Was there a "big bang" agreement that led to the Trump - Russia scandal?

[kentuck]

In other words, was there an agreement between Trump and Putin that has led to all the secret meetings between Flynn, Sessions, Kushner, Manafort, Don Jr, and untold others?

Have all these "meetings" grown from that one agreement?

What do you think the agreement was about?

[wishstar]

1. Yes, a deal about substantial money payoff as Steele dossier explains

Brokered by Manafort who received huge payout for helping pro-Russian interests in Ukraine and would get a cut if he could recruit Trump to provide ironclad promise to advance Russian interests and lifting of sanctions.

Kushner, whose family real estate business has been drowning in debt was hoping to work out his own side deal with big loan as reward for his assistance in getting sanctions lifted and Flynn was also expecting additional Russian payments..

[MedusaX]

2. Creating a Russo-American alliance that would share all national resources

This alliance would maintain the appearance of 2 separate *democracies* but would in reality be a single oligarchy under Putin's control.

The democratic facade would be perpetuated but there would be no threat to putin's maintaining of control/power thanks to election outcome modification practices....

Kushner or Ivanka would be the next *elected* leader... and
conveniently the Constitution would be reworked by the kgop Governors at a Convention ...,
And of course Presidential term limits would be removed...
and nepotism would be the new norm
& so on....,,

This would be like the
ULTIMATE PRINCESS UNICORN PEGASUS gift for daddy to bestow upon the Czarina...

Look everybody... my daddy bought me a country...

[Eliot Rosewater]

3. Not sure if russian tanks and troops will come here, they may not need that, but

all land owners here who are not part of the oligarchy will have their land taken, even if it is just the parcel your house sits on.

[MedusaX]

7. True. I believe the plan was for US to pay for new ships etc to be shared for use by Russo-America..

*45 is not savvy enough to realize that, despite whatever details Vlad eluded to, the end goal for Vlad is the expansion of his Russian *empire* so that a new source of wealth can be tapped into and siphoned off accordingly.

The modern day US is to Russia
what New Spain was to Spain....

a plentiful, albeit non-renewable, source of income & natural resources
to be exploited for the benefit of the motherland's elite.

If all went according to plan...
the US citizens would simply believe that Russia & USA were BFF's and
that democracy was alive and well...
thanks to FauxGnus & RT & twitter trolls & seemingly legit elections....

And that any revision/tightness of civil liberties was for our own safety from big bad terrorists...
And random events would support this as a legitimate concern...
reported by fauxgnus & RT... of course.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

4. I think it happened right after November 2013......

....if not earlier.

[MiddleClass]

5. I think the agreement was give the Russian oligarchs their money back

Let Vladimir have his corruption money invested in America back so he can control the oligarchs.

William Bower explained it all on CNN in the video, repeal Maginski act, It's what made it legal for the government to confiscate personal money in American banks. Russian oligarchs could not pay their bills in the South of France, because America confiscated their blood money. It's all over this site.

Remember folks, the ruble collapsed a few years ago, the euro is on shaky ground because of Greece, the pound is not accepted everywhere, the yen collapsed a few years ago, so the dollar is still the international currency of choice. Which also means American banks are the the choice of doing business, because of it. Remember, as they say, the currency valuation, after the financial crisis we are the cleanest dirty shirt in the laundry

[Laura PourMeADrink]

6. Yes, What's the quid pro quo. We've just got pieces now

Only know some of the possibilities at this point...

Russians get ?
1. Language out of the platform on deadly force if they invade Ukraine (fact)
2. A president in their back pocket

Trump gets/got ?
1. Dirt on Hillary
2. Silence on his Russian business dealings
3. Trump's involvement in money laundering case hidden

[mopinko]

8. the magniski act was just a dangle. the real meat was the sanctions

that stopped the rosneft deal.
that is why we got old tilly.

and cheato got the crown.