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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts) Tue Jul 18, 2017, 02:31 PM Jul 2017

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BREAKING CNN: Mueller to allow Manafort and Jr. To testify in public

Not much else atm but I think this refers to testifying before Congress.

Update: link:

Link to tweet

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BREAKING CNN: Mueller to allow Manafort and Jr. To testify in public (Original Post) berni_mccoy Jul 2017 OP

And the best goes on SHRED Jul 2017 #1

Those keys are right next each other. n/t rzemanfl Jul 2017 #12

I don't think Mueller has the authority to allow or not allow it without other measures in place. NCTraveler Jul 2017 #2

I think they have deferred to him Johnny2X2X Jul 2017 #6

I can understand them asking for his input. NCTraveler Jul 2017 #8

if one had turned Johnny2X2X Jul 2017 #10

Neither will tell the truth under oath given they dont have to, daddy pardons them either way. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #3

We would probably see the 5th Amendment... kentuck Jul 2017 #5

Yep they will be hostile and uncooperative berni_mccoy Jul 2017 #11

It's questionable if Trump can pardon someone in jeopardy berni_mccoy Jul 2017 #7

I would like to know for sure, because we all know he will pardon everybody, he will Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #9

Is it possible to pardon someone who has not been yet convicted? kentuck Jul 2017 #13

Nixon was pardoned by Ford Kaleva Jul 2017 #15

Bush senior pardoned Casper Weinberger WoonTars Jul 2017 #18

Lincoln pardoned everyone after the Civil War. berni_mccoy Jul 2017 #19

A pardon would be an admission of guilt Kaleva Jul 2017 #14

Get a big bag of popcorn for that show! kentuck Jul 2017 #4

junior will do himself no favors....and manafort is slicker than goose shit. spanone Jul 2017 #16

Correct Me. Jul 2017 #17

SHRED

(28,136 posts)

1. And the best goes on

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 02:32 PM

Jul 2017

Lock them up!

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)

12. Those keys are right next each other. n/t

Reply to SHRED (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 03:03 PM

Jul 2017

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)

2. I don't think Mueller has the authority to allow or not allow it without other measures in place.

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 02:34 PM

Jul 2017

I don't see how he wouldn't want it.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)

6. I think they have deferred to him

Reply to NCTraveler (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 02:38 PM

Jul 2017

He will let them testify, this can only help his investigation as he can get them on record lying.

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)

8. I can understand them asking for his input.

Reply to Johnny2X2X (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 02:39 PM

Jul 2017

Not much past that. I can think of no reason Mueller wouldn't want them to.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)

10. if one had turned

Reply to NCTraveler (Reply #8)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 02:44 PM

Jul 2017

If Mueller had turned one of them and wanted to protect them would be a reason. Or if they'd recently interviewed someone and wanted to fact check what they said. There could be a ll kinds of reasons, but I agree that it would usually benefit Mueller to get guys on record before Congress.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)

3. Neither will tell the truth under oath given they dont have to, daddy pardons them either way.

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 02:35 PM

Jul 2017

WE could have avoided ALL of this but we didnt.

I cant type the words explaining HOW we could have or WHAT we have to do in 2018 without being banned.

kentuck

(111,094 posts)

5. We would probably see the 5th Amendment...

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 02:37 PM

Jul 2017

taken by both witnesses.

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)

11. Yep they will be hostile and uncooperative

Reply to kentuck (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 02:54 PM

Jul 2017

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)

7. It's questionable if Trump can pardon someone in jeopardy

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 02:38 PM

Jul 2017

Of conspiracy for treason whe he himself is involved in it.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)

9. I would like to know for sure, because we all know he will pardon everybody, he will

Reply to berni_mccoy (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 02:40 PM

Jul 2017

steal from us right in front of our faces, etc.

His son can be shown to have committed treason, and he will pardon him the same day and HALF of the VOTERS will support that pardon.

kentuck

(111,094 posts)

13. Is it possible to pardon someone who has not been yet convicted?

Reply to berni_mccoy (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 03:06 PM

Jul 2017

How can you pardon someone that has not been found guilty in a court of law??

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)

15. Nixon was pardoned by Ford

Reply to kentuck (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 03:21 PM

Jul 2017

WoonTars

(694 posts)

18. Bush senior pardoned Casper Weinberger

Reply to kentuck (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 03:27 PM

Jul 2017

...he hadn't been found guilty of anything...

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)

19. Lincoln pardoned everyone after the Civil War.

Reply to kentuck (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 04:20 PM

Jul 2017

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)

14. A pardon would be an admission of guilt

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 03:15 PM

Jul 2017

Trump would be telling the world that yes indeed members of his campaign did conspire with the Russians.

kentuck

(111,094 posts)

4. Get a big bag of popcorn for that show!

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 02:36 PM

Jul 2017

Will be very, very interesting.

spanone

(135,831 posts)

16. junior will do himself no favors....and manafort is slicker than goose shit.

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 03:23 PM

Jul 2017

two people who genuinely give me the creeps

bet they take the fifth

Me.

(35,454 posts)

17. Correct

Reply to spanone (Reply #16)

Tue Jul 18, 2017, 03:25 PM

Jul 2017

He's not smart or quick enough to handle this. I predict resentment and whining.

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