
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http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/bombshell-new-report-claims-russian-lawyer-actually-did-bring-clinton-dirt-docs-to-trump-jr-meeting/
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)opens their mouth, EVERY SINGLE TIME, they are lying.
Got it.
Obama , zero lies
Hillary, lied once about being under fire in helicopter, other than that, zero.
I am losing patience.
LisaM
(27,808 posts)Even the military people involved admitted that's a very common thing.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Clinton Obama combined, one statement not entirely true
Trump and team, 3,987 untrue statements in 2017 alone.
I have lost all patience with all people who support him. I consider them enemies of America, traitors.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Bosnia.
She exaggerated the conditions on the ground, and to date she and Obama combined are guilty of one exaggeration as compared to republicans who lie all day, everyday.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)If you like your health care plan, you can keep it.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/dec/12/lie-year-if-you-like-your-health-care-plan-keep-it/
'Purity' annoys the hell out of me.
Remember how you can tell a politician is lying?
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I've never seen such twisted shit. And they blatantly lie all day long. Crazy.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Exactly!
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)And given what we know what really happened...I think we should leave Hillary alone...clearly there was a Russian disinformation effort, collusion with the Russian and some fell for it...some who should have been on our side were tricked (those who vote for Stein etc.).
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)comment of hers that could be remotely construed as such.
As opposed to tens of thousands from trump and friends.
I dont think there is a bigger HRC supporter on this site, so excuse me if I came off otherwise.
MiddleClass
(888 posts)False equivalency. I think it's called.
Hillary and Brian Williams, overly exaggerated a helicopter story that actually happened.
Is equal to 20 lies before lunch. It's equivalent, it's decided, they're both equal.
Everyone understands exactly what you're saying, they're just trying to be intellectually honest
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)awesomerwb1
(4,267 posts)this: "actually did bring with her a plastic folder with printed-out documents detailing illicit funds allegedly being funneled to the DNC."
It also strengthens the collusion part. Adoptions, suuuuure.
Is it possible the DNC (pennyless when Clinton won nomination according to, was it Hillary herself?), so is it possible for anyone to take foreign money indirectly like that?
AJT
(5,240 posts)support the allegations so they didn't use them.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Piss off Sanders supporters etc and ran with it- because hey already had distro network set up. They wanted to be able to make it look like the swing states cared about emails. They did not.
MiddleClass
(888 posts)I hope Cornell West feels stupid.
I hope Nina Turner feels stupid, no wait, she is stupid, lacking in all self-awareness.
Like Cheeto. She can't feel stupid.
It's like getting a dog all riled up over a ball, and even throwing it in front of a train
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)Below are the actual quotes from the linked Lawnewz.com Article. (Too bad the DU tabs aren't working so I can't highlight it therefore I'm posting it as is. While this may not be the usual "Rightwing Talking Points" and worthy of an Abuse Alert, it is still not an accurate statement of what the OP is claiming. Enough with the complicity of more Hillary Bashing. The article did not confirm what the OP's claim.
...This could be a good issue to expose how the DNC is accepting bad money, Akhmetshin recalled her saying.
Trump Jr. asked the attorney if she had all the evidence to back up her claims, including whether she could demonstrate the flow of the money. But Veselnitskaya said the Trump campaign would need to research it more. After that, Trump Jr. lost interest, according to Akhmetshin. ..."
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/bombshell-new-report-claims-russian-lawyer-actually-did-bring-clinton-dirt-docs-to-trump-jr-meeting/
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I bet they also talked about what they could help do w voter roll info, etc. and they tried to get a pledge to eliminate sanctions for it. That they didn't have really damning info doesn't matter- Trump hoped for it and has been keeping his promises. He became subject to black mail was then on the hook.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)Sounds like the Russians gave information that Trump couldn't use.
Raster
(20,998 posts)...splashing it all over Fox and the Enquirer. No time at all.
Miss Russia Lawyer Thing may have brought a folder with her containing tRumped* up DNC info, but I think her main purpose was to solicit tRump* aid in relieving the sanctions against Russia.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)you and I agree ....so sick of Trump.
Raster
(20,998 posts)...I only hope we don't run out of rope before they run out of time.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)"OK, so the Russian lady, whoever she was, left a folder with loads of dirt on Clinton, but we never touched that folder because we would never stoop to that sort of thing! Also, it was Obama's fault."
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)Plus: Is Akhmetshin blabbing freely, sending another message to Donnie from Pootie, "You better deliver on our deal"?
shit's getting real...
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Don't we?
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)I'm just so freaked out right now, my head is spinning trying to process all the in-coming.
It's so mind-blowing, I've got to take deep breaths!
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Meanwhile they're upset someone in the Ukraine uncovered payments from Russia to Manafort.
They are trying to spin uncovering their crimes as crimes. This from the assholes who encouraged illegal leaks.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)They really are masters of BS. The Trumps are just natural born liars, but they are being advised my expert propagandists. I'll bet Bannon has studied everything Geobbels ever said or wrote about the subject. Probably has posters of him in his office and bedroom.
emulatorloo
(44,120 posts)I"m not fooled. I doubt Mueller is fooled. These folks are liars
brooklynite
(94,520 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)leftstreet
(36,107 posts)If they had no fears of exposure pulling this off, why keep Trump away?
I won't be surprised if we hear Trump 'poked his head into the room for a second'
or something like that
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)were true, because he seems to use the Paulie method from goodfellas- no paper trail, nothing direct if he can help it. When did they start doing the 24 livestream of the TT lobby? Immediately after the election? I bet that will turn up info too.
retread
(3,762 posts)Obama wore a tiara
and Michelle showed her toned arms?
Colluding with a hostile foreign government to steal an election? Nary a peep.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)Dirt or no dirt?
Does he want the story to disappear or to be the story of the year?
MedusaX
(1,129 posts)To make sure to create a trail of seemingly legitimate campaign funds, that can later be proven unlawful, for both candidates/parties....
That way no matter which way it goes you still have leverage in place....
So every one huddles up at Trump Tower
& lawyer chick whips out the sample document showing where one of Vlad's Oligarch pals has utilized a legit looking shell company...
that can be traced back to a foreign entity ...
to make various campaign contributions to the opposing party/candidates ...
And then she says
there is more where that came from...
If you want access
here's what the terms of the deal are going to be.....
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)And then they stated their price to dump it on Wikileaks is my best guess, and Trump paid the price by agreeing to collude on sanctions.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)He would have known exactly who had that "plastic folder" when he left. I think we are going to see a lot of misdirection.
emulatorloo
(44,120 posts)Misdirection and a chance to lie about Democrats.
However this is not good news for Don Jr.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)To their pods.
kacekwl
(7,016 posts)And trump Jr. left them behind. Right.
thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)He didn't realize he was supposed to take that folder that was left behind on the desk.
kentuck
(111,089 posts)...and Don Jr had said they wanted them later in the summer.
Right on time, the Wikileaks emails came out in the final weeks of the election.
That was what was offered in that meeting, in my opinion.
They took the offer and said they would lift sanctions asap.
We ALL know this.
spanone
(135,830 posts)Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)And ...
They didn't use it.
THAT is believable?
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)One thing Americans can be certain of, if the republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief has access to poo, he will fling it. Automatically. Lowly. Disgustingly.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)But, to their kids, this will be proof.
spanone
(135,830 posts)how many lies have been told this week....Jesus wept