McConnell calls for vote to straight-up repeal ACA in 2 days.

[RandySF]

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on Monday night called for a vote on a bill to repeal Obamacare without an immediate replacement after the latest Republican effort to overhaul the U.S. health-care system failed.

"Regretfully, it's now apparent that the effort to repeal and immediately replace the failure of Obamacare will not be successful," McConnell said in a statement. "So, in the coming days, the Senate will vote to take up the House bill with the first amendment in order being what a majority of the Senate has already supported in 2015 and that was vetoed by then-President Obama: a repeal of Obamacare with a two-year delay to provide for a stable transition period to a patient-centered health care system that gives Americans access to quality, affordable care."

It came as President Donald Trump urged Republican lawmakers to repeal Obamacare first, and then come up with a solution for replacing it.


http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/17/president-donald-trump-calls-for-lawmakers-to-repeal-failing-obamacare-now-without-replacement-plan.html

[Matthew28]

1. Lets kill more people

and cause more suffering. To hell without our healthcare system! Lets just destroy healthcare in this country.

[bearsfootball516]

2. Um

Wouldn't they need 60 votes for that?

[Demsrule86]

5. No, but the moderates won't vote for it...

Also, I think when the anger wears off ...there won't be a vote because it is bad for midterms to make people walk the plank for nothing.

[Demsrule86]

3. It won't go through.

He doesn't have the votes.

[W_HAMILTON]

4. Why can't that be filibustered? n/t

n/t

[SHRED]

6. Party suicide

[onecaliberal]

7. I hate that mother fucker with the intensity of ten thousand red hot suns.

[Marie Marie]

10. I second that.

[atreides1]

11. Me too

But I hate the mother fuckers in Kentucky, who voted for him, even more!!!

[onecaliberal]

20. co-sign

[Freethinker65]

8. Republican Wealthcare (tax cut for the wealthy and what is behind door number 3 for everyone else)

[GP6971]

9. He's just appealing to Dolt45's base

An empty gesture.....it's not going to happen.

[Hieronymus]

12. McConnell's a sick bastard.

[dflprincess]

13. A two year delay

So the worst of it doesn't kick in until after the midterms.

[SharonClark]

17. Yep, that's his plan

[C_U_L8R]

14. Scorched earth

The GOP, out of ideas and without a clue, would rather blow it all up than fix it. So childish.

[msongs]

15. perhaps the celebration on DU was premature nt

[Rollo]

16. So, the GOP has had nearly eight years to come up with something better than the ACA...

...and they still can't do it?

What a pathetic bunch of money grubbing losers.



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[Hoyt]

18. While I'm glad all the GOPer plans have been defeated, straight repeal of ACA may be even worse.

All the previous calls for repeal allowed the ACA to continue for a few years. But that will still mean people, patients, and even insurance companies will lose all confidence. And unless we take back both houses and Presidency there is no guarantee anything will be enacted before it ends in 2 years or so.

I just can't see leaving people with serious illnesses worrying for a few years whether they will have access to care in 2020, maybe earlier.

[Xolodno]

19. It will be a vote to repeal, but with a caveat.

The repeal will take effect once they have a replacement. Boom. They've repealed Obamacare...while not doing so.

Conservative fruitcakes can go back and say "we won!".

Moderates can go back and say "we won"

[spanone]

21. how many votes do they need for that?

[RandySF]

25. 49 + Pence

McCain won't be there.

[pnwmom]

27. But they would need 50 + Pence under reconciliation, and with McCain out they won't have it.

And if the bill cannot be passed under reconciliation then they'll need 60 votes to bypass a filibuster.


http://www.newsweek.com/how-hard-repeal-obamacare-433590

Since reconciliation bills cannot be filibustered, any Obamacare repeal bill done using reconciliation wouldn’t need a 60-vote majority to proceed. And debate on a reconciliation bill is limited to 20 hours. For a frustrated Senate that doesn’t have a 60-plus vote filibuster-proof majority, it’s the most potent legislative shortcut imaginable.

But there’s a vital catch: ***any item in a reconciliation bill must have a measurable, direct impact on federal spending, up or down.***

The individual who decides what legislative items do and do not conform to this rule is the Senate parliamentarian—the individual tasked with advising Senate leaders on the interpretation of Senate rules. Appointed by the Senate majority leader whenever the prior parliamentarian steps down, a former Senate librarian clerk named Elizabeth MacDonough currently holds the position.

A full ACA repeal bill would be deemed noncompliant by MacDonough and set aside because so many of its individual provisions do not have a significant budget impact. In a process known as the “Byrd bath,” Senators can challenge any entire bill, section, subsection, paragraph, sentence or word as “out of order,” meaning there is no significant budget impact. Items eliminated by the parliamentarian—called “Byrd droppings”—are removed from the bill.

[RandySF]

28. Correction: Huffpost says 60 votes.

[pnwmom]

30. Good! So McConnell can have his vote and they can watch it sink like a rock. n/t

[RandySF]

29. Correction: Huffpost says 60 votes.

[Caliman73]

22. It won't happen.

Repealing the ACA, even with a 2 year window, will send the market into free fall. One thing markets need to function is a level of certainty. The Republicans have had over 6 years to come up with a replacement for the ACA and what have they produced? Two flaming piles of crap. 2 more years during which time they are going to have to run for re-election, tackle trade issues, deal with taxes, deal with infrastructure, etc... will do nothing for them. What will insurance providers do knowing that their operating models have a two year shelf life. What will hospitals do? Doctors? Medical equipment providers? It will be chaos and the markets hate chaos.

[underthematrix]

33. Yep it will send markets, state helth care systems and small businesses into a tailspin

[dalton99a]

23. Why do the wicked live so long?

[smirkymonkey]

32. Exactly what I was thinking.

This guy can't take a dirt nap soon enough for me.

[Hekate]

24. They will get not one Democratic vote, same as in the House...

...thanks to our Democratic leadership.

[pnwmom]

31. Thanks to Pelosi and Schumer! n/t

[Doodley]

26. CBO already said 32 million would lose healthcare, and premiums would skyrocket with the uncertainty