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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGore: Progressive ideas 'gaining ground' among Democrats
TheHill:
"I do think progressive viewpoints are gaining ground in the Democratic Party Ive supported single-payer for 15 years now, and we are seeing a big change across the board," Gore said Thursday during a SiriusXM/Variety Magazine town hall.
"If you look at state government and state politics and local politics, the change is more pronounced there.
Gore doubled down this week on the need for single-payer healthcare amid the Senate Republicans' trouble coalescing around a plan to repeal and replace ObamaCare. He had previously signaled support for the policy in 2002 but didn't include it in his 2000 presidential platform.
Over the past few months, Democrats have been more open to the single-payer approach thats long been pushed by the more progressive pockets of the party. Single-payer healthcare was one of the main campaign platforms for Sen. Bernie Sanders's (I-Vt.) Democratic presidential bid in 2016, and his allies continue to tout it.
<more> http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/342970-gore-progressive-ideas-gaining-ground-among-democrats
I hope that this is the direction of the Dem Party. We will win more and more local/state/federal seats if we adopted and promote progressive/liberal FDR-like policies.
Time to embrace our heritage of being 'the party of the people'.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)the odds are very likely he would NOT have gotten single payer.
Might not have even tried, because Al knows how the system works and how long it takes to get there.
Most democrats I know support single payer, which has little to do with whether or not it is politically feasible right now.
Oh wait, right there in the copy/paste
And yet the argument I heard a lot was how a certain someone didnt support this, oh wait, I cant talk about that.
Shit. I dont know what to do anymore.
I know, demand your candidate support this or threaten to not vote or vote 3rd party, lets see if that works THIS TIME.
Trial_By_Fire
(624 posts)...now and not later.
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)single payer or medicare , medicaid is not a progressive issue nor is it a left or right or if some want to refer hard right issue . This conversation has been around for over 70 years ......... How do you think Medicare and Medicaid came about ? It is the result of a compromise when congress would not agree to universal , Yes Johnson signed medicare / medicaid into law with Truman at the table .
"This past July 30, we celebrated the 49th anniversary of Medicare and Medicaid. Readers of this column will recall it was on that date in 1965 when President Lyndon Baines Johnson formally signed these two programs into law in Independence, Missouri, as former president Harry S. Truman and his steadfast wife, Bess, looked on with pride. As LBJ handed Give Em Hell Harry and Bess the pens he used to affix his signature to the document, the President proclaimed Mr. Truman as the real daddy of Medicare.
"Harry S Truman, bw half-length photo portrait, facing front, 1945" by Edmonston Studio - The Library of Congress, http://loc.gov. Licensed under Public domain via Wikimedia Commons -
President Harry S. Truman proposed a universal health care program in 1945. Photo by Edmonston Studio The Library of Congress
Today marks the reason why LBJ bestowed such presidential credit to Harry Truman.
Back in 1945 a mere seven months into a presidency he inherited from Franklin D. Roosevelt Truman proposed a universal national health insurance program. In his remarks to Congress, he declared, Millions of our citizens do not now have a full measure of opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health. Millions do not now have protection or security against the economic effects of sickness. The time has arrived for action to help them attain that opportunity and that protection.
"69 years ago, President Truman outlined five critical goals of national health. "
"His measured and careful description of the plan merits quoting:
Under the plan I suggest, our people would continue to get medical and hospital services just as they do now on the basis of their own voluntary decisions and choices. Our doctors and hospitals would continue to deal with disease with the same professional freedom as now. There would, however, be this all-important difference: whether or not patients get the services they need would not depend on how much they can afford to pay at the time
None of this is really new. The American people are the most insurance-minded people in the world. They will not be frightened off from health insurance because some people have misnamed it socialized medicine. I repeat what I am recommending is not socialized medicine. Socialized medicine means that all doctors work as employees of government. The American people want no such system. No such system is here proposed.
The rest of article http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/november-19-1945-harry-truman-calls-national-health-insurance-program/
so yeah I am glad Sanders is kept this subject alive ..... Yes I voted Gore in 2000, if anyone is going to try a second run at presidency he may be in god position
leftstreet
(36,107 posts)Even Nixon wanted a Guaranteed Basic Income
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)Trial_By_Fire
(624 posts)...it appears that today only progressives/liberals embrace single-payer/Medicare for All...
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)All parties should be for it . I like the last part I copied its Trumans own words especially the part about doctors and government .
Wonder what special interests have held this back over the years ........
Yes , you are correct it seems today only progressives are for medicare for all or universal . If I remember correctly the start of bringing up and talking about universal healthcare did start with FDR and Truman continued .
Me.
(35,454 posts)And a very relevant history lesson.
WoonTars
(694 posts)...
Trial_By_Fire
(624 posts)"The middle of the road (centrists) is for yellow lines and dead armadillos" - Jim Hightower
And, just because I think it is a great quote:
"The opposite for courage is not cowardice, it is conformity. Even a dead fish can go with the flow". Jim Hightower
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)when they killed him with the same arguments that they used against Hillary and all other democrats.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Trial_By_Fire
(624 posts)Seems you are making a baseless claim and a personal attack against me.
I am a progressive/liberal/FDR Dem - not 'so called left'.
Not cool...
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)i have been seeing a strange resurgence of Gore threads, in a way i find ironic.
not cool to be so sensitive either.
WoonTars
(694 posts)Perhaps you're the one being 'so sensitive'....
H2O Man
(73,537 posts)I've posted information from Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.'s "Journals" here several times over the years. It wasn't the "so-called left" that did harm to Gore in 2000. It was the establishment Democrats, who believed that four years of Bush would be no big thing.
WoonTars
(694 posts)....and picked Joe Fucking Lieberman as his running mate.
It had fuck all to with the "left"...
leftstreet
(36,107 posts)He pivoted left (where he probably always wanted to run) too, too late
You're right tho. His choice to do that meant he endured the same scorn from the leftier side of the party
Goes around...
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)I'd trust them more if they weren't such liars
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)that he might be useful to a Senator who ran 16 years behind him, he's all of a sudden a super credible source and no longer has Corporations/Establishment same-as-the-Republicans cooties.
Pathetic really
WoonTars
(694 posts)...
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)That there wasn't oceans of difference between them
WoonTars
(694 posts)I know Nader and his nutcase followers said something similar, but he's not "on the left"..
Trial_By_Fire
(624 posts)Some here have only one thing to talk about and cannot back up
posts with citations...
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)An Independent is a known spoiler. This is just common knowledge. Nader ran against Gore and Bush. And Nader lied about Gore.
No need to pat yourself on the back because people aren't going to run down "quotes" about an entire election.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)When all of us knew that's what the Nader campaign was doing?
BannonsLiver
(16,370 posts)I lived it and remember vividly having conversations with people during that campaign about it.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)JI7
(89,249 posts)So the non partisan types who can go either way thought it would be ok to vote bush since it's time for a change in party while getting someone who isn't so different.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)neoliberal third way names .
This irony is really really thick!
WoonTars
(694 posts)R B Garr
(16,950 posts)which works both ways. It seems to be okay to label but not okay the other way.
pirateshipdude
(967 posts)I think this whole Op to prove some point is odd.
H2O Man
(73,537 posts)ornotna
(10,800 posts)I can get behind what he's saying.
Trial_By_Fire
(624 posts)Gore spoke of how 'progressive viewpoints are gaining ground in the Democratic Party'.
Just a reminder - progressive values and issues are backed by a majority of Americans... do your own internet search...
George II
(67,782 posts)...feels that "single payer" is best but most admit that it's impractical to implement at this time.
As to your last point, if the Democratic Party candidates have been losing to opposing candidates who to the right of them, how can we win more local/state/federal seats if we adopt policies that are even further left?
FDR won the Presidency 85 years ago in completely different times and under unprecedented economic and global conditions. As much as I consider him one of the greatest presidents we ever had, I seriously doubt that he'd be able to get elected today.