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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 09:13 AM Jul 2017

What If Trump Fires Mueller/Pardons All The Principals & GOP Just Stands By Him?

It is possible that Trump could fire the investigators, Sessions and pardon all the people involved in Russiagate. And the GOP could also just stay silent or support him. Then where is the country were this kind of situation develop.

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What If Trump Fires Mueller/Pardons All The Principals & GOP Just Stands By Him? (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Jul 2017 OP
Then 2018 will be a referendum on if American Democracy continues. Chasstev365 Jul 2017 #1
If he does manage to do that dhol82 Jul 2017 #5
This Cosmocat Jul 2017 #16
By 2018 Kobach will have finished his Great Voter Purge LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2017 #20
There would be an immediate shortage of pitchforks and torches and the run on rzemanfl Jul 2017 #2
+1000! dchill Jul 2017 #3
You took the words right out of my fingertips Sanity Claws Jul 2017 #10
Then I'm going to blame your fingertips for my leaving the last e off of immediate. rzemanfl Jul 2017 #12
Then he still has to deal with Schneiderman. The_jackalope Jul 2017 #4
That would be foolish as Sessions will likely have put together no_hypocrisy Jul 2017 #6
That's intriguing C_U_L8R Jul 2017 #8
We'd be a dictatorship SHRED Jul 2017 #7
they show no sign of holding him to any standards at all. it would not surprise me. spanone Jul 2017 #9
I don't think all, of the GOP will stand by him.. Stuart G Jul 2017 #11
Does not matter...NYAG can proceed w/RICO at state level & POTUS can't pardon state stuff. MedusaX Jul 2017 #13
RICO is a federal statute Sanity Claws Jul 2017 #15
If a state AG needs 12 votes to convict Trump, he/she will never find such a jury. Hoyt Jul 2017 #17
Trump cannot fire Mueller. yallerdawg Jul 2017 #14
Then basically we're screwed CanonRay Jul 2017 #18
You mean, what if nothing changes? nikibatts Jul 2017 #19
20. By 2018 Kobach will have finished his Great Voter Purge
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 12:28 PM
Jul 2017

and only Republicans will be allowed to vote.

Make America White Again!

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
2. There would be an immediate shortage of pitchforks and torches and the run on
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 09:17 AM
Jul 2017

tar and feathers would threaten road work and the pillow industry.

Sanity Claws

(21,847 posts)
10. You took the words right out of my fingertips
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 09:24 AM
Jul 2017

The GOP already think their constituent meetings are tough to handle. Wait till they see what follows that.

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
4. Then he still has to deal with Schneiderman.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 09:18 AM
Jul 2017

But firing Rosenstein and then Mueller would trigger a massive crisis well before that. Much worse than 1974.

no_hypocrisy

(46,088 posts)
6. That would be foolish as Sessions will likely have put together
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 09:19 AM
Jul 2017

his own dossier on Trump to "leak" to the media.

You don't fool with Southern Boys!

C_U_L8R

(45,001 posts)
8. That's intriguing
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 09:22 AM
Jul 2017

Does the AG have any power to go after Trump (besides leaking and whistleblowing)?

Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
11. I don't think all, of the GOP will stand by him..
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 09:25 AM
Jul 2017

Most will, but some won't. Why do I say this?..If/when that happens, there will be an uproar beyond what we have seen...and some in the elephant party will not go along..Why?...because that action is wrong...totally wrong.

This bill to take down the ACA was wrong. If was hurtful and kills. Similarly, firing Mueller is also dangerous and awful...So, let's see, will Senator Flake support this ? After Drumpf has gone after Flake?..

There are others, who will not stand by the Con if/when this happens. Not many, but some in the GOP know the truth about Drumpf...Because the truth is so obvious and clear...That is what I believe...

MedusaX

(1,129 posts)
13. Does not matter...NYAG can proceed w/RICO at state level & POTUS can't pardon state stuff.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 09:33 AM
Jul 2017

Plus.. no Presidential immunity from prosecution for crimes committed before inauguration
And RICO would have lots of 'before' acts....

Sanity Claws

(21,847 posts)
15. RICO is a federal statute
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 10:07 AM
Jul 2017

And Trump could be pardoned by that.
My guess is that NYAG will pursue a state law action.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
17. If a state AG needs 12 votes to convict Trump, he/she will never find such a jury.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 10:19 AM
Jul 2017

Too many ignorant white wingers in this country to imagine a jury that won't have at least one deplorable on the panel who'll stand up for Trump, the great white hope.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
14. Trump cannot fire Mueller.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 09:39 AM
Jul 2017

A replacement for Sessions would have to get through Senate confirmation - and you can be firing would be a major issue!

Nixon tried this end around similarly - and it was another nail in his impending impeachment.

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