OJ has no self awareness.

[madaboutharry]

Listening to him is making me cringe.


He seems to exist in a world of deep denial. He hasn't changed in any way since the night he murdered Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman.

[SoCalMusicLover]

1. DENIAL

You said it all with that 1 word.

Nothing he ever does is wrong.

[LuvLoogie]

2. He sounds like an addict. Such a bullshitter. A teenage kid trying to explain his missing homework.

[MurderMittenLiberal]

3. I Knowwww

Hearing him use the expression "Get out of Jail Free Card" made me want to throw up. Him saying he has lived a life "free of conflict" was disgusting as well.

[heaven05]

4. he was found

NOT GUILTY of murder. Period.

[MurderMittenLiberal]

5. Really?

He was found not guilty in the criminal trial but he was indeed found guilty of murder in the civil trial. Regardless, if you don't think he committed the murders you're delusional.

[heaven05]

12. you are entitled to believe

any BS that you please, still, so far, a free speech/opinion country.

[cwydro]

7. But he did it.

And everyone knows it.

Including him.

[heaven05]

10. so far, still a free country

to believe what you please....period....end of discussion with you.

[cwydro]

13. Lol.

You really think he's innocent of murder?

That's funny.

[brush]

27. Sorry, but whether he did the murder or not, he was found not guilty and that case...

should have no bearing on his being sentenced to 33 years for what is normally a fine and probation/1 year.

The parole hearing is on that case, not the previous one.

[cwydro]

29. I agree with you there. Completely.

But it doesn't change my opinion of him.

[brush]

31. You have that right. But again, the parole hearing is not on that case.

[cwydro]

34. Agreed.

But the OP refers to the murder.

Hence the discussion.

Lordie me.

[Igel]

48. It's been said many times.

"Not guilty" is a legal verdict. There can be a lack of evidence, there can be a biased jury.

The moral verdict people often confuse with it, especially when they're on the defendant's side, is "innocent." Juries don't find people innocent. They find them guilty, or failing that, they find them "not guilty". Just meaning that the jury didn't find the person guilty. It says nothing about innocence. In very, very rare cases a judge will speak from the bench to say that the person was innocent--that the evidence was so circumstantial in favor of conviction, and so overwhelmingly against conviction, that the suit shouldn't have been brought and the suspicion engendered by the charges and the trial are utterly baseless and to maintain them after the trial would be injustice itself. Very rarely. But only after the legal "not guilty" verdict is back, lest he bias the jury.

Note that many white police officers are found "not guilty" when it's clearly documented by witnesses and video that they killed a person. Zimmerman clearly killed Martin. "Not guilty."

There's a world of difference between the legal and the moral judgments. "Not guilty" =/= "innocent."

Otherwise, we're left with utterances like, "Zimmerman was found NOT GUILTY of murder. Period."

Yeah, that doesn't sit well. But it's as true as any other "not guilty" verdict is. Sometimes the person that's not guilty is also innocent; sometimes not. Different question.

[Sunsky]

59. Exactly

[MurrayDelph]

60. That is a fact

But it doesn't mean he didn't do it.

[Buffalohaole]

6. And you know that he murdered them how?

He was acquitted.....

And how many parole hearings have you been a party to?

[cwydro]

8. So who did it?

He was a known abuser.

He had a brilliant lawyer, and the prosecution effed up in every way.

He did it and we all know that.

[Buffalohaole]

14. I don't know.

I wasn't a member of the jury.

But, they obviously didn't think that there was enough evidence to find him guilty.

"We all"....nope

[cwydro]

20. Lol.

Keep on believin'.

[Buffalohaole]

23. Keep on believing what?

That he was found not guilty....Do you hate the American justice system?

[cwydro]

24. I think the American justice system favors the rich and the famous.

So yeah, I'm not wild about it.

[leftynyc]

41. I believe in it, however,

since it's run by humans, who are by definition flawed, it makes mistakes. It made one with him. He's a murderer.

[whathehell]

54. He lost the civil case for "wrongful death".

filed by the parents of Ron Goldman .

[Buffalohaole]

62. And what does that mean?

absolutely nothing...

[whathehell]

63. LOL

In your DREAMS it means nothing!....It virtually bankrupted him, for one thing and showed that there was ANOTHER verdict regarding his culpability for those crimes.

[kcr]

64. Well then neither does the acquittal

by that logic.

[LanternWaste]

36. Simple faith is yet still faith

Simple faith (aka,"keep on believin'" ) is yet still faith, regardless of whether it's faith in, or faith against.

[cwydro]

38. True dat.

No argument there.

[Buffalohaole]

42. Curious where you received your law degree from...

nt

[cwydro]

46. Wait. What?

You mean the TOS now requires us to have a law degree to post here?

Oh drat.

[Buffalohaole]

49. Just wondering where your expertise comes from..

that is all

[cwydro]

50. Not sure what your problem with me is.

Numerous other posters saying the same thing.

I don't need "expertise" to have an opinion. This is a discussion board.

[Buffalohaole]

51. okay....

but, because other posters say the same thing...your opinion is valid?

Your opinion means nothing, cause he was found not guilty. Get over it.

[cwydro]

53. Neither does yours lol.

He murdered his wife and an innocent bystander.

Their blood found all over his car and clothing.

Read up.

Have a nice day now, ya hear?

[Buffalohaole]

55. PAROLED

nt

[cwydro]

56. Good. He shouldn't have been in prison this long for the robbery.

Glad to hear it.

[Buffalohaole]

57. Hey...

truce.....

[cwydro]

58. Of course.

A lot of posters hold grudges here. I'm not one of them.

Cheers.

[Buffalohaole]

61. Yeah

[MurderMittenLiberal]

9. Ummmm

"Detectives went to Simpson's Rockingham estate to inform him that his ex-wife had been murdered. In the back of his home, they found some blood scattered all over on a white Ford Bronco.[citation needed] Detective Mark Fuhrman climbed over an external wall and unlocked the gate to allow the other three detectives to enter in with him. The detectives argued that they entered without a search warrant because of exigent circumstances—specifically, in this case, out of fear that Simpson might have been injured also. Simpson was not present when the detectives arrived early that morning; he had taken a flight to Chicago late the previous night. Detectives briefly interviewed Kato Kaelin, who was staying in Simpson's guest house. In a walk-around of the premises, Fuhrman discovered a second bloody glove; it was later determined to be the match of the glove found at the murder scene. Through DNA testing, the blood on this one was determined to have come from both victims. This, together with other evidence collected at both scenes, was determined to be probable cause to issue an arrest warrant for Simpson."

-OJ SIMPSON TRIAL WIKI


Call me crazy for thinking blood all over his car as well as a pair of blood soaked gloves in his yard which was positively ID as the victims blood makes him seem guilty.
Do you agree that the killers of Emmet Till deserved to walk free because the court ruled a mistrial? Juries make mistakes, Justice is not always served.

[cwydro]

16. Thank you.

Incredible to me that anyone thinks he didn't murder two people in cold blood.

[brush]

28. Get a grip. That's not the crime the parole hearing is about.

[MurderMittenLiberal]

30. No but,

That is what we are talking about right now.

[cwydro]

32. So?

So what?

This is DU and many are discussing OJ and the previous crime.

[Buffalohaole]

44. Exactly.

I'm shaking my head at the responses of people on this forum....

[heaven05]

17. Emmet Till?????????

that is low, low, low. But as I said, believe what you must to stay in YOUR comfort zone.

[MineralMan]

18. That's the second time you've asked someone whether

that person had been in a parole hearing. Have you? If so, please share your experience.

As for Simpson's acquittal, a lot of us watched that trial and have formed an opinion about him. Right now, though, this parole hearing is not about that, is it?

[Buffalohaole]

21. I've been a party to 2 parole hearings.

People are nervous as all hell. When people are nervous, they tend to babble.

No, this parole hearing isn't about that ...so why are so many bringing it up???????

[MineralMan]

22. It is impossible for people to separate

the two situations, and they are not required to. The parole board, on the other hand, does have to make that distinction. DU is not a parole board hearing. People here are free to discuss any aspect of O.J. Simpson's life, if they wish.

Now, at those 2 parole hearings, were you the potential parolee, a parole board member, an attorney, or just an observer? I think that would be a pertinent thing to know, and you did ask another person if they were sitting in the inmate's chair.

[cwydro]

25. Thank you MM.

Wonder if you'll get an answer...

[Buffalohaole]

33. I answered....

don't be so smug

[cwydro]

39. Good on ya!

[Buffalohaole]

40. Thank you

What else ya got?

[cwydro]

43. Nothing at all.

We simply disagree on this.

I think he's a murderer.

That said, I agree with you that he should get parole. His sentence was too harsh for this particular crime.

[Buffalohaole]

45. Thank you.

nt

[Buffalohaole]

26. I have the utmost respect for you....I enjoy your posts...but

I was a County Probation Officer and an intern for the Federal Probation Department. Been there, done that....

I understand that DU is an internet forum...but it does reflect the thought processes of American people. Do you think that it would be fair if the Parole Board brought his other charges into the equation?

[MurderMittenLiberal]

35. No it wouldn't

But like you said DU is an internet forum, not a parole hearing so we can bring up the fact that OJ should stay in jail just because of how shiny his head is if we wanted to.

[Buffalohaole]

37. Oh, okay....

But his victim is now testifying on his behalf....it's gonna be interesting....

[Bleacher Creature]

11. Isn't that one of the key traits of a sociopath? NT

[lindysalsagal]

15. The simpson trial jururs were held hostage to an abusive system. They voted to go home.

The judge owns this acquittal for not insisting on a time limit for the defence. They abused the jurors into calling it. The public circus made it into a defence of all black people against the system. For centuries black people were at the mercy of a white system. The jurors were burdened with all of that and their families expected them to acquit. They had been the target of public protests for so long, it was the only way they could return to their loved ones.

That trial was a travesty.

[cwydro]

19. Spot on. nt

[Gothmog]

47. Most sociopaths lack social awareness

[Buffalohaole]

52. Especially when they have been incarcerated for a long period of time

nt