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Gupta says the kind of brain cancer that McCain has is similar to what Kennedy and Beau Biden had (Original Post) sunonmars Jul 2017 OP
'Despite maximum treatment, the cancer usually recurs. elleng Jul 2017 #1
and the older you are, the less treatable it is sunonmars Jul 2017 #3
He is same age Ted Kennedy was diagnosed. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2017 #17
Early treatment can buy a year or so, if you're lucky Warpy Jul 2017 #4
"Doesn't look like a bad way to go" cwydro Jul 2017 #12
I watched my father go from it. It's horrific. NutmegYankee Jul 2017 #13
A neighbor's son had the same thing ...... Botany Jul 2017 #2
Surviving the Treatments is another challenge. Wellstone ruled Jul 2017 #5
Ugh, another case of the cure is worse than the disease... Rollo Jul 2017 #6
Was there when my BIL pulled the Chemo tubes Wellstone ruled Jul 2017 #8
They can't radiate the same area again, Ms. Toad Jul 2017 #10
"Surviving the Treatments" dixiegrrrrl Jul 2017 #18
Wondered about the stats. Wellstone ruled Jul 2017 #19
What did (does)Jimmy Carter have? nt marybourg Jul 2017 #7
He said he had melanoma that had spread to his liver and brain Rhiannon12866 Jul 2017 #11
Thanks marybourg Jul 2017 #14
Didn't Kennedy return for a while? pnwmom Jul 2017 #9
Yes Ted Kennedy itcfish Jul 2017 #15
Friend's husband had this cancer; it doesn't fuck around. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2017 #16

elleng

(131,226 posts)
1. 'Despite maximum treatment, the cancer usually recurs.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 12:17 AM
Jul 2017

The most common length of survival following diagnosis is 12 to 15 months with less than 3% to 5% of people surviving longer than five years.[2][3] Without treatment survival is typically 3 months.[9] It is the most common cancer that begins within the brain and the second most common brain tumor after meningioma.[5][10] About 3 per 100,000 people develop the disease a year.[3] It most often begins around 64 years of age and occurs more commonly in males than females.[2][3] Immunotherapy is being studied in glioblastoma with promising results.'>>>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glioblastoma

I forgot about Beau Biden.

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
3. and the older you are, the less treatable it is
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 12:19 AM
Jul 2017

Glioblastoma at his age is less than 25% survival rate of 7.5 months. Sad really.

I would say retire and spend time with your family. you have done your service.

Warpy

(111,384 posts)
4. Early treatment can buy a year or so, if you're lucky
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 12:24 AM
Jul 2017

but yes, it generally does recur. I've seen people last from two weeks to two years, but not longer.

The end doesn't look like a bad way to go, people drifting first into coma and then out.



NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
13. I watched my father go from it. It's horrific.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 05:54 AM
Jul 2017

There's a reason that woman in Oregon committed suicide rather than let the disease take its course.

Botany

(70,616 posts)
2. A neighbor's son had the same thing ......
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 12:19 AM
Jul 2017

.... 3 tours in Iraq. It reaches into the brian like hundreds of different fingers.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. Surviving the Treatments is another challenge.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 12:51 AM
Jul 2017

Radiation is nasty,and again,if he had Radiation for his Skin Cancer,believe that determines the dosage and the number of treatments.

Just the after effects are nasty. SIL had this stuff. Two years ago the June 30th. 9 cm mass,after her radiation treatments she was giving less than 6 weeks. With all the Chemo she had with Breast Cancer and the radiation for the tumor,she passed after 31 days. No Pain,the Radiation deadened her nervous system which was a true blessing.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
6. Ugh, another case of the cure is worse than the disease...
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 12:55 AM
Jul 2017

After all, she could have had palliative pain relief (opiates) instead.

I once when mountain biking with a friend of a friend who was dying of brain cancer. He had to be the most gentle and considerate person I've run across. He seemed to have accepted his fate with grace and class. I hope when I go, I can be a little bit like him.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. Was there when my BIL pulled the Chemo tubes
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 01:32 AM
Jul 2017

out of his arm and said,take me home,enough of this shit. This was after he was in remission for two years and the Cancer came back with a vengeance.

SIL had zero pain in her last couple of months,the Brain Tumor knocked out her sensory nerves.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
10. They can't radiate the same area again,
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 02:06 AM
Jul 2017

But you can have radiation to a different part of the body.

Different people react differently to radiation - and it may depend on what kind of cancer/what the dosage level is. All I had was a slight darkening of the skin. No fatigue, no radiation burns, etc.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
18. "Surviving the Treatments"
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 01:59 PM
Jul 2017

Major reason I refused chemo. Every fiber of my being stood up and screamed NO!!! so I listened, as I usually do.

Interesting fact...I asked the doc "if I get cancer in another part of my body, is it still considered breast cancer" and he said yes.

And the opposite issue...my mother did not technically die from her massive lung cancer, her death certificate says she died from pneumonia., which of course was the result of the cancer.

which makes me wonder about cancer statistics.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
19. Wondered about the stats.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 02:05 PM
Jul 2017

Lost both SIL's in 2015 with Cancer,and on both Death Cert's listed pneumonia. And yes the Chemo was nasty for these two Girls. I mentioned previously about their brother ripping out the tubes and demanded to be released and go home. Which happened. This was after being 14 months of remission.

Rhiannon12866

(206,332 posts)
11. He said he had melanoma that had spread to his liver and brain
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 04:09 AM
Jul 2017

This article explains the kind of treatment he had and he is thankfully cancer free. His father and three siblings died young of pancreatic cancer, so he has had regular checkups for years...

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/remarkable-cancer-treatment-helped-jimmy-carter-combat-brain/story?id=37467459

Just months after finding out he had metastatic cancer, former President Jimmy Carter announced this weekend that his doctors have said he no longer needs cancer treatment thanks in part to a groundbreaking new kind of medication that trains the immune system to fight cancer tumors.

Carter announced in August that he had melanoma that had spread to his liver and brain. He underwent surgery, radiation therapy and a new kind of cancer treatment called immunotherapy to fight the disease.

Speaking at his church this weekend, Carter announced that his doctors are stopping his immunotherapy treatment called pembrolizumab after they saw no signs of tumors over a period of three months. While he has no evidence of the disease, doctors will monitor Carter closely to see if the cancer reoccurs, a representative for the former president said.

"President Carter said today he did not need any more treatments, which he had August 2015 through February 2016, but will continue scans and resume treatment if necessary," a spokeswoman for the Carter Center told ABC News in an email.

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