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applegrove

(118,636 posts)
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 08:56 PM Jul 2017

If Republicans Love Their Country, When Will They Show It?

by Andrew Sullivan at New York Magazine

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/if-republicans-love-their-country-when-will-they-show-it.html

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The standard for impeachment, the commission of “high crimes and misdemeanors,” is not concerned with criminal offenses found in the penal statute books and suitable for courtroom prosecution. It relates instead to the president’s high fiduciary duty to the American people and allegiance to our system of government. Alexander Hamilton put it best in Federalist No. 65. Impeachable offenses are those “Which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or in other words from the abuse or violation of some public trust. They are of a nature which may with peculiar propriety be denominated political, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself.”

The bickering over collusion ‘crimes’ misses the point. If an unfit person holds the presidency, the danger to our society is that he will abuse the power that he wields. The imperative is to remove him from office.

No crime need be committed. The question is whether we can trust this president to put the interests of the U.S. before himself or a foreign enemy — or some horribly compromised combination of the last two. If there is any doubt about this, the doubt has to be removed. That is what impeachment was invented for. It is to remove an unfit person who has proven himself willing and able to abuse the power entrusted to him.

And so we begin to get the answer to a particularly pointed question: How much do Republicans actually love their country? And when exactly will they prove it?


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If Republicans Love Their Country, When Will They Show It? (Original Post) applegrove Jul 2017 OP
They love money and power Iliyah Jul 2017 #1
In 2018? ProudLib72 Jul 2017 #2
Don't hold your breath. Golden Raisin Jul 2017 #3
The 12th of Never.... n/m bagelsforbreakfast Jul 2017 #4
When will the party that's willing and able to abuse the power entrusted to them impeach? icymist Jul 2017 #5
They will show it when Rupert Murdoch tells them to GeoWilliam750 Jul 2017 #6
It's in their flag pins lame54 Jul 2017 #7
To them, the Founding Fathers vision didn't include people of color oasis Jul 2017 #8

icymist

(15,888 posts)
5. When will the party that's willing and able to abuse the power entrusted to them impeach?
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:20 PM
Jul 2017

They only do that to the other party.

oasis

(49,379 posts)
8. To them, the Founding Fathers vision didn't include people of color
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:44 PM
Jul 2017

participation in the lawmaking process. During modern times, racist, right wingers were forced to tolerate racial integration and the right to vote for non-whites (within reason).

Presently, in the view of the rich and powerful, the whole democracy/equality thing has gotten so far out of hand, they believe it's better to align with a nation ruled by a likeminded leader (Putin).The Cold War slogan "better dead than red" no longer applies because conservatives in today's America are cut from the same cloth as the Russian leadership.

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